1. OOPS and FOO ?
Hi Folks
Im learning UE pretty good I think but
OOPs must be a general term for what ?
Help me out, at first I figured object oreinted but
EU as far as I know isn't object oreinted.
FOO must be a genereal term for ?
I havent tried to guess that one yet.
Then I pondered and decided that maybe they are terms
which carryed over from C or C++.
Those are probably stupid questions but an inquiring
mind wants to know.
Thanks
Gene
2. Re: OOPS and FOO ?
- Posted by Derek Parnell <dparnell at BIGPOND.NET.AU>
Aug 31, 2000
-
Last edited Sep 01, 2000
OOP = Object Oriented Programming
FOO is the first syllable of FOOBAR. This word has been used for years in
programming examples to represent a couple of variables. As in ...
integer FOO, BAR
The origin of FOOBAR (or FUBAR) has had many theories. The one below is my
favorite.
-------------------
Mr. Wolfstone is a student of language and offers the following explanation
of the battlefield slang, fubar, from the popular film, Saving Private Ryan.
Fubar is slang (mangled German) for the word "Furchtbar" which means
terrible or horrible -- Think of it as the opposite of "Wunderbar."
Furcht means fear, literally translated, and the "bar" is added to make it
an adverb or noun, as the case may be. Notice that "Wunderbar" translates
literally into wonderful. By contrast, you should treat Furchtbar as an
idiom and translate it to mean terrible or horrible.
By the time our troops landed at Omaha Beach, D-Day (June 6, 1944), the term
fubar had undergone a pejoration. The soldiers in Saving Private Ryan were
probably contemplating the pejorative, anglicized acronym "fubar" which they
would translate as "Fu***d Up Beyond All Recognition."
A more recent example of battlefield slang (although not based on mangling
the enemy's language) is, for instance, the word "Snafu." Snafu is an
acronym for the battlefield expression "Situation Normal All Fu***d Up."
Snafu was widely used in 'Nam and perhaps in earlier wars.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Mannel" <genem2 at GJ.NET>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 10:56 PM
Subject: OOPS and FOO ?
> Hi Folks
>
> Im learning UE pretty good I think but
>
> OOPs must be a general term for what ?
> Help me out, at first I figured object oreinted but
> EU as far as I know isn't object oreinted.
>
> FOO must be a genereal term for ?
> I havent tried to guess that one yet.
>
> Then I pondered and decided that maybe they are terms
> which carryed over from C or C++.
>
>
> Those are probably stupid questions but an inquiring
> mind wants to know.
>
> Thanks
> Gene
3. Re: OOPS and FOO ?
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Gene Mannel wrote:
> Hi Folks
>
> Im learning UE pretty good I think but
>
> OOPs must be a general term for what ?
> Help me out, at first I figured object oriented but
> EU as far as I know isn't object oriented.
Object Oriented Programming - for an entertaining description of OOP and Java,
see http://sepwww.stanford.edu/sep/josman/oop/oop1.htm
Euphoria isn't object oriented, but as far as I'm concerned, that's a Good
Thing (tm) Languages like Java that force you to make _everything_ an object
really get in the way when you're trying to do simple programs.
On the other hand, Objects can be very useful for some jobs, like GUI's, for
example. Euphoria can be forced to do a kind of OOP, by using one of the
several OOP libraries, but the syntax and execution speed is less than ideal.
I think that a few relatively minor additions to Euphoria would make it capable
of real OOP.
> FOO must be a genereal term for ?
> I havent tried to guess that one yet.
FOO, BAR, BLECCH, perhaps a few others, are commonly understood
as "generic" names for variables, functions, or procedures. Meaningless
on their own, but useful as stand-ins for the real thing when illustrating some
programming step. I think their use in a real program would be "frowned upon" :)
--
Regards,
Irv
4. Re: OOPS and FOO ?
Hi
I first heard of "foo" and "bar" from a physics teacher when I was in
highschool in the sixties. At that time the words were used to refer to
variables as they do now in programming. But it was also a bit of a joke -
physicists seem to have a tradition of using absurd or humourous tems in the
middle of very serious and rigid discussions. Other examples would be the
quark and it's properties, ie Truth and Beauty (or Top or Bottom)
When my physics teacher first used foo and bar it gave me a shock - he had a
grin on his face - I'd never seen a teacher do anything absurd up till then.
Bye
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: Derek Parnell <dparnell at BIGPOND.NET.AU>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: OOPS and FOO ?
> OOP = Object Oriented Programming
>
>
> FOO is the first syllable of FOOBAR. This word has been used for years in
> programming examples to represent a couple of variables. As in ...
>
> integer FOO, BAR
>
> The origin of FOOBAR (or FUBAR) has had many theories. The one below is my
> favorite.
>
> -------------------
> Mr. Wolfstone is a student of language and offers the following
explanation
> of the battlefield slang, fubar, from the popular film, Saving Private
Ryan.
>
> Fubar is slang (mangled German) for the word "Furchtbar" which means
> terrible or horrible -- Think of it as the opposite of "Wunderbar."
> Furcht means fear, literally translated, and the "bar" is added to make it
> an adverb or noun, as the case may be. Notice that "Wunderbar" translates
> literally into wonderful. By contrast, you should treat Furchtbar as an
> idiom and translate it to mean terrible or horrible.
>
> By the time our troops landed at Omaha Beach, D-Day (June 6, 1944), the
term
> fubar had undergone a pejoration. The soldiers in Saving Private Ryan
were
> probably contemplating the pejorative, anglicized acronym "fubar" which
they
> would translate as "Fu***d Up Beyond All Recognition."
>
> A more recent example of battlefield slang (although not based on mangling
> the enemy's language) is, for instance, the word "Snafu." Snafu is an
> acronym for the battlefield expression "Situation Normal All Fu***d
Up."
> Snafu was widely used in 'Nam and perhaps in earlier wars.
>
> ----------------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Mannel" <genem2 at GJ.NET>
> To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 10:56 PM
> Subject: OOPS and FOO ?
>
>
> > Hi Folks
> >
> > Im learning UE pretty good I think but
> >
> > OOPs must be a general term for what ?
> > Help me out, at first I figured object oreinted but
> > EU as far as I know isn't object oreinted.
> >
> > FOO must be a genereal term for ?
> > I havent tried to guess that one yet.
> >
> > Then I pondered and decided that maybe they are terms
> > which carryed over from C or C++.
> >
> >
> > Those are probably stupid questions but an inquiring
> > mind wants to know.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Gene
>
5. Re: OOPS and FOO ?
> middle of very serious and rigid discussions. Other examples would be the
> quark and it's properties, ie Truth and Beauty (or Top or Bottom)
So, when someone says, "the truth of the matter," now I know what they're
talkin' about...
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6. Re: OOPS and FOO ?
I appreciate the info along with the history and etc. :)
Thanks folks
Gene
7. Re: OOPS and FOO ?
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Gene Mannel wrote:
> FOO must be a genereal term for ?
Then there was the time i was terribly embarrassed by dyslexia again, when i
tried to
say "If the shoe fits, wear it.".
Kat,
red.
