1. RE: New to the NET with Euphoria from a dialup on a 233mhz laptop
Euman,
It seems to be working fine. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished
product.
Virtual B
euman at bellsouth.net wrote:
> Im back up for a little while if any one wants to give it a try
>
> Mind you its slow a sin but Im only using this to test if I have
> Euphoria
> setup correct to run from a server. Then Ill use it to test my pages
> when I ever get them finished. I'll write most of the code in Euphoria!
>
> Here's the address:
> http://euman.dynserv.net/
>
>
> Euman
> euman at bellsouth.net
>
> 5 2 1 - 1 - n - 5 The Doors
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <euman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 12:18 AM
> Subject: New to the NET with Euphoria from a dialup on a 233mhz laptop
>
>
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I setup a server on my laptop and stuck a few little pages on there
> > one of these is the libcgi demo by Buddy Hyllberg just to test this
> > thing out some. Im using a dial-up connection so it will be pretty slow.
> > I will be online tonight for a couple more hours (its 12:15 a est)
> > and back on tommorrow around 1:00 pm est. Would someone let
> > me know if I have this setup correctly?
> >
> > Here's the address:
> > http://euman.dynserv.net/
> >
> > Euman
> > euman at bellsouth.net
> >
> > 5 2 1 - 1 - n - 5 The Doors
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
2. RE: New to the NET with Euphoria from a dialup on a 233mhz laptop
Hi Euman,
It worked here and as quick as most other web servers.
Now all we need a web page provider who will load Euphoria for
serving pages.
Ray
euman at bellsouth.net wrote:
> Im "OFF" line at 2:13 pm est http://euman.dynserv.net/
>
> Thanks to everyone who participated in the experiment.
> I have to go shopping now because my Wife say's so...
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Euman
> euman at bellsouth.net
>
>
Ray Smith
http://rays-web.com
3. RE: New to the NET with Euphoria from a dialup on a 233mhz laptop
Hi Euman,
Personally I'm not really interested in hosting web sites with
Euphoria .... but for the people who are there are only two ways it
can be achieved:
1. by a current Euphoria user who has access to a web server,
2. form a group of Euphoria users who are willing to pay for a
hosting service and put a proposal together and ask as many web
hosting companies as possible to load Euphoria.
> Maybe you would give me some ideas
> to present to "BTI"..?
Euphoria can be used for any purpose that any other CGI program can
be used for ... ie anything.
To be really usefull it would be nice if someone with the Euphoria
source could look at creating a Euphoria module for the Apache web
server.
That way it would improve performance and let the web hosting world
know that Euphoria is a series product. It would also make Euphoria
easier to load on any web server.
Now the big question ....
Is your aim to promote Euphoria as a web scripting technology or to
produce flexible, powerful web sites?
If your interested in web development you would be better off looking
at some standard web scripting technologies???
I've been playing with PHP (www.php.net) as a HTML pre-processor -
this isn't it's strength but works great for me.
If your a windows fan ASP is similar to PHP.
As an example PHP is cross platform to more OS's than you can count
without taking your socks off and can access all popular databases
(MS SQL, Oracle, ODBC, Sybase, MySQL, PostgreSQL, etc)
it's free!
is open source,
has a huge user base,
most web hosts support php,
has great documentation,
is easy to use
etc etc etc
It would be difficult for Euphoris to ever compete with this.
Just the simple(?) task of accessing all those databases is probably
over a years worth of work for one person (if they had access to all
the databases!).
Back to my question ... if your looking to promote Euphoria as a web
technology than that's great ... otherwise it is a long road to walk.
As a last thought I wonder how difficult it would be to add PHP
support to Euphoria??? That way we could add dynamic scripting to
Euphoria and also gain a huge number of libraries!!
Ray Smith
http://rays-web.com
4. RE: New to the NET with Euphoria from a dialup on a 233mhz laptop
Hi Rob,
So all you need is a web provider that gives you a login account
as well?
I know alot of the "cheaper" hosts don't allow you to run executables
but do allow you to run specific scripting languages usually for
an increase in fees.
Ray Smith
Robert Craig wrote:
> There seems to be a vague notion out there
> that to use Euphoria for CGI you must get
> a Web host to agree to install Euphoria
> on their system, or you must get their
> permission before you can use it.
>
> In my case, RapidEuphoria.com is hosted
> on some Web host's FreeBSD machine. It's not my machine.
> I have set up various Euphoria programs for
> CGI and for other things. I did not ask my Web host
> to install anything, nor did I ask their permission
> to run Euphoria. For CGI, I can run interpreted Euphoria programs
> using:
> #!./exu
> on the top line of my program. I can run bound Euphoria
> programs, and I can run translated-to-C and compiled
> Euphoria programs. All I do for CGI is put the Euphoria program
> into my cgi-bin directory, and set the permissions
> correctly. It's also convenient to have exu in there.
> If a Web host will let you run a C program,
> then they shouldn't care if you run a Euphoria program.
> After all, the Euphoria interpreter *is* a C program.
> Your code is just data for the interpreter.
>
> I've now written Perl programs, C programs and Euphoria
> programs for CGI. There's no comparison in terms
> of ease of development. With C my Web host doesn't
> allow any core files to be dumped, so there are 0 diagnostics
> when the C CGI program fails. The same is true with Perl.
> With Euphoria, I get a full ex.err file left in cgi-bin, and
> it's usually very easy to see what went wrong and to correct it.
> I can also turn on profiling and look at the ex.pro file.
> I also have a cron job that runs every hour and it's written
> in Euphoria. If something goes wrong, it leaves an ex.err
> file, and I get the Euphoria error diagnostics that normally
> would appear on the screen, e-mailed to me by the system.
> When it was written in C, I'd get "core dump" e-mailed to me,
> and then there was no core file to be found.
>
> Regards,
> Rob Craig
> Rapid Deployment Software
> http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
>
>
Ray Smith
http://rays-web.com
