1. Enhanced IDE & Windows Vista

I've recently discovered Euphoria but am having difficulties running the
Enhanced
IDE on Windows Vista. The program opens correctly but the various windows and
tools
only intermittently respond to the various mouse actions making the program
unusable.

I suspect this is a Vista-specific problem. Any help would be much appreciated.

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2. Re: Enhanced IDE & Windows Vista

Mike Blenkiron wrote:
> 
> I've recently discovered Euphoria but am having difficulties running the
> Enhanced
> 
> IDE on Windows Vista. The program opens correctly but the various windows and
> tools 
> only intermittently respond to the various mouse actions making the program
> unusable.
> 
> I suspect this is a Vista-specific problem. Any help would be much
> appreciated.

Hi Mike,

Thanks for trying IDE. Did you download and use IDEWin32lib.zip? None of the
Win32lib v0.60.6 work with IDE.

judith evans

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3. Re: Enhanced IDE & Windows Vista

Judith Evans wrote:
> Mike Blenkiron wrote:
> > 
> > I've recently discovered Euphoria but am having difficulties running the
> > Enhanced
> > 
> > IDE on Windows Vista. The program opens correctly but the various windows
> > and
> > tools 
> > only intermittently respond to the various mouse actions making the program
> > unusable.
> > 
> > I suspect this is a Vista-specific problem. Any help would be much
> > appreciated.
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Thanks for trying IDE. Did you download and use IDEWin32lib.zip? None of the
> Win32lib v0.60.6 work with IDE.

The IDE works fine for me on Vista.
I have the "recent patches applied" contained
in IDEWin32lib.zip.

I wish someone would create a new Win32Lib package 
that has these patches already,
so newbies don't have to do this manually.

It has now been almost 3 years since
the last official release of Win32Lib
from Derek. I think it's time that
someone else took over Win32Lib.

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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4. Re: Enhanced IDE & Windows Vista

Robert Craig wrote:
> It has now been almost 3 years since
> the last official release of Win32Lib
> from Derek. I think it's time that
> someone else took over Win32Lib.

Agreed. I'll upload the most recent version I've got and then be gone. Give me a
few hours to do that.

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
Skype name: derek.j.parnell

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5. Re: Enhanced IDE & Windows Vista

Derek Parnell wrote:
> Robert Craig wrote:
> > It has now been almost 3 years since
> > the last official release of Win32Lib
> > from Derek. I think it's time that
> > someone else took over Win32Lib.
> Agreed. I'll upload the most recent version I've got and then be gone. Give
> me a few hours to do that.

I thought Christian had taken the reins. No?

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6. Re: Enhanced IDE & Windows Vista

c.k.lester wrote:
> 
> Derek Parnell wrote:
> > Robert Craig wrote:
> > > It has now been almost 3 years since
> > > the last official release of Win32Lib
> > > from Derek. I think it's time that
> > > someone else took over Win32Lib.
> > Agreed. I'll upload the most recent version I've got and then be gone. Give
> > me a few hours to do that.
> 
> I thought Christian had taken the reins. No?

I think he was doing more work than anyone [recently], but he was deferring 
to Derek as far as what code would be made official, doing releases, etc.  
Right now we have Derek, myself and David Cuny (the original author) listed 
as admins on the SF project.  I think CChris is the logical heir, since he's 
probably been doing the most with the code, but I'm not suggesting we
force the role upon him.

Matt

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7. Re: Enhanced IDE & Windows Vista

Matt Lewis wrote:
> 
> c.k.lester wrote:
> > 
> > Derek Parnell wrote:
> > > Robert Craig wrote:
> > > > It has now been almost 3 years since
> > > > the last official release of Win32Lib
> > > > from Derek. I think it's time that
> > > > someone else took over Win32Lib.
> > > Agreed. I'll upload the most recent version I've got and then be gone.
> > > Give
> > > me a few hours to do that.
> > 
> > I thought Christian had taken the reins. No?
> 
> I think he was doing more work than anyone [recently], but he was deferring
> 
> to Derek as far as what code would be made official, doing releases, etc.  
> Right now we have Derek, myself and David Cuny (the original author) listed
> 
> as admins on the SF project.  I think CChris is the logical heir, since he's
> 
> probably been doing the most with the code, but I'm not suggesting we
> force the role upon him.
> 
> Matt

Indeed, I have fixed a number of bugs and made quite a few additions. I had
posted a change log a few months ago; it has marginally evolved since then.
I can upload it again.

I for sure have started getting some good knowledge of the innards of win32lib.
Taking over - why should it be a one man project at any given time? - implies
there is a road map to the next release and to the next releases.

Unless Derek objects to some of the code I supplied, the former is quite well
known, except for the stuff he is mixing in, and which he hasn't detailed much -
or I didn't get the email; bigpond.com seems to have an overaggressive anti spam
policy.

I think that Derek, Judith, me and all testers for "patch #67" version still
active should exchange some email so as to:
* define a final content and timetable for the next release;
* make available an IDE which works with the official lib on all supported
Windows flavors;
* define what the environment for development is, and how open it would be.
There is a SF project, but it seems pretty outdated.

Otherwise, some discussion, either on the SF site or here, should start so as to
agree on the sort of further developments that are desired. Some topics I'd
introduce are:
* remove support for the old onXXX syntax?
* introduce features that won't work, or be easily emulated, on all versions of
Windows? (transparency, XP/Vista tiled ListViews, and so on)
* raise the compatibility bar to Windows 98? or 2000? This would allow
simplifying some code and make some more efficient
* start wrapping GdiPlus.dll?
* should there be a more or less regular time frame for lib updates? skipping
one now and then would be allowable, as long as it remains "now and then".

While I probably have had more spare time than Derek these days, taking care of
the project is still a spare time thing, with all the known delays that go with
this.

For consistency reasons, it may be a good thing that I take over only after the
next release, unless this would lead us too far in the future, in which case I'd
handle the next release.

Please use zc2004oe hat gmail dhot com for email on this - Derek seems to get my
emails from there, so it could be the most reliable way. Any feedback that need
will be posted here either for informtion or consultation.

CChris

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8. Re: Enhanced IDE & Windows Vista

CChris wrote:
> * remove support for the old onXXX syntax?

I've just uploaded v0.70.2 to SourceForge that removes onXXX interface support.

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
Skype name: derek.j.parnell

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9. Re: Enhanced IDE & Windows Vista

Hi Judith,

Many thanks for the information - the program works perfectly now.

Mike.

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