1. Why Euphoria?
- Posted by Jason Leit <jasonleit at HOTMAIL.COM> Jun 14, 2000
- 764 views
We all have our reasons for using Euphoria... but what are they? For me, it's the wounderfull syntax, flexible feel, small polished and safe look that this language and intepretter posseses. You can write code without hitting Shift all the time to place some obscure #&&||%; sign all over the place before and after you write a line of code. When you write a Euphoria program, you'll know it will run without crashing, allowing you to combine a fast assault of "edit/run/edit/run" combos to slay your C++ enemeies :) It's realy a calm and safe language, for a person with Anxiety Dissorder like me, this is truly a blessing. I can't imagine long hours of frustration, buzzing harddrives and crashing programs that are associated with C or C++ to be helpfull to people like me. What is *your* reason for liking Euphoria? Jason Leit, Cheers! ;) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
2. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by "C. K. Lester" <cklester at HOTPOP.COM> Jun 13, 2000
- 677 views
- Last edited Jun 14, 2000
I like it 'cuz it's so sexy! > > What is *your* reason for liking Euphoria? >
3. Why Euphoria?
- Posted by Michael Nelson <mike-nelson-ODAAT at WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Jun 13, 2000
- 656 views
Jason Leit writes <snip> >What is *your* reason for liking Euphoria? For me it is the beauty and the simplicity and the POWER of the language. While some languages do some things better, with a little ingenuity, Euphoria can accomplish almost anything. An an example dear to my OOP heart (sorry, Jiri) is my own Object Euphoria and several other OOP systems for Euphoria--can you even imagine Bjarne Stroustrup trying to create C++ by adding a single header file to C? Bjarne is a far better programmer than I'm likely to ever be, yet I and others have done something comparable in this language. That says something about power. Euphoria is indeed sexy--she does it the regular way very well indeed, but also does the kinky stuff (such as OOP) surprisingly well. -- Mike Nelson
4. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by Jiri Babor <J.Babor at GNS.CRI.NZ> Jun 14, 2000
- 661 views
cklester wrote: > I like it 'cuz it's so sexy! Mike Nelson agreed with him: > Euphoria is indeed sexy--she does it the regular way very well indeed, > but also does the kinky stuff... Any more perverts on the list? jiri ;)
5. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by "C. K. Lester" <cklester at HOTPOP.COM> Jun 13, 2000
- 670 views
- Last edited Jun 14, 2000
LOL Hey, I was only spewing back out what the marketing behemoth known as "RDS" has been forcing into my brain on their website... and I quote, "Euphoria is fast, flexible and fun; simple, safe, and SEXY!" (emphasis is mine, all mine!) See, I couldn't help it. I've become a drooling idiot, hopelessly infatuated with EUPHORIA. I could make a joke about being in a state of EUPHORIA, but I'm in Texas so it wouldn't work. Oh well, back to coding. > -----Original Message----- > From: Euphoria Programming for MS-DOS > [mailto:EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU]On Behalf Of Jiri Babor > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 10:52 PM > To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU > Subject: Re: Why Euphoria? > > > > > cklester wrote: > > > I like it 'cuz it's so sexy! > > Mike Nelson agreed with him: > > > Euphoria is indeed sexy--she does it the regular way very well indeed, > > but also does the kinky stuff... > > Any more perverts on the list? > > jiri ;) >
6. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by "A.R.S. Alvin Koffman" <ka9qlq at HOTMAIL.COM> Jun 14, 2000
- 681 views
------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BFD59A.5D5B2F00 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >What is *your* reason for liking Euphoria? It's this friendly group that let's me ask dumb questions and get smart = honest striate answers fast. http://ka9qlq.tripod.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BFD59A.5D5B2F00 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3401" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#a8c8f0> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>What is *your* reason for liking=20 Euphoria?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's this friendly group that let's me = ask dumb=20 questions and get smart honest striate answers fast.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BFD59A.5D5B2F00--
7. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by "A.R.S. Alvin Koffman" <ka9qlq at HOTMAIL.COM> Jun 14, 2000
- 657 views
------=_NextPart_000_004F_01BFD59B.1C72DC80 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hay man I live in a nursing home and do we have perverts here!!!!!!!!! cklester wrote: > I like it 'cuz it's so sexy! Mike Nelson agreed with him: > Euphoria is indeed sexy--she does it the regular way very well indeed, > but also does the kinky stuff... Any more perverts on the list? jiri ;) http://ka9qlq.tripod.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01BFD59B.1C72DC80 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3401" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#a8c8f0> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hay man I live in a nursing home and do = we have=20 perverts here!!!!!!!!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cklester wrote:<BR><BR>> I like it = 'cuz it's so=20 sexy!<BR><BR>Mike Nelson agreed with him:<BR><BR>> Euphoria is indeed = sexy--she does it the regular way very well indeed,<BR>> but also = does the=20 kinky stuff...<BR><BR>Any more perverts on the list?<BR><BR>jiri=20 ;)<BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01BFD59B.1C72DC80--
8. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by David Cuny <dcuny at LANSET.COM> Jun 14, 2000
- 684 views
Jason Leit wrote: > We all have our reasons for using Euphoria... but what are they? I had been doing all my coding in QBasic, and ran into memory problems. Euphoria was attractive because: - It was free - It didn't have QBasic's memory constraints - It used C functions I already knew - It was free - It had cool LISP-like data structures, but more flexible - It was DOS-based - It was free It took a while to master, though. The most difficult part of the transition probably dealt with working with sequences as string. In QBasic, I was used to writing something like this: IF MID$( A$, 1, 3 ) = "FOO" THEN Naturally, I'd code them as: if compare( a[1..3], "FOO" ) = 0 then and the code would blow up on when the sequence length was less than 3. At the time, Euphoria didn't support short-circuiting, so the code got to be pretty awful. Another constant source of bugs was the compare statement. Robert, thanks again for adding the equal() function to the library. Another point where I'd constantly get into trouble was confusing the append and '&' concat operators. I'd be adding and removing items from sequences, and using append() instead of concat. The following functions would have been helpful when I was a newbie: -- untested code! function remove( sequence s, integer index ) -- return a sequence with the nth item removed return s[1..index-1] & s[index+1..length(s)] end function function insert( sequence s, integer index, object o ) -- return a sequence with o inserted at index position return s[1..index-1] & o & s[index+1..length(s)] end function -- David Cuny
9. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by Beaumont Furniss <bfurniss at IHUG.CO.NZ> Jun 14, 2000
- 678 views
Some of my reasons are similar to yours , then I wondered why I had the problems in the first place and put an effort into correcting these. Therefore , I use Euphoria as a reminder that the assumed limitations are a farce ; that the real challenge is to master your apprehensions and those you perceive from others. On 2000-06-14 EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU said: EU>We all have our reasons for using Euphoria... but what are they? EU>For me, it's the wounderfull syntax, flexible feel, small polished EU>and safe look that this language and intepretter posseses. EU>You can write code without hitting Shift all the time to place some EU>obscure #&&||%; sign all over the place before and after you write EU>a line of code. EU>When you write a Euphoria program, you'll know it will run without EU>crashing, allowing you to combine a fast assault of EU>"edit/run/edit/run" combos to slay your C++ enemeies :) EU>It's realy a calm and safe language, for a person with Anxiety EU>Dissorder like me, this is truly a blessing. I can't imagine long EU>hours of frustration, buzzing harddrives and crashing programs that EU>are associated with C or C++ to be helpfull to people like me. EU>What is *your* reason for liking Euphoria? EU>Jason Leit, EU>Cheers! ;) EU>____________________________________________________________________ EU>____ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www. EU>hotmail.com Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Test Drive
10. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by SR Williamson <sr.williamson at OSHA.GOV> Jun 14, 2000
- 670 views
Very good, interesting question. Lots of reasons: 1) I could try it for free. 2) When I was using C, I would get crashes frequently and I wouldn't know why. This is a huge PITA for a self-taught programmer. 3) I didn't have the skill, time, inclination, patience, or resources to learn enough about memory management and garbage collection to make a decent, mostly bullet-proof program. 4) One program I wrote in C++ was 500k. Same program in Eu: 170k. 5) Free libraries for everything from OOP and games to Windows programming. 6) There is NO.... Rule 6. 7) A library of code I can learn from. 8) With proper planning, I can easily write extensible code (well, extensible by myself) and modular code (modular to myself, anyway). OTOH, I think it's very difficult to extend someone else's code in Eu, but I think that's a problem with every language I know of, despite attempts by many. In all probability that's a reflection of my skill (lack of it) though. 9) I could learn the basics quickly, and the basics would let me do quite a lot. 10) Good resources for questions. If I can be pardoned for resurrecting the ghost of Everett for a moment, I want to say that I do think that the difficulty of extending/adding to Eu programs is its second biggest weakness, with the first being the lack of a full featured VIDE (but EuDesigner is getting there). Typically, I get time to do some coding for a week at a time, and I'd love to do something like extend EuDesigner, but I don't want to waste my programming time by having to painstakingly dissect the code to see what it does. The amateur/lesser skilled programmers usually have a lot more time to work on things than the more skilled programmers. If you can make programs easily extensible or make them so modules can be added easily, you can add to existing programs so that they quickly become something more than trivial or so that they become even more powerful. Eu seems perfectly designed for this, too. It's easy to learn for beginners, and you don't have to worry about the new part of the program causing the garbage collection to crash in the old part, or that you're going to break the memory management by adding a module. I don't know if it's worth changing the Eu language itself over, but it seems that there should be some solution, even if it's a workaround, that someone could figure out. There are some pretty good programmers on the list. And while I'm whining, I'd vote for a BEOS Eu also. There sure is a big need for freeware/shareware in that OS.
11. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by Bernie Ryan <xotron at BUFFNET.NET> Jun 14, 2000
- 673 views
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:57:26 -0400, SR Williamson <sr.williamson at OSHA.GOV> wrote: >If I can be pardoned for resurrecting the ghost of Everett for a moment, I >want to say that I do think that the difficulty of extending/adding to Eu >programs is its second biggest weakness I agree. Let's hope this weakness will be resolved with the compiler !
12. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by Arlie Codina <eu at FLASHMAIL.COM> Jun 14, 2000
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- Last edited Jun 15, 2000
SR Williamson <sr.williamson at OSHA.GOV> wrote: >And while I'm whining, I'd vote for a BEOS Eu also. There sure is a big >need for freeware/shareware in that OS. How about for PALM OS?
13. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by No Solution <solutionnone at HOTMAIL.COM> Jun 14, 2000
- 671 views
q: "What is *your* reason for liking Euphoria?" a: Because i stumbled upon it at http://www.programmersheaven.com and i was fed up with Borlands Turbo C++ Suite compiler and IDE (which is a really poor c++ compiler compared to the DOS ports of GCC and DJGPP) i have a question now: How does somebody find a programming language sexually attractive? Anybody who has an answer pelase reply Ian / No Solution ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
14. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by Jason Leit <jasonleit at HOTMAIL.COM> Jun 15, 2000
- 657 views
>q: "What is *your* reason for liking Euphoria?" >a: Because i stumbled upon it at http://www.programmersheaven.com and i was >fed up with Borlands Turbo C++ Suite compiler and IDE (which is a really >poor c++ compiler compared to the DOS ports of GCC and DJGPP) I agree aswell, Turbo C++ is poor... >i have a question now: >How does somebody find a programming language sexually attractive? Anybody >who has an answer pelase reply Well... I'm not sure.... Maybe because the language is so small and polished, and you feel good and satisfied when using it, it gives you a sensation of "falling in love" with the language, leading to sexual feelings for it... >Ian / No Solution Jaso Leit, Cheers! :) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
15. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by Peter Millan <sonic at GLOBALFREEWAY.COM.AU> Jun 16, 2000
- 663 views
>What is *your* reason for liking Euphoria? I've been programming (if you can really call it that) in QBasic, and needed a faster language. I'm still amazed at the speed Euphoria can get up to - things like mem_copying 200 times to video memory during vertical retrace. After using BASIC since about 1991 (on a C64) I've been used to slow looping. Ease of use: once I unlearnt some BASIC programming habits (especially no GOTO statement) I found learning new things in Euphoria easy. Little Code: So little code, so much program! Small Size: I'd still like to learn C - but 20MB+ for a compiler, and thousands of files that probably do nothing - no way! Euphoria takes up ~170 KB for DOS, ~70KB for Windows. I'm not blessed with a 5GB hard drive - I only have 850MB. Speed: It's fast. Ooh-la-la: Euphoria is sexy :) Funny: It's funny people thinking that Euphoria is some sort of program that teaches you how to get high. Plus, I got sick of trying to learn C - why should I have to put semicolons at the end of statements when Euphoria can manage without? Which leads to another question - how did everyone find out about Euphoria? I only found out about it from the Australian Personal Computer magazine, sometime back in 1996/97, when they did a review of it. Pete Millan
16. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by Brian Broker <bkb at CNW.COM> Jun 15, 2000
- 678 views
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:55:33 +1000, Peter Millan wrote: >Which leads to another question - how did everyone find out about >Euphoria? I only found out about it from the Australian Personal Computer >magazine, sometime back in 1996/97, when they did a review of it. I'm not exactly sure but it was probably a search engine that pointed me to a free language that did Windows. Looking at the online documentation convinced me to give it a go, since there weren't too many keywords that I had to learn. The Win32 demos that come with the package scared me a bit, though, until I stumbled upon Win32Lib that made it a WHOLE lot easier (thanks David!). When I got to the point where my programs were over 300 statements I decided that $40 was a fair price for the debugging features alone (and I could make stand-alone exe's on top of that). Euphoria has been a great hobby language for me but I'm to the point in my career where I need to bite the bullet and start doing more C coding. Most employers have never heard of Euphoria and most are looking for strong C/C++ coding skills. On the other hand, that Eu -> C translator might be a nice tutor depending upon how smart it is. (Although I'm not sure if I like the fact that it translates some stuff into 'goto's. I was taught that 'goto's lead to spaghetti code and I've been able to get along just fine without them for many years.) -- Brian
17. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by "R. W. D." <filexfer3 at JUNO.COM> Jun 15, 2000
- 654 views
- Last edited Jun 16, 2000
>i have a question now: >How does somebody find a programming language sexually >attractive? Anybody >who has an answer pelase reply I like the way Euphoria looks coyly over her shoulder at me and licks her lips with her come-hither expression... the way her back arches and she gasps in pleasure... Mom says I have to sign off this list now.
18. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by "C. K. Lester" <cklester at HOTPOP.COM> Jun 15, 2000
- 658 views
- Last edited Jun 16, 2000
Good question, Pete... I think I stumbled across it when looking through a software archive for programming languages. I was probably looking for a C compiler or something... then found EUPHORIA. I'm a lucky guy! > Which leads to another question - how did everyone find out about > Euphoria? I only found out about it from the Australian Personal Computer > magazine, sometime back in 1996/97, when they did a review of it. > > Pete Millan >
19. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by "C. K. Lester" <cklester at HOTPOP.COM> Jun 15, 2000
- 661 views
- Last edited Jun 16, 2000
LOL! That's funny stuff. > >i have a question now: > >How does somebody find a programming language sexually > >attractive? Anybody > >who has an answer pelase reply > > I like the way Euphoria looks coyly over her shoulder > at me and licks her lips with her come-hither > expression... the way her back arches and she gasps > in pleasure... > > Mom says I have to sign off this list now. >
20. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by RedWordSmith <redwordsmith at NIC.DREAMHOST.COM> Jun 15, 2000
- 684 views
- Last edited Jun 16, 2000
"C. K. Lester" wrote: > > LOL! That's funny stuff. > > > > > I like the way Euphoria looks coyly over her shoulder > > at me and licks her lips with her come-hither > > expression... the way her back arches and she gasps > > in pleasure... > > > > Mom says I have to sign off this list now. > > That reminds me of the time in alt.config when famous newsadmin Jay Deneheim (sp?) of USENET fame said that USENET is raunchy primarily because of college students. Alas, I found out about Euphoria from some sort of a game design site, the URL of which escapes me at the moment. -- Nic (RedWord)Smith
21. Re: Why Euphoria?
- Posted by "Gerardo E. Brandariz" <gebrandariz at YAHOO.COM> Jun 16, 2000
- 744 views
------=_NextPart_000_02C9_01BFD734.1461FAE0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Perverts, indeed. Yes, there are. Me. I've been around computers for more than twenty years now, most of the = time programming in one language or another. Many times I've had to get = a language to work for me really fast; my current job has me doing cgi = in perl, something I couldn't do a couple of months ago. So, what's my perversion? I crave to get things done the right way, the = fastest, most efficient, easiest way. Maybe my way. I can analyze, I can = design, I can investigate and troubleshoot, but then I have to sit down = and get the damn thing working, or I don't eat. And it's too many times = I've had to face the ideological quirks of language designers. Euphoria lets me do my thing. I can use it for extremely simple things = like '? x', but it will also let me do graphics, grab at the Win API, or = catch a DOS interrupt. It doesn't force a style on me, and it doesn't = _require_ all-night jars of coffee. There are things I've done with Euphoria I haven't been able to do with = any other comparable language. (Assembler, maybe; I haven't tried). Like = building a nice DOS user interface that mixes graphics mode and text = mode. Like swooping up and down the screen modes list, and having a text = screen zoom back and forth on the fly, changing palettes and colors = along the way, until I had to look away before I got any dizzier. And something that gets to be quite important past your tenth or = fifteenth language: the documentation, especially the reference. = Euphoria comes with a light, understandable and well-xref'd, and still = quite complete set of docs. My desk currently supports three = well-written but loooooooong Perl books, and a real monster for HTML, = XML and scripting. Good books all, but not something you can say 'find', = and there it is, all you need to know in three paragraphs and a smile. Thank you all. Gerardo E. Brandariz ----- Original Message -----=20 From: A.R.S. Alvin Koffman=20 To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 2:54 AM Subject: Re: Why Euphoria? Hay man I live in a nursing home and do we have perverts here!!!!!!!!! =20 cklester wrote: > I like it 'cuz it's so sexy! Mike Nelson agreed with him: > Euphoria is indeed sexy--she does it the regular way very well = indeed, > but also does the kinky stuff... Any more perverts on the list? jiri ;) http://ka9qlq.tripod.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_02C9_01BFD734.1461FAE0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#a8c8f0> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Perverts, indeed. Yes, there are. Me.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I've been around computers for more than twenty = years now,=20 most of the time programming in one language or another. Many times I've = had to=20 get a language to work for me really fast; my current job has me doing = cgi in=20 perl, something I couldn't do a couple of months ago.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>So, what's my perversion? I crave to get things done = the right=20 way, the fastest, most efficient, easiest way. Maybe my way. I can = analyze, I=20 can design, I can investigate and troubleshoot, but then I have to sit = down and=20 get the damn thing working, or I don't eat. And it's too many times I've = had to=20 face the ideological quirks of language designers.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Euphoria lets me do my thing. I can use it for = extremely=20 simple things like '? x', but it will also let me do graphics, grab at = the Win=20 API, or catch a DOS interrupt. It doesn't force a style on me, and it = doesn't=20 _require_ all-night jars of coffee.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>There are things I've done with Euphoria I haven't = been able=20 to do with any other comparable language. (Assembler, maybe; I haven't = tried).=20 Like building a nice DOS user interface that mixes graphics mode and = text mode.=20 Like swooping up and down the screen modes list, and having a text = screen zoom=20 back and forth on the fly, changing palettes and colors along the way, = until I=20 had to look away before I got any dizzier.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>And something that gets to be quite important past = your tenth=20 or fifteenth language: the documentation, especially the reference. = Euphoria=20 comes with a light, understandable and well-xref'd, and still quite = complete set=20 of docs. My desk currently supports three well-written but loooooooong = Perl=20 books, and a real monster for HTML, XML and scripting. Good books all, = but not=20 something you can say 'find', and there it is, all you need to know in = three=20 paragraphs and a smile.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thank you all.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gerardo E. Brandariz</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:ka9qlq at HOTMAIL.COM" = title=3Dka9qlq at HOTMAIL.COM>A.R.S. Alvin=20 Koffman</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU"=20 title=3DEUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 14, 2000 = 2:54=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Why = Euphoria?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hay man I live in a nursing home and = do we have=20 perverts here!!!!!!!!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cklester wrote:<BR><BR>> I like it = 'cuz it's=20 so sexy!<BR><BR>Mike Nelson agreed with him:<BR><BR>> Euphoria is = indeed=20 sexy--she does it the regular way very well indeed,<BR>> but also = does the=20 kinky stuff...<BR><BR>Any more perverts on the list?<BR><BR>jiri=20 ;)<BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 = ------=_NextPart_000_02C9_01BFD734.1461FAE0-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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22. Why Euphoria?
- Posted by Izchak Aronov <izchak at MAIL.NETVISION.NET.IL> Jan 13, 1997
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Hello all Euphoria programmers! Well, I have few little questions about the language, and please if you can, answer me. Ok. Let's say that I am programming on Turbo Pascal (DOS), a little on Assembly. I see the TP language as the easiest programming language I ever saw, and I think it's realy good for novice users. About couple of months ago,I tried to learn the C++ language, becouse everywhere you go today - it needed. I tried to learn it with a book on hebrew (my language) , and because it was very borring - I dropped down the studying and made a cross line on C++. That means that I should have a GOOD reason to get back itno it. When I saw Euphoria's samples, I mentioned that Euphoria's syntax looks like C++'s one. Btw, the syntax of C++ made me to drop the studies,because it's realy weird and kind of unusual. At TP the syntax is very clear, easy to understand and english language alike. So the question is, why REALY should I move to Euphoria (I saw that you're SO admire the language, so just want to ask - what is SO special at the language that you so like and tell people to move it?) The last question was curiousity,realy. My another question is - isn't that disturbing you that the IDE is uncompotable and looks not realy beautiful? The next question is, can I write programs for Windows95 with it? How? Where can I find materials for it? Is there any other IDE for Euphoria? Maybe for Windows? Can you please send to my personal e-mail some games or utilities that were coded on the language? (I realy want to see what the language can do and how good) I'd like to hear some advices from you,Euphoria programmers, about how to make my learning the language to something enjoyable. (as I mentioned, I hate C++ :) Please don't understand me as someone that makes a laugh from the lagnuage,no,it's realy isn't like that. I just want to try something new, and as I see - Euphoria is a good choice,but please give me some more reasons for it. Thank you very much. Bye Bye. Izchak Aronov