1. ex.err not being created

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After trying to RUN a file from within MEditor and having an error detected, an
alert pops up "unable to open file: <source-dir>\ex.err".  A search of the drive
indicates there is no ex.err file to be found, except for a couple of instances
in the Demos directory.  The program run correctly from a DOS prompt.  Is this an
MEditor problem or a Euphoria problem being fed through MEditor?

Also, the mailing list search tool on the web site desperately needs Boolean
capability.  Searching for "unable to open file ex.err" brings up every entry
with any one of the search words in it, which is nearly every entry in the
database.  This is not acceptible.  There is no Boolean instruction to search for
an exact phrase.  Please, whoever wrote the search routine, consider adding a
more advanced search strategy.  Thanks.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>After trying to RUN a file from within MEditor and 
having an error detected, an alert pops up "unable to open file: 
&lt;source-dir&gt;\ex.err".&nbsp; A search of the drive indicates there is no 
ex.err file to be found, except for a couple of instances in the Demos 
directory.&nbsp; The program run correctly from a DOS prompt.&nbsp; Is this an 
MEditor problem or a Euphoria problem being fed through MEditor?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also, the mailing list search tool on the web site 
desperately needs Boolean capability.&nbsp; Searching for "unable to open file 
ex.err" brings up every entry with any one of the search words in it, which is 
nearly every entry in the database.&nbsp; This is not acceptible.&nbsp; There is
no Boolean instruction to search for an exact phrase.&nbsp; Please,&nbsp;whoever
wrote the search routine, consider adding a more advanced search strategy.&nbsp;
Thanks.</FONT></DIV>

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2. Re: ex.err not being created

> After trying to RUN a file from within MEditor and having an error
detected, an alert pops up "unable to
> open file: <source-dir>\ex.err".  A search of the drive indicates there is
no ex.err file to be found, except
> for a couple of instances in the Demos directory.  The program run
correctly from a DOS prompt.  Is
> this an MEditor problem or a Euphoria problem being fed through MEditor?

Sometimes a program will quit using abort(x). If x is anything other than 0,
it is seen as an error. However, callling abort(x) will not generate an
ex.err file. If this is a program you wrote, check this first. Try using an
old Win32Lib trick by calling abort(1/0) causing a div. by zero and there by
generating an ex.err file.

> Also, the mailing list search tool on the web site desperately needs
Boolean capability.  Searching for
> "unable to open file ex.err" brings up every entry with any one of the
search words in it, which is nearly
> every entry in the database.  This is not acceptible.  There is no Boolean
instruction to search for an
> exact phrase.  Please, whoever wrote the search routine, consider adding a
more advanced search strategy.

I believe Robert Craig himself wrote the search engine. I believe someone on
the list was working on a new version, but I haven't heard anything in a
while, maybe that was for the Archive search.

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3. Re: ex.err not being created

Kurt Faasse wrote:

> After trying to RUN a file from within MEditor and having an error
> detected, an alert pops up "unable to open file: <source-dir>\ex.err".
> A search of the drive indicates there is no ex.err file to be found,
> except for a couple of instances in the Demos directory.  The program
> run correctly from a DOS prompt.  Is this an MEditor problem or a
> Euphoria problem being fed through MEditor?

What happens, when you run the same program directly from the windows
explorer, without using MEditor? If you try that, I believe it will
answer the question.

> Also, the mailing list search tool on the web site desperately needs
> Boolean capability.  Searching for "unable to open file ex.err" brings
> up every entry with any one of the search words in it, which is nearly
> every entry in the database.  This is not acceptible.  There is no
> Boolean instruction to search for an exact phrase.  Please, whoever
> wrote the search routine, consider adding a more advanced search
> strategy.  Thanks.

I believe, you are talking about the search tool on the RDS website
rather than that one on the Topica website, right?
Currently, if you search for more than one word on the RDS website,
AFAIK the search is performed by automatically applying a Boolean OR
to all the words.

Rob, I also think it would be very useful, if the user at least had the
choice between applying OR or applying AND. This is my wish for
Christmas. blink
The more the mailing list database grows, the more this becomes
important. Normally its not the problem to find just anything, but to
look for a needle in a haystack.

Regards,
   Juergen

PS: Kurt, please don't send mails containing any HTML to this list, send
    plain text only. Thanks in advance!

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4. Re: ex.err not being created

Kurt Faasse wrote:
> Also, the mailing list search tool on the web site desperately needs 
> Boolean capability.  Searching for "unable to open file ex.err" brings 
> up every entry with any one of the search words in it, which is nearly 
> every entry in the database.  This is not acceptible.  There is no 
> Boolean instruction to search for an exact phrase.  Please, whoever 
> wrote the search routine, consider adding a more advanced search 
> strategy.  Thanks.

It's true that the search matches any message that contains
any of the words you are searching for, but the scoring system
ensures that messages that match all of the words you are
looking for will be displayed at the top, or very near the top
of the list of results. This way you get the best of both worlds.
If no message has all of your search words, you'll see a list
of partial matches, which should be more useful to you
than "No match found. Try again".

Regards,
    Rob Craig
    Rapid Deployment Software
    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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5. Re: ex.err not being created

Kurt Faasse wrote:
>  There is no
> Boolean instruction to search for an exact phrase. 

Sorry, I didn't read your message carefully enough.
As far as phrases are concerned, you don't need
a boolean (like AND or OR), you just need a way
of quoting the phrase. That sounds reasonable.
I'll look into it.

Thanks,
    Rob Craig
    Rapid Deployment Software
    http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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6. Re: ex.err not being created

Yes, quoting the search phrase would be good.  I tried using double quotes
but they were ignored.  Thanks for considering my suggestion.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Craig" <rds at RapidEuphoria.com>
To: <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: Re: ex.err not being created


>
>
> Kurt Faasse wrote:
> >  There is no
> > Boolean instruction to search for an exact phrase.
>
> Sorry, I didn't read your message carefully enough.
> As far as phrases are concerned, you don't need
> a boolean (like AND or OR), you just need a way
> of quoting the phrase. That sounds reasonable.
> I'll look into it.
>
> Thanks,
>     Rob Craig
>     Rapid Deployment Software
>     http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
>
>
>
> TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE!
>
>

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7. Re: ex.err not being created

Thanks Greg, Juergen and Robert for the advice.  The program is a short one
and is actually error free, so it runs from a DOS prompt properly.  When I
run it in MEditor some sort of error is generated but, as you say, no ex.err
results, but MEditor looks for ex.err and reports that it can't be found.
Probably MEditor isn't seeing the program close properly, or perhaps I'm not
returning to system properly but not as an official error.  Probably the
latter.  It was just a little test program so I'll work on something more
substantial and see how that goes.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Juergen Luethje" <j.lue at gmx.de>
To: <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: ex.err not being created


>
>
> Kurt Faasse wrote:
>
> > After trying to RUN a file from within MEditor and having an error
> > detected, an alert pops up "unable to open file: <source-dir>\ex.err".
> > A search of the drive indicates there is no ex.err file to be found,
> > except for a couple of instances in the Demos directory.  The program
> > run correctly from a DOS prompt.  Is this an MEditor problem or a
> > Euphoria problem being fed through MEditor?
>
> What happens, when you run the same program directly from the windows
> explorer, without using MEditor? If you try that, I believe it will
> answer the question.
>
> > Also, the mailing list search tool on the web site desperately needs
> > Boolean capability.  Searching for "unable to open file ex.err" brings
> > up every entry with any one of the search words in it, which is nearly
> > every entry in the database.  This is not acceptible.  There is no
> > Boolean instruction to search for an exact phrase.  Please, whoever
> > wrote the search routine, consider adding a more advanced search
> > strategy.  Thanks.
>
> I believe, you are talking about the search tool on the RDS website
> rather than that one on the Topica website, right?
> Currently, if you search for more than one word on the RDS website,
> AFAIK the search is performed by automatically applying a Boolean OR
> to all the words.
>
> Rob, I also think it would be very useful, if the user at least had the
> choice between applying OR or applying AND. This is my wish for
> Christmas. blink
> The more the mailing list database grows, the more this becomes
> important. Normally its not the problem to find just anything, but to
> look for a needle in a haystack.
>
> Regards,
>    Juergen
>
> PS: Kurt, please don't send mails containing any HTML to this list, send
>     plain text only. Thanks in advance!
>
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