1. Rip'um!
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'Keep forgetting to mention, I'm using my Dads e-mail program for this, =
my actual name is Thomas.
And in responce to that age e-mail, I'm 15.
It seems my programming days are not numbered....... thank heavens! So, =
I'll still be here.
Now, what I'd really like to know is how all of you people got so good =
at programming. I read A beginners guide to Euphoria and it helped a =
lot. But I only understand the basics. NOTE: I am not looking for a =
"magical solution", none exist, I simply need to know, should I read =
ABGTE until I completely understand or just get more experiance?
Thenk yew very much
goom-bye
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2. Re: Rip'um!
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:56:05 -0700, Paul Kerslake wrote:
>Now, what I'd really like to know is how all of you people got so good at
programming. I read A beginners guide to Euphoria and it helped a lot. But
I only understand the basics. NOTE: I am not looking for a "magical
solution", none exist, I simply need to know, should I read ABGTE until I
completely understand or just get more experiance?
I recommend starting by reading all of the documentation included with the
Euphoria distribution package so that you understand what can be done
without any 3rd party (and mostly 'unstamped') libraries. Go through the
tutorial in the package an look at the examples provided in the package (as
a beginner, I'd stick with DOS programming). I've not looked at ABGTE but
from what I've heard, it is also a great resource for learning Euphoria
programming fundamentals. But the most important part is to use what you
learn. Write small demo-type programs that use the some of the procedures
and functions that Euphoria offers. Download some of the stuff from the
Euphoria archives and try to understand how they work. Tweak the code and
see how your changes affect the programs. I started using Euphoria with a
programming background so I jumped right into Windows programming with
Win32lib. I learned by writing many small programs that each used
different parts of the library (which was also a good way to find bugs in
the library.) When I became comfortable enough with it, I started coding
bigger programs.
I guess everybody learns differently. But for me, the best way to learn
was to dig right in and start writing programs... then learn from my
mistakes. One of the best things about Euphoria is that it usually gives a
very good description of what your errors are (unless you are over 300
lines and don't have the registered version). If you can't figure out your
problem, then you can turn to this very helpful and friendly community on
this mailing list.
How do you get good at programming? As with anything you'd like to get
good at: "practice makes perfect".
Good luck,
Brian
3. Re: Rip'um!
On 9 Aug 2000, at 14:56, Paul Kerslake wrote:
> 'Keep forgetting to mention, I'm using my Dads e-mail program for this, my
> actual name is
> Thomas. And in responce to that age e-mail, I'm 15.
>
> It seems my programming days are not numbered....... thank heavens! So, I'll
> still be
> here.
>
> Now, what I'd really like to know is how all of you people got so good at
> programming. I
> read A beginners guide to Euphoria and it helped a lot. But I only understand
> the basics.
> NOTE: I am not looking for a "magical solution", none exist, I simply need to
> know, should
> I read ABGTE until I completely understand or just get more experiance?
Experience helps with the understanding.
Kat
4. Re: Rip'um!
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, Paul Kerslake wrote:
>
> 'Keep forgetting to mention, I'm using my Dads e-mail program for this, my
> actual name is Thomas.
> And in responce to that age e-mail, I'm 15.
>
> It seems my programming days are not numbered....... thank heavens! So, I'll
> still be here.
>
> Now, what I'd really like to know is how all of you people got so good at
> programming. I read A beginners guide to Euphoria and it helped a lot. But I only
> understand the basics. NOTE: I am not looking for a "magical solution", none
> exist, I simply need to know, should I read ABGTE until I completely understand
> or just get more experiance?
>
> Thenk yew very much
>
> goom-bye
Well you get good at programming by trying new things and doin stuff no one
else has done. I found that reading lots of computer books in general knowledge
helped me out alot. and by the way im only 17.
--
cense
a member of the
ak-software development team
http://www.ak-software.com/
contract work for
Web Velocity IT inc.
http://www.webvelocity.ca/
5. Re: Rip'um!
- Posted by Derek Parnell <dparnell at BIGPOND.NET.AU>
Aug 10, 2000
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Last edited Aug 11, 2000
Brian,
can you let me, or David Cuny know about the bugs found in win32lib - I'll
patch the library. I'm aiming to get a release of win32lib v0.50 out by
end of August. Also, check out the win32lib project at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32libex/
this site has a facility where you can log and track bugs.
cheers,
Derek Parnell
dparnell at bigpond.net.au
Melbourne, Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Broker <bkb at CNW.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, August 10 2000 08:32
Subject: Re: Rip'um!
| On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:56:05 -0700, Paul Kerslake wrote:
|
| >Now, what I'd really like to know is how all of you people got so good
at
| programming. I read A beginners guide to Euphoria and it helped a lot.
But
| I only understand the basics. NOTE: I am not looking for a "magical
| solution", none exist, I simply need to know, should I read ABGTE until
I
| completely understand or just get more experiance?
|
|
| I recommend starting by reading all of the documentation included with
the
| Euphoria distribution package so that you understand what can be done
| without any 3rd party (and mostly 'unstamped') libraries. Go through
the
| tutorial in the package an look at the examples provided in the package
(as
| a beginner, I'd stick with DOS programming). I've not looked at ABGTE
but
| from what I've heard, it is also a great resource for learning Euphoria
| programming fundamentals. But the most important part is to use what
you
| learn. Write small demo-type programs that use the some of the
procedures
| and functions that Euphoria offers. Download some of the stuff from the
| Euphoria archives and try to understand how they work. Tweak the code
and
| see how your changes affect the programs. I started using Euphoria with
a
| programming background so I jumped right into Windows programming with
| Win32lib. I learned by writing many small programs that each used
| different parts of the library (which was also a good way to find bugs
in
| the library.) When I became comfortable enough with it, I started
coding
| bigger programs.
|
| I guess everybody learns differently. But for me, the best way to learn
| was to dig right in and start writing programs... then learn from my
| mistakes. One of the best things about Euphoria is that it usually
gives a
| very good description of what your errors are (unless you are over 300
| lines and don't have the registered version). If you can't figure out
your
| problem, then you can turn to this very helpful and friendly community
on
| this mailing list.
|
| How do you get good at programming? As with anything you'd like to get
| good at: "practice makes perfect".
|
| Good luck,
| Brian
|
6. Re: Rip'um!
>should I read ABGTE until I completely understand or just get more
> >experiance?
When I first found Euphoria on the net (I think it was version 1.5 or
sumthin') I had never heard of ABGTE, heck I didn't even have internet
access at home back then (nor my own computer :( ). Before this I had only
been programming with QB, and some asm (real mode only ofcourse..) and when
I saw the programs in the demo folder I was a bit impressed, so I decided to
learn the language. The hardest thing for me to comprehend (as for any
non-euphorian) was those weird sequences, but reading through the reference
manual a couple of times and looking at the example programs helped a great
deal in making me understand how it worked. Although I'm sure that ABGTE
could've shoretened my way though the learning-curve..
(bottom line: you don't _need_ ABGTE, but if it's available then why don't
use it ?)
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