1. GCC / EGCS
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From: "CenSe" <cense at mail.ru>
To: "Euphoria Programming for MS-DOS" <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 3:37 AM
Subject: Re[2]: compiler?? step 4
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> Like mentioned earlier, GCC ( EGCS now ) is freely available for many
> operating systems including DOS. UNIX is criptic to the average windows
user.
> that is why windows is still king of the PC. Unix compilers *can* work
under
> linux because Linux is basically a free System V Unix implementation.
>
I actually want to take the time to learn C. I had previously
downloaded and installed EGCS and..... And I couldn't the the $*#@ thing
to work. I fought with the piece of #*$% for a short time until I decided
it just wasn't worth my time.
I still have desire to learn C. I have programs that I can get FREE
source to but can't get in compiled format that I want to compile in C. But
if I have to FIGHT with the $*#@ Compiler then the whole $*#@ lot can just
kiss my @$$.
Sincerely,
Lucius L. Hilley III
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>> <BR>> Like mentioned =
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GCC ( EGCS now ) is freely available for many<BR>> operating systems=20
including DOS. UNIX is criptic to the average windows user.<BR>> that =
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because Linux is basically a free System V Unix implementation.<BR>>=20
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actually want to=20
take the time to learn C. I had previously downloaded and =
installed EGCS=20
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with the piece of #*$% for a short time until I decided it just wasn't =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2> I still =
have desire=20
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can't get in=20
compiled format that I want to compile in C. But if I have to =
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the $*#@ Compiler then the whole $*#@ lot can just kiss my =
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III</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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2. Re: GCC / EGCS
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000 06:27:58 -0400, Lucius L. Hilley III <lhilley at CDC.NET>
wrote:
> I actually want to take the time to learn C. I had previously
Lucius:
Go to borland and download this free compiler. It comes with a
IDE ( integrated development enviorment ). Using this will make it
easy for you to learn to use "C". There are many samples and tutorials
out on the web. I can't see how someone as talented as you are in
Euphoria can't learn "C".
http://community.borland.com/article/0,1410,20841,00.html
Bernie
3. Re: GCC / EGCS
On 2000-06-07 EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU said:
EU>On Wed, 7 Jun 2000 06:27:58 -0400, Lucius L. Hilley III
EU><lhilley at CDC.NET> wrote:
EU>> I actually want to take the time to learn C. I had previously
EU>Lucius:
EU>Go to borland and download this free compiler. It comes with a
EU>IDE ( integrated development enviorment ). Using this will make it
EU>easy for you to learn to use "C". There are many samples and
EU>tutorials
EU>out on the web. I can't see how someone as talented as you are in
EU>Euphoria can't learn "C".
EU>http://community.borland.com/article/0,1410,20841,00.html
EU>Bernie
I found , as others may of , that until you get feedback from an
actual ansi type C compiler , there's little incentive to learn C.
Even with this established one needs to be persistent while learning the
subtlties that can result in a system crash.
The PCC compiler is the most straightforward version I know of ;
refer Listserv for details.
Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Test Drive
4. Re: GCC / EGCS
On 2000-06-07 EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU said:
EU>> Like mentioned earlier, GCC ( EGCS now ) is freely available for
EU>>many operating systems including DOS. UNIX is criptic to the
EU>average windows user.
EU>> that is why windows is still king of the PC. Unix compilers *can*
EU>work under
EU>> linux because Linux is basically a free System V Unix
EU>implementation. >
EU>I actually want to take the time to learn C. I had previously
EU>downloaded and installed EGCS and..... And I couldn't the the
EU>$*#@ thing to work. I fought with the piece of #*$% for a short
EU>time until I decided it just wasn't worth my time.
EU>I still have desire to learn C. I have programs that I can get FREE
EU>source to but can't get in compiled format that I want to compile
EU>in C. But if I have to FIGHT with the $*#@ Compiler then the whole
EU>$*#@ lot can just kiss my @$$.
EU>Sincerely,
EU>Lucius L. Hilley III
The recipe that works for me , PCC , ansi C text ; h.schildt -
teach yourself C. also a few shell" " calls from quickbasic , or
equivalently system() calls from euphoria , or a batch file to interface
to something like the enhanced version of EDIT.
Pcc , like other C-compilers , isn't 100% ansi compatible ; going
through the ansi-C text however , I'm able to build up a number of examples
that are and can be compiled from within Pcc. The variations aren't great ,
yet these need to be documented. Things like gets() for instance , rather
than getche().
Once the documentation ,to go with Pcc, is complete and the examples are
completed then I can revise ; yet again what I learn't.
This certainly is an improvement on the course I attended at a local
Polytechnic , on C coding , a few years ago.
Eventually a larger compiler might be considered , presently though
there's enough to keep me busy.
If anyone wants the details , send me a message.
Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Test Drive
5. Re: GCC / EGCS
I also use pcc, I found it at simtel.net. It is not ansi, but
"Kernighan&Ritchie" compatible, like the cc compiler I used on Sun stations.
What is great is that it works even on PC-XT, no need to have a >386
processor... I use it on my HP 200LX palmtop in the train.
Riwal
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beaumont Furniss [SMTP:bfurniss at IHUG.CO.NZ]
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 9:30 AM
> To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
> Subject: Re: GCC / EGCS
>
> On 2000-06-07 EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU said:
>
> EU>> Like mentioned earlier, GCC ( EGCS now ) is freely available for
> EU>>many operating systems including DOS. UNIX is criptic to the
> EU>average windows user.
> EU>> that is why windows is still king of the PC. Unix compilers *can*
> EU>work under
> EU>> linux because Linux is basically a free System V Unix
> EU>implementation. >
> EU>I actually want to take the time to learn C. I had previously
> EU>downloaded and installed EGCS and..... And I couldn't the the
> EU>$*#@ thing to work. I fought with the piece of #*$% for a short
> EU>time until I decided it just wasn't worth my time.
> EU>I still have desire to learn C. I have programs that I can get FREE
> EU>source to but can't get in compiled format that I want to compile
> EU>in C. But if I have to FIGHT with the $*#@ Compiler then the whole
> EU>$*#@ lot can just kiss my @$$.
> EU>Sincerely,
> EU>Lucius L. Hilley III
>
> The recipe that works for me , PCC , ansi C text ; h.schildt -
> teach yourself C. also a few shell" " calls from quickbasic , or
> equivalently system() calls from euphoria , or a batch file to interface
> to something like the enhanced version of EDIT.
>
> Pcc , like other C-compilers , isn't 100% ansi compatible ; going
> through the ansi-C text however , I'm able to build up a number of
> examples
> that are and can be compiled from within Pcc. The variations aren't great
> ,
> yet these need to be documented. Things like gets() for instance ,
> rather
> than getche().
> Once the documentation ,to go with Pcc, is complete and the examples are
> completed then I can revise ; yet again what I learn't.
> This certainly is an improvement on the course I attended at a local
> Polytechnic , on C coding , a few years ago.
>
> Eventually a larger compiler might be considered , presently though
> there's enough to keep me busy.
>
> If anyone wants the details , send me a message.
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Test Drive
6. Re: GCC / EGCS
On 2000-06-08 EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU said:
K&R <--> ansi
The differences aren't that great , a little software and you can
translate between the two , a lookup table ; for substitutions might
suffice.
You could put this Compiler in rom and run the whole thing from
ram , on a palmtop this is probably what you do anyway.
I use my ramdrive , as a temporary drive for pcc, this makes everything
that much faster and saves on disk accesses . When the file I'm
editing/compiling runs correctly ; I save that to the hdd.
Pcc uses the classical approach to passing parameters to functions
though , there are a few other peculiarities , unsigned long doesn't
appear to be supported ; something else also.....
EU>I also use pcc, I found it at simtel.net. It is not ansi, but
EU>"Kernighan&Ritchie" compatible, like the cc compiler I used on Sun
EU>stations. What is great is that it works even on PC-XT, no need to
EU>have a >386 processor... I use it on my HP 200LX palmtop in the
EU>train.
EU>Riwal
EU>> -----Original Message-----
EU>> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 9:30 AM
EU>> On 2000-06-07 EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU said:
EU>> EU>> Like mentioned earlier, GCC ( EGCS now ) is freely
EU>>available for EU>>many operating systems including DOS. UNIX is
EU>>criptic to the EU>average windows user.
EU>> EU>> that is why windows is still king of the PC. Unix compilers
EU>>*can* EU>work under
EU>> EU>> linux because Linux is basically a free System V Unix
EU>> EU>implementation. >
EU>> EU>I actually want to take the time to learn C. I had previously
EU>> EU>downloaded and installed EGCS and..... And I couldn't the
EU>>the EU>$*#@ thing to work. I fought with the piece of #*$% for
EU>>a short EU>time until I decided it just wasn't worth my time.
EU>> EU>I still have desire to learn C. I have programs that I can
EU>>get FREE EU>source to but can't get in compiled format that I
EU>>want to compile EU>in C. But if I have to FIGHT with the $*#@
EU>>Compiler then the whole EU>$*#@ lot can just kiss my @$$.
EU>> EU>Sincerely,
EU>> EU>Lucius L. Hilley III
EU>> The recipe that works for me , PCC , ansi C text ; h.schildt -
EU>> teach yourself C. also a few shell" " calls from quickbasic ,
EU>>or equivalently system() calls from euphoria , or a batch file
EU>>to interface to something like the enhanced version of EDIT.
EU>> Pcc , like other C-compilers , isn't 100% ansi compatible ;
EU>>going through the ansi-C text however , I'm able to build up a
EU>>number of examples
EU>> that are and can be compiled from within Pcc. The variations
EU>>aren't great ,
EU>> yet these need to be documented. Things like gets() for
EU>>instance , rather
EU>> than getche().
EU>> Once the documentation ,to go with Pcc, is complete and the
EU>>examples are completed then I can revise ; yet again what I
EU>>learn't. This certainly is an improvement on the course I
EU>>attended at a local Polytechnic , on C coding , a few years ago.
EU>> Eventually a larger compiler might be considered , presently
EU>>though there's enough to keep me busy.
EU>> If anyone wants the details , send me a message.
EU>> Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Test Drive
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