1. A squeak from the Peanut Gallery
- Posted by Travis Beaty <atora at xoommail.com> Aug 08, 2000
- 474 views
Hello All! I am glad to see that win32lib has turned into a community project, as it will no doubt greatly accelerate the advancement and power of the library. This is no slam toward Mr. Cuny; I am sure he has many more pressing matters than win32lib! I would love to help out with the project. Unfortunately, my current work, my lack of solid Internet access, and my sheer lack of programming knowledge in the Windows arena, would make me a rather unproductive member of the team. Travis Beaty Claude, Texas I would like to make a motion as far as the project goals are concerned, though. It may be a good idea to have a goal as follows. "We will attempt to maintain the simplicity of use which Mr. Cuny has thusfar delivered to it, in keeping with the simple nature of the Euphoria language." Or something like that ... I'm not the best orator in the world. Basically, work on the idea that the end user will have less programming experience than you. This I ask for those out there like me who are fifteen years behind the "C" crowd. I'm currently learning C++, so I understand a tad-bit of the Windows code, but not near enough to access any dll's. I'm sure that there are many out there like me, perhaps quite a few. Hence the original appeal of win32lib.ew -- I could just read the documentation and pop open a window, without having to worry about getting my hand stuck in the gears. I'll be looking forward to reading about progress. Good luck and happy hunting! ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com
2. Re: A squeak from the Peanut Gallery
- Posted by Kat <gertie at PELL.NET> Aug 08, 2000
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On 8 Aug 2000, at 11:01, Travis Beaty wrote: <snip> > Travis Beaty > Claude, Texas > I would like to make a motion as far as the > project goals are concerned, though. It may be a > good idea to have a goal as follows. "We will > attempt to maintain the simplicity of use which > Mr. Cuny has thusfar delivered to it, in keeping > with the simple nature of the Euphoria > language." Or something like that ... I'm not > the best orator in the world. Basically, work on > the idea that the end user will have less > programming experience than you. > > This I ask for those out there like me who are > fifteen years behind the "C" crowd. I'm > currently learning C++, so I understand a tad-bit > of the Windows code, but not near enough to > access any dll's. I'm sure that there are many > out there like me, perhaps quite a few. Hence > the original appeal of win32lib.ew -- I could > just read the documentation and pop open a > window, without having to worry about getting my > hand stuck in the gears. I second this motion with all my energy. If i am writing MyProgram that needs a window, then i want a basic window to pop up, i don't wish to write a lot of window code, i wanna keep writing MyProgram. Simple software switches to add a command input line, or change the color, or such would be nice too. Examples: window -- returns a random window name, opens plain window that i can print to window <name-Mailbox> -- opens a window named Mailbox window <scroll-horiz> -- opens a default window that scrolls window <scroll-horiz buffer-500lines> -- same, with the scrollback limit set to 500 lines window <color-black> -- opens a black window window <color-rgb-FE0203> -- opens a rusty colored window window <isopen-name-Mailbox#1> -- is that Mailbox#1 window open? window <name-Mailbox#1><color-green> <inputbox-<color-white><length-200><height- 2lines>><colortext-red><print-center-"You have no Mail"> -- does what it says it does to the Mailbox#1 window In other words, have win32lib (or a frontend to it) make a default that i can override with plain commands, like this, from working code: window -ak @ [ $+ [ %sockname ] ] "window" is the command, "a" is activate it "k" is hide the special @ in the title so i don't see it %sockname is the var holding the name i gave the winsock connection when i did this: /sockopen Newsspider [ $+ [ %Newsspider.num ] ] %Newsspider.ip 80 So i get a connection and a window named Newsspider1, displaying the contents of http://abcnews.go.com/wire/world/ on their port 80: - http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters20000807_2285.html British cathedral signs up for Harry Potter film <Date> Aug. 7, 5:41 p.m. - etc, etc, etc,, but *heavily* filtered to show only the headline and url, and i click on the url to open IE, which is also proxied and heavily filtered. Kat, wants to deal in details only as necessary.
3. Re: A squeak from the Peanut Gallery
- Posted by Derek Parnell <dparnell at BIGPOND.NET.AU> Aug 09, 2000
- 450 views
Hi Travis, thanks for this. You *have* just contributed to the project. All successful projects have a vision that is shared by its team, and you have added words to our vision. A part of the documentation for this project will be a "charter" document - I'm currently working on the draft - which will, among other things, describe the team's vision. Can I paraphrase you in the charter ... "We will attempt to maintain the simplicity of use, in keeping with the essential nature of the Euphoria language." cheers, Derek Parnell dparnell at bigpond.net.au Melbourne, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Travis Beaty <atora at xoommail.com> To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, August 9 2000 04:01 Subject: A squeak from the Peanut Gallery | Hello All! | | I am glad to see that win32lib has turned into a | community project, as it will no doubt greatly | accelerate the advancement and power of the | library. This is no slam toward Mr. Cuny; I am | sure he has many more pressing matters than | win32lib! | | I would love to help out with the project. | Unfortunately, my current work, my lack of solid | Internet access, and my sheer lack of programming | knowledge in the Windows arena, would make me a | rather unproductive member of the team. | | | Travis Beaty | Claude, Texas | I would like to make a motion as far as the | project goals are concerned, though. It may be a | good idea to have a goal as follows. "We will | attempt to maintain the simplicity of use which | Mr. Cuny has thusfar delivered to it, in keeping | with the simple nature of the Euphoria | language." Or something like that ... I'm not | the best orator in the world. Basically, work on | the idea that the end user will have less | programming experience than you. | | This I ask for those out there like me who are | fifteen years behind the "C" crowd. I'm | currently learning C++, so I understand a tad-bit | of the Windows code, but not near enough to | access any dll's. I'm sure that there are many | out there like me, perhaps quite a few. Hence | the original appeal of win32lib.ew -- I could | just read the documentation and pop open a | window, without having to worry about getting my | hand stuck in the gears. | | I'll be looking forward to reading about | progress. Good luck and happy hunting! | | | | | ______________________________________________________ | Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com | Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting | cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com |