1. New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Hi there,

I really dont like MS's MonthCalendar so i created this one quite a while
back.

Screen Shot:
http://mral.peu.net/data/Misc_attach/Cal01-03-01-2005.gif

Now im asking people what they think would look good for a calendar.
By this i mean, what would look good for the various aspects such as
day selection (a checkmark? underline? color? etc?) and maybe even
operational aspects (click once to select, right click for options
such as back color, main color, etc).
For use as an appointment calendar, bold text works, for marking the appt
days, but not that good.  I was thinking maybe circle them, underline them,
or maybe a different color (like green for low priority appts, red for
high priority appts, etc).
Since it's turning out to have rather high level graphics, i was
thinking 'Themes' also.

What do you think?

Any other ideas?


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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2. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Al Getz wrote:
> Now im asking people what they think would look good for a calendar.
> By this i mean, what would look good for the various aspects such as
> day selection (a checkmark? underline? color? etc?) and maybe even
> operational aspects (click once to select, right click for options
> such as back color, main color, etc).
> For use as an appointment calendar, bold text works, for marking the appt
> days, but not that good.  I was thinking maybe circle them, underline them,
> or maybe a different color (like green for low priority appts, red for
> high priority appts, etc).
> Since it's turning out to have rather high level graphics, i was
> thinking 'Themes' also.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Any other ideas?
My 2 cents...

I thought about creating something similar (and have to a certain degree)
using EuGrid.  What I would like to see:

1. Ability to have a small block for each day with smaller colored blocks
showing appointments, etc.  Much like the desktop app that comes with a 
Palm pilot.
2. Ability to switch between a week or month view.
3. Ability to set the background color for a specific day.
4. Tooltip that shows appointment detail when hovering over a day.
5. Ability to select a from/to date.

Is that too much to ask?

Jonas Temple
http://www.yhti.net/~jktemple

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3. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

> > Any other ideas?
Jonas Temple wrote:
> My 2 cents...
> 
> I thought about creating something similar (and have to a certain degree)
> using EuGrid.  What I would like to see:
> 
> 1. Ability to have a small block for each day with smaller colored blocks
> showing appointments, etc.  Much like the desktop app that comes with a 
> Palm pilot.
> 2. Ability to switch between a week or month view.
> 3. Ability to set the background color for a specific day.
> 4. Tooltip that shows appointment detail when hovering over a day.
> 5. Ability to select a from/to date.
> 
> Is that too much to ask?
> 
> Jonas Temple
> <a href="http://www.yhti.net/~jktemple">http://www.yhti.net/~jktemple</a>
> 

Hi there Jonas,


Thanks for the interesting ideas!

#1 sounds interesting but i've never seen a Palm Pilot desktop app.
   If you could perhaps explain this a little more it would help.

#2 i assume you want to only see one week at a time sometimes?

#3 seems clear.

#4 i like this idea a lot.  Makes viewing much faster i bet.  This is
   going to have to get into the program.  Thanks for the idea!

#5 i assume you are looking for a date range.


Thanks for the ideas.  I really like the tool tip idea so that's going
to be first smile  This also eliminates having to click on the date just
to see the appts.


Thanks again,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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4. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Al Getz wrote:
> > I thought about creating something similar (and have to a certain degree)
> > using EuGrid.  What I would like to see:
> > 
> > 1. Ability to have a small block for each day with smaller colored blocks
> > showing appointments, etc.  Much like the desktop app that comes with a 
> > Palm pilot.
> > 2. Ability to switch between a week or month view.
> > 3. Ability to set the background color for a specific day.
> > 4. Tooltip that shows appointment detail when hovering over a day.
> > 5. Ability to select a from/to date.
> > 
> > Is that too much to ask?
> Hi there Jonas,
> 
> 
> Thanks for the interesting ideas!
> 
> #1 sounds interesting but i've never seen a Palm Pilot desktop app.
>    If you could perhaps explain this a little more it would help.

Well, the desktop app is free, even if you don't own a Palm.  To see what
I mean, you can download at:

http://www.palmone.com/us/software/desktop/

> 
> #2 i assume you want to only see one week at a time sometimes?

Yep

> #5 i assume you are looking for a date range.

Well, what I'd like is a single calendar where you can select two dates.
Right now I've got apps that require a from/to date and you can only 
pick a single date from the MS calendar.  Now thinking about it, it might
be possible with the MS control to pick multiple dates.  I'll have to 
look at MSDN.

Jonas Temple
http://www.yhti.net/~jktemple

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5. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

>>> guest at RapidEuphoria.com 03/02/2005 12:45:56 PM >>>
Well, the desktop app is free, even if you don't own a Palm.  To see
what
I mean, you can download at:

http://www.palmone.com/us/software/desktop/ 

Jonas Temple
http://www.yhti.net/~jktemple 

-----------

I've just uploaded a project I was working on last year that contains
multiple "Day Planner" views, similar to what you see in the Palm
desktop.  It uses the standard MonthCalendar controls built into
win32lib.  Look for "LPlanner" on the Recent User Contributions page in
a few hours.  That particular project is on hold for the moment, as my
need for it has been pushed out for a year or two.  Feel free to use and
modify any relevant parts.

Mike Sabal

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6. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

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> I thought about creating something similar (and have to a certain degree)
> using EuGrid.  What I would like to see:
> 
> 1. Ability to have a small block for each day with smaller colored blocks
> showing appointments, etc.  Much like the desktop app that comes with a
> Palm pilot.
> 2. Ability to switch between a week or month view.
> 3. Ability to set the background color for a specific day.
> 4. Tooltip that shows appointment detail when hovering over a day.
> 5. Ability to select a from/to date.
> 
> Is that too much to ask?

Certainly not! I've been working on just such a program. I've attached
a jpg screen shot of it, and it's only in the intitial stages, but
i'll add your suggestions to my list.

~Greg

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7. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Mike Sabal wrote:
> 
> I've just uploaded a project I was working on last year that contains
> multiple "Day Planner" views, similar to what you see in the Palm
> desktop.  It uses the standard MonthCalendar controls built into
> win32lib.  Look for "LPlanner" on the Recent User Contributions page in
> a few hours.

Wow!! Awesome job!

Matt, you should port that to wxEuphoria. :)

-=ck
"Programming in a state of EUPHORIA."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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8. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Al,

Looks very good, but I'd like to see week numbers as well. If you decide
to go with my proposal, pls. remember that there are different views - 
depending on what country - what is really the first week nr.

Kenneth aka ZNorQ.

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9. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

cklester wrote:
> 
> Mike Sabal wrote:
> > 
> > I've just uploaded a project I was working on last year that contains
> > multiple "Day Planner" views, similar to what you see in the Palm
> > desktop.  It uses the standard MonthCalendar controls built into
> > win32lib.  Look for "LPlanner" on the Recent User Contributions page in
> > a few hours.
> 
> Wow!! Awesome job!
> 
> Matt, you should port that to wxEuphoria. :)
> 

Oh, reeealllly....Actually, I guess I've been ignoring it, but there is
a wxCalendarCtrl.  I'll take a look at it.

Matt Lewis

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10. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Jonas Temple wrote:

> My 2 cents...
> 
> I thought about creating something similar (and have to a certain degree)
> using EuGrid.  What I would like to see:
> 
> 1. Ability to have a small block for each day with smaller colored blocks
> showing appointments, etc.  Much like the desktop app that comes with a 
> Palm pilot.
> 2. Ability to switch between a week or month view.
> 3. Ability to set the background color for a specific day.
> 4. Tooltip that shows appointment detail when hovering over a day.
> 5. Ability to select a from/to date.
> 
> Is that too much to ask?
> 
> Jonas Temple
> <a href="http://www.yhti.net/~jktemple">http://www.yhti.net/~jktemple</a>
> 

Hi again Jonas,

I really liked your other ideas but im not sure i want to download
that thing just to find out what you meant by #1 above.  Perhaps you
could give a short description of what #1 does and looks like.

Thanks again,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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11. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Mike Sabal wrote:
> 
> >>> guest at RapidEuphoria.com 03/02/2005 12:45:56 PM >>>
> Well, the desktop app is free, even if you don't own a Palm.  To see
> what
> I mean, you can download at:
> 
> <a
> href="http://www.palmone.com/us/software/desktop/">http://www.palmone.com/us/software/desktop/</a>
>
> 
> Jonas Temple
> <a href="http://www.yhti.net/~jktemple">http://www.yhti.net/~jktemple</a> 
> 
> -----------
> 
> I've just uploaded a project I was working on last year that contains
> multiple "Day Planner" views, similar to what you see in the Palm
> desktop.  It uses the standard MonthCalendar controls built into
> win32lib.  Look for "LPlanner" on the Recent User Contributions page in
> a few hours.  That particular project is on hold for the moment, as my
> need for it has been pushed out for a year or two.  Feel free to use and
> modify any relevant parts.
> 
> Mike Sabal
> 
> 

Hi Mike,

Looks very nice.


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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12. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Greg Haberek wrote:
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> 
> > I thought about creating something similar (and have to a certain degree)
> > using EuGrid.  What I would like to see:
> > 
> > 1. Ability to have a small block for each day with smaller colored blocks
> > showing appointments, etc.  Much like the desktop app that comes with a
> > Palm pilot.
> > 2. Ability to switch between a week or month view.
> > 3. Ability to set the background color for a specific day.
> > 4. Tooltip that shows appointment detail when hovering over a day.
> > 5. Ability to select a from/to date.
> > 
> > Is that too much to ask?
> 
> Certainly not! I've been working on just such a program. I've attached
> a jpg screen shot of it, and it's only in the intitial stages, but
> i'll add your suggestions to my list.
> 
> ~Greg
> 
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Hi Greg,

If you could post a url that would be great, as myself and probably
others dont have the attachment.


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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13. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

ZNorQ wrote:
> 
> Al,
> 
> Looks very good, but I'd like to see week numbers as well. If you decide
> to go with my proposal, pls. remember that there are different views - 
> depending on what country - what is really the first week nr.
> 
> Kenneth aka ZNorQ.
> 

Hi there Kenneth,

Sounds good to me, but perhaps you can illustrate the different views
you are talking about.  A graphic or explanation would help.


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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14. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

> If you could post a url that would be great, as myself and probably
> others dont have the attachment.

Usually I do, but for some reason my web host server, 000k2.com, is
not working, *at all*. These people were doing great until they
stopped working. So when it starts working again, I'll post a pic.

~Greg

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15. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Hi again Greg,

Ok great.  Until then maybe you can describe it a little.
I checked my email for topica stuff and it didnt appear there either
so whatever you can come up with would be appreciated.


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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16. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Al Getz wrote:
> 
> ZNorQ wrote:
> > 
> > Al,
> > 
> > Looks very good, but I'd like to see week numbers as well. If you decide
> > to go with my proposal, pls. remember that there are different views - 
> > depending on what country - what is really the first week nr.
> > 
> > Kenneth aka ZNorQ.
> > 
> 
> Hi there Kenneth,
> 
> Sounds good to me, but perhaps you can illustrate the different views
> you are talking about.  A graphic or explanation would help.
> 
Well, I tried modifying your view by adding the week numbers to the left
of the calendar. Never mind the details and layout, it's just a draft 
proposal. I sent it on an email to you as I'm not so lucky to put it on
a public server.. (PS! If you look at the picture, the heading says 'We' 
(Cut'n paste from 'wednesday'. I propose perhaps 'Wk' instead..)

Oh, by the way, would it be easy for you to also include a parameter that
would set Monday as the first day of week too? 

Ken.

> 
> Take care,
> Al
> 
> And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!
> 
> My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
>

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17. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Hi Ken,

Yes i see your drawing is very nice and clear enough to see what
you meant...thanks.  I think the standard MS MonthCalendar class has
that (week number showing just before each week on the cal) too 
doesnt it?  I think set with a style flag or something.
I like that too, even though it takes up a tiny bit more room.

I was trying to reserve the color red for 'hot' appointments though,
and im sure another color would be just as good for the week numbers.


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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18. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Al Getz wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Ken,
> 
> Yes i see your drawing is very nice and clear enough to see what
> you meant...thanks.  I think the standard MS MonthCalendar class has
> that (week number showing just before each week on the cal) too 
> doesnt it?  I think set with a style flag or something.

What I do know is that MS outlook uses weeknumbers in it's calendar class,
but I'm not sure if it's the standard MS MonthCalendar class. I haven't been
able to use week numbers with the standard MonthCalendar class..
And yes, the weeknumbers is showing up like you described above.

The styleflag sounds good. Maybe include a style turning off the weekno's
for those who doesn't need it?

> I like that too, even though it takes up a tiny bit more room.
Hehe, well hopefully it won't be a big problem.

> 
> I was trying to reserve the color red for 'hot' appointments though,
> and im sure another color would be just as good for the week numbers.
> 
No arguments there. My intention was to give you an example, and red for
'hot' appointments sounds good. It's your call. :)
> 
> Take care,
> Al
> 
> And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!
> 
> My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
>

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19. Re: New Calendar -- Dont like MS MonthCalendar!

Hi again Ken,


ZNorQ wrote:
> 
> Al Getz wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Ken,
> > 
> > Yes i see your drawing is very nice and clear enough to see what
> > you meant...thanks.  I think the standard MS MonthCalendar class has
> > that (week number showing just before each week on the cal) too 
> > doesnt it?  I think set with a style flag or something.
> 
> What I do know is that MS outlook uses weeknumbers in it's calendar class,
> but I'm not sure if it's the standard MS MonthCalendar class. I haven't been
> able to use week numbers with the standard MonthCalendar class..
> And yes, the weeknumbers is showing up like you described above.
> 
> The styleflag sounds good. Maybe include a style turning off the weekno's
> for those who doesn't need it?

Here's the flag for the standard MS MonthCalendar:
  MCS_WEEKNUMBERS

> 
> > I like that too, even though it takes up a tiny bit more room.
> Hehe, well hopefully it won't be a big problem.

Nah, probably not that bad.  Im also deciding where/how to put in
control buttons or something like that to control stuff like font
size, set/reset day (for appt's), etc.  The whole cal has to be
resized when the font changes so there has to be some room to
the right and below the cal window.

> 
> > 
> > I was trying to reserve the color red for 'hot' appointments though,
> > and im sure another color would be just as good for the week numbers.
> > 
> No arguments there. My intention was to give you an example, and red for
> 'hot' appointments sounds good. It's your call. :)

Yeah i thought you wouldnt care that much about the color.
Perhaps an option to change color scheme or 'themes' or something.



Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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