1. Knew it wouldnt last !!!
- Posted by Wayne Overman <euman at BELLSOUTH.NET> Aug 09, 2000
- 457 views
------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C0022D.4B34A8A0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a comment on the below statements made by simulat=20 I believe that the use of Euphoria should require like all shareware a = usage time limit (just my opinion).=20 RDS has a powerfull tool for programming that doesnt require us to be = proficient at other languages such as C, C++, Assembler to be able to get code up and running faster than conventional ways and = one that requires NO degree to see results. for this, we should be greatfull and support RDS and, any future = improvements that may make our ventures in programming SAFEr, SIMPLEr, SEXYr, FUN I think that's the motto (sorry if it's not = Robert). We will all win in the end if you just register. Registration does make programming in Euphoria easier..(my opinion) Hi Paul It's not so bad - the 300 line limit isn't such a killer. I used = Euphoria for a year and a half without registering. Robert's scheme of = providing a fully functional package with the debugger crippled for big = programs is very generous, and I hope quite effective in generating = sales. It sure worked with me - by the time the 300 line limit became a = real pain I was hooked on the language and had no choice but to buy.=20 The thing to realize is that the 300 line limit is only on the debugger. = You can get around it in a couple of legal ways. a) Don't use the debugger - it's a wonderful convenience, but not = absolutely necessary. b) If you're using an unstamped library, maybe try making a copy with a = new name that has had everything that you don't need discarded. For = example, with the pcsound.e (which I have not examined) you may be only = using a couple of functions out of dozens provided. Take those couple = out of pcsound.e and put them into something like paul.e. Then the = library won't eat up your 300 lines all by itself. c) Make bigger programs by writing and testing smaller modules that fit = in the 300 line limit and then combining them when they are correct into = a bigger program. You still have a bit of a debugging problem at the end = of the process, but you have access to the debugger for creation of all = the modules. Onwards and upwards Bye Martin=20 simulat at intergate.bc.ca ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C0022D.4B34A8A0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Just a comment on the below statements made by = simulat=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I believe that the use of Euphoria should require = like all=20 shareware a usage time limit (just my opinion). </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>RDS has a powerfull tool for programming that doesnt = require=20 us to be proficient at other languages such as C, C++, = Assembler</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>to be able to get code up and running faster than = conventional=20 ways and one that requires NO degree to see results.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>for this, we should be greatfull and support = RDS and, any=20 future improvements that may make our ventures in = programming</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>SAFEr, SIMPLEr, SEXYr, FUN I think that's the motto = (sorry if=20 it's not Robert). We will all win in the end if you just = register.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Registration does make programming in Euphoria = easier..(my=20 opinion)</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Paul</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>It's not so bad - the 300 line limit isn't such a = killer. I=20 used Euphoria for a year and a half without registering. Robert's scheme = of=20 providing a fully functional package with the debugger crippled for big = programs=20 is very generous, and I hope quite effective in generating sales. It = sure worked=20 with me - by the time the 300 line limit became a real pain I was hooked = on the=20 language and had no choice but to buy. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>The thing to realize is that the 300 line limit is = only on the=20 debugger. You can get around it in a couple of legal ways.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>a) Don't use the debugger - it's a wonderful = convenience, but=20 not absolutely necessary.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>b) If you're using an unstamped library, maybe try = making a=20 copy with a new name that has had everything that you don't need = discarded. For=20 example, with the pcsound.e (which I have not examined) you may be only = using a=20 couple of functions out of dozens provided. Take those couple out of = pcsound.e=20 and put them into something like paul.e. Then the library won't eat up = your 300=20 lines all by itself.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>c) Make bigger programs by writing and testing = smaller modules=20 that fit in the 300 line limit and then combining them when they are = correct=20 into a bigger program. You still have a bit of a debugging problem at = the end of=20 the process, but you have access to the debugger for creation of all the = modules.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Onwards and upwards</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bye<BR>Martin </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20 =20 /BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C0022D.4B34A8A0--
2. Re: Knew it wouldnt last !!!
- Posted by "Darth Maul, aka Matt" <Uglyfish87 at HOTMAIL.COM> Aug 21, 2000
- 473 views
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 18:11:52 -0400, Wayne Overman <euman at BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote: >Just a comment on the below statements made by simulat > >I believe that the use of Euphoria should require like all shareware a usage time limit (just my opinion). Just simply outrageous!
3. Re: Knew it wouldnt last !!!
- Posted by simulat <simulat at INTERGATE.BC.CA> Aug 21, 2000
- 474 views
Hey! I didn't say that! Bye Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Darth Maul, aka Matt <Uglyfish87 at HOTMAIL.COM> To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Knew it wouldnt last !!! > On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 18:11:52 -0400, Wayne Overman <euman at BELLSOUTH.NET> > wrote: > > >Just a comment on the below statements made by simulat > > > >I believe that the use of Euphoria should require like all shareware a > usage time limit (just my opinion). > > Just simply outrageous! >