1. compiler=?windows-1251?Q?=3f=3f_?=step 4
-----Original Message-----
>Step 3: Not everyone is going to have a compiler.
> IE: The source would then be useless.
>
>I currently don't have any type of C compiler. I have the following
>compilers. Java, QuickBasic, and Visual Basic. Most people have Zero
>compilers and don't want the hassle that a compiler usually presents. I
>don't use any of the 3 compilers I do have. Just because it is free doesn't
>mean someone is going to have or want it.
Step 4: Every un*x machine has a C compiler. maybe ms should take the hint.
Compilers are a good thing because they allow smaller downloads and promote
free software. Also, compiling is quite easy when you use config and make
files. two or three commands and its done.
I think free distribution of code to compile is a great idea and if someone
is so lazy the he/she does not want to compile free software than they should
not bother with it and stick with MS and affiliates(ie Adobe, etc.) products.
CenSe,
a member of the
ak-software
development team
http://ak-software.virtualave.net/
2. Re: compiler=?windows-1251?Q?=3f=3f_?=step 4
-----Original Message-----
> I found that I was able to construct a type of development
> environment for my little C [ almost ansi ] compiler , through QuickBasic ,
> used as a batch file with a dos based menu program.
> This is quite adequate for learning ANSI C.
> Beyond that an easy to use IDE is preferable , if necessary ;
> written in something like euphoria.
actually, make files and configure scripts are easier to use when compiling
software that is not your because they automate the configuration and header
file setup for you and run all the compile commands in the correct order.
> Fair enough , how big , typically ; is the unix compiler though.
> How available is this free software going to be and how concise ,
> most of the 'freeware' I encounter is a little second rate and seems to
> be an afterthought.
> If this is such a good idea why haven't we already discovered a site
> that's taking software developers through the step by step of learning
> and developing with [unix] compilers.
the most widely available free Un*x/Linux compiler is GCC( or EGCS now ).
this compiler for the intel platform is a little under 4 megs binary packed
in RPM (RedHat Package Management) format.
ever heard of GNU? well GNU produces ALOT of GOOD free software. Linux is all
about free, OpenSource software and there is so much of it out there on sites
like www.icewalker.com, www.linux.com, etc.
The free software for linux (at least GNU stuff) is, in my opinion, of better
quality than any MS software product. Free support on the internet is excellent
and people actually respond to help messages and questions.
>
> And how expensive or available were these.
> So why isn't everyone using unix and why has linux come into existence ?
> Does a unix compiler work from linux ?
>
Like mentioned earlier, GCC ( EGCS now ) is freely available for many
operating systems including DOS. UNIX is criptic to the average windows user.
that is why windows is still king of the PC. Unix compilers *can* work under
linux because Linux is basically a free System V Unix implementation.
CenSe,
a member of the
ak-software
development team
http://ak-software.virtualave.net/
3. Re: compiler=?windows-1251?Q?=3f=3f_?=step 4
On 2000-06-07 cense at mail.ru said:
ce>-----Original Message-----
ce>> I found that I was able to construct a type of development
ce>> environment for my little C [ almost ansi ] compiler , through
ce>>QuickBasic , used as a batch file with a dos based menu program.
ce>> This is quite adequate for learning ANSI C.
ce>> Beyond that an easy to use IDE is preferable , if necessary ;
ce>> written in something like euphoria.
ce>actually, make files and configure scripts are easier to use when
ce>compiling software that is not your because they automate the
ce>configuration and header file setup for you and run all the compile
ce>commands in the correct order.
Make files , sounds a little familiar.
Configure scripts , yet to investigate.
ce>> Fair enough , how big , typically ; is the unix compiler
ce>>though. How available is this free software going to be and
ce>>how concise , most of the 'freeware' I encounter is a little
ce>>second rate and seems to be an afterthought.
ce>> If this is such a good idea why haven't we already discovered
ce>>a site
ce>> that's taking software developers through the step by
ce>>step of learning and developing with [unix] compilers.
ce>the most widely available free Un*x/Linux compiler is GCC( or EGCS
ce>now ). this compiler for the intel platform is a little under 4
ce>megs binary packed in RPM (RedHat Package Management) format.
ce>ever heard of GNU? well GNU produces ALOT of GOOD free software.
ce>Linux is all about free, OpenSource software and there is so much
ce>of it out there on sites like www.icewalker.com, www.linux.com, etc.
ce>The free software for linux (at least GNU stuff) is, in my opinion,
ce>of better quality than any MS software product. Free support on the
ce>internet is excellent and people actually respond to help messages
ce>and questions.
More so than in everyday life.
ce>> And how expensive or available were these.
ce>> So why isn't everyone using unix and why has linux come into
ce>>existence ? Does a unix compiler work from linux ?
ce>Like mentioned earlier, GCC ( EGCS now ) is freely available for
ce>many operating systems including DOS. UNIX is criptic to the
ce>average windows user. that is why windows is still king of the PC.
Why should this be , software should bridge this gap.
ce>Unix compilers *can* work under linux because Linux is basically a
ce>free System V Unix implementation.
At least a few things a sacred then.
ce>CenSe,
ce>a member of the
ce>ak-software
ce>development team
ce>http://ak-software.virtualave.net/
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