1. Rip'um!
- Posted by Paul Kerslake <paulk at UNISERVE.COM> Aug 09, 2000
- 467 views
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00211.F1668020 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 'Keep forgetting to mention, I'm using my Dads e-mail program for this, = my actual name is Thomas. And in responce to that age e-mail, I'm 15. It seems my programming days are not numbered....... thank heavens! So, = I'll still be here. Now, what I'd really like to know is how all of you people got so good = at programming. I read A beginners guide to Euphoria and it helped a = lot. But I only understand the basics. NOTE: I am not looking for a = "magical solution", none exist, I simply need to know, should I read = ABGTE until I completely understand or just get more experiance? Thenk yew very much goom-bye ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00211.F1668020 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>'Keep forgetting to mention, I'm using = my Dads=20 e-mail program for this, my actual name is Thomas.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And in responce to that age e-mail, I'm = 15.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It seems my programming days are not=20 numbered....... thank heavens! So, I'll still be here.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now, what I'd really like to know is = how all of you=20 people got so good at programming. I read <EM>A beginners guide to = Euphoria=20 </EM>and it helped a lot. But I only understand the basics. NOTE: I am = not=20 looking for a "magical solution", none exist, I simply need to = know, should=20 I read ABGTE until I completely understand or just get more=20 experiance?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thenk yew very much</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>goom-bye</FONT></DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00211.F1668020--
2. Re: Rip'um!
- Posted by Brian Broker <bkb at CNW.COM> Aug 09, 2000
- 453 views
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:56:05 -0700, Paul Kerslake wrote: >Now, what I'd really like to know is how all of you people got so good at programming. I read A beginners guide to Euphoria and it helped a lot. But I only understand the basics. NOTE: I am not looking for a "magical solution", none exist, I simply need to know, should I read ABGTE until I completely understand or just get more experiance? I recommend starting by reading all of the documentation included with the Euphoria distribution package so that you understand what can be done without any 3rd party (and mostly 'unstamped') libraries. Go through the tutorial in the package an look at the examples provided in the package (as a beginner, I'd stick with DOS programming). I've not looked at ABGTE but from what I've heard, it is also a great resource for learning Euphoria programming fundamentals. But the most important part is to use what you learn. Write small demo-type programs that use the some of the procedures and functions that Euphoria offers. Download some of the stuff from the Euphoria archives and try to understand how they work. Tweak the code and see how your changes affect the programs. I started using Euphoria with a programming background so I jumped right into Windows programming with Win32lib. I learned by writing many small programs that each used different parts of the library (which was also a good way to find bugs in the library.) When I became comfortable enough with it, I started coding bigger programs. I guess everybody learns differently. But for me, the best way to learn was to dig right in and start writing programs... then learn from my mistakes. One of the best things about Euphoria is that it usually gives a very good description of what your errors are (unless you are over 300 lines and don't have the registered version). If you can't figure out your problem, then you can turn to this very helpful and friendly community on this mailing list. How do you get good at programming? As with anything you'd like to get good at: "practice makes perfect". Good luck, Brian
3. Re: Rip'um!
- Posted by Kat <gertie at PELL.NET> Aug 09, 2000
- 434 views
On 9 Aug 2000, at 14:56, Paul Kerslake wrote: > 'Keep forgetting to mention, I'm using my Dads e-mail program for this, my > actual name is > Thomas. And in responce to that age e-mail, I'm 15. > > It seems my programming days are not numbered....... thank heavens! So, I'll > still be > here. > > Now, what I'd really like to know is how all of you people got so good at > programming. I > read A beginners guide to Euphoria and it helped a lot. But I only understand > the basics. > NOTE: I am not looking for a "magical solution", none exist, I simply need to > know, should > I read ABGTE until I completely understand or just get more experiance? Experience helps with the understanding. Kat
4. Re: Rip'um!
- Posted by cense <cense at mail.ru> Aug 09, 2000
- 430 views
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, Paul Kerslake wrote: > > 'Keep forgetting to mention, I'm using my Dads e-mail program for this, my > actual name is Thomas. > And in responce to that age e-mail, I'm 15. > > It seems my programming days are not numbered....... thank heavens! So, I'll > still be here. > > Now, what I'd really like to know is how all of you people got so good at > programming. I read A beginners guide to Euphoria and it helped a lot. But I only > understand the basics. NOTE: I am not looking for a "magical solution", none > exist, I simply need to know, should I read ABGTE until I completely understand > or just get more experiance? > > Thenk yew very much > > goom-bye Well you get good at programming by trying new things and doin stuff no one else has done. I found that reading lots of computer books in general knowledge helped me out alot. and by the way im only 17. -- cense a member of the ak-software development team http://www.ak-software.com/ contract work for Web Velocity IT inc. http://www.webvelocity.ca/
5. Re: Rip'um!
- Posted by Derek Parnell <dparnell at BIGPOND.NET.AU> Aug 10, 2000
- 438 views
- Last edited Aug 11, 2000
Brian, can you let me, or David Cuny know about the bugs found in win32lib - I'll patch the library. I'm aiming to get a release of win32lib v0.50 out by end of August. Also, check out the win32lib project at https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32libex/ this site has a facility where you can log and track bugs. cheers, Derek Parnell dparnell at bigpond.net.au Melbourne, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Broker <bkb at CNW.COM> To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU> Sent: Thursday, August 10 2000 08:32 Subject: Re: Rip'um! | On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:56:05 -0700, Paul Kerslake wrote: | | >Now, what I'd really like to know is how all of you people got so good at | programming. I read A beginners guide to Euphoria and it helped a lot. But | I only understand the basics. NOTE: I am not looking for a "magical | solution", none exist, I simply need to know, should I read ABGTE until I | completely understand or just get more experiance? | | | I recommend starting by reading all of the documentation included with the | Euphoria distribution package so that you understand what can be done | without any 3rd party (and mostly 'unstamped') libraries. Go through the | tutorial in the package an look at the examples provided in the package (as | a beginner, I'd stick with DOS programming). I've not looked at ABGTE but | from what I've heard, it is also a great resource for learning Euphoria | programming fundamentals. But the most important part is to use what you | learn. Write small demo-type programs that use the some of the procedures | and functions that Euphoria offers. Download some of the stuff from the | Euphoria archives and try to understand how they work. Tweak the code and | see how your changes affect the programs. I started using Euphoria with a | programming background so I jumped right into Windows programming with | Win32lib. I learned by writing many small programs that each used | different parts of the library (which was also a good way to find bugs in | the library.) When I became comfortable enough with it, I started coding | bigger programs. | | I guess everybody learns differently. But for me, the best way to learn | was to dig right in and start writing programs... then learn from my | mistakes. One of the best things about Euphoria is that it usually gives a | very good description of what your errors are (unless you are over 300 | lines and don't have the registered version). If you can't figure out your | problem, then you can turn to this very helpful and friendly community on | this mailing list. | | How do you get good at programming? As with anything you'd like to get | good at: "practice makes perfect". | | Good luck, | Brian |
6. Re: Rip'um!
- Posted by mic _ <stabmaster_ at HOTMAIL.COM> Aug 10, 2000
- 426 views
>should I read ABGTE until I completely understand or just get more > >experiance? When I first found Euphoria on the net (I think it was version 1.5 or sumthin') I had never heard of ABGTE, heck I didn't even have internet access at home back then (nor my own computer :( ). Before this I had only been programming with QB, and some asm (real mode only ofcourse..) and when I saw the programs in the demo folder I was a bit impressed, so I decided to learn the language. The hardest thing for me to comprehend (as for any non-euphorian) was those weird sequences, but reading through the reference manual a couple of times and looking at the example programs helped a great deal in making me understand how it worked. Although I'm sure that ABGTE could've shoretened my way though the learning-curve.. (bottom line: you don't _need_ ABGTE, but if it's available then why don't use it ?) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com