1. X Windows Development
I had to dump Linux from my machine a while back, because of limited hard
disk space. I'd like to start working on the X Window portion of my portable
window library, so I'm wondering if anyone could suggest a distro. Requested
features:
1. Uses DOS partition
2. Small footprint
3. Runs X Windows
4. Runs Euphoria
5. Easy for Linux idiot like me to install
I've browsed around and found LoopLinux, muLinux and Small Linux. I don't
need any fancy desktop manager or anything - I'll be writing directly to
XLib, not GTK/Gnome/Qt/KDE or anything like that. Plain VGA driver would be
fine.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
-- David Cuny
2. Re: X Windows Development
I have LoopLinux which runs well, sets up quickly on a Pentium, and can be =
run with as little as 20MB hard drive space. Of course, the best part is =
that it runs Euph. 2.2 like a dream. I haven't bothered to load X on my =
laptop, but it seems to run well on my desktop. Haven't used X much, =
though, so maybe someone else has a different story.=20
HTH,
Michael J. Sabal
>>> dcuny at LANSET.COM 03/28/00 12:09PM >>>
I had to dump Linux from my machine a while back, because of limited hard
disk space. I'd like to start working on the X Window portion of my =
portable
window library, so I'm wondering if anyone could suggest a distro. =
Requested
features:
3. Re: X Windows Development
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Cuny" <dcuny at LANSET.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 11:09 AM
Subject: X Windows Development
> I had to dump Linux from my machine a while back, because of limited hard
> disk space. I'd like to start working on the X Window portion of my
portable
> window library,
Prime example of something i mentioned earlier.... Robert, send David a new
puter, please.
Kat,
laughing at her own audacity.
4. Re: X Windows Development
Kat wrote:
> Robert, send David a new puter, please.
Can I get one of those reconfigured i-openers?
Darn.... Robert can't get those 'cause he's in Canada. [hehehehe]
-- David Cuny
5. Re: X Windows Development
Mike Sabal wrote:
> LoopLinux
Thanks, I'll have a go at that.
-- David Cuny
6. Re: X Windows Development
LoopLinux, previously known as DosLinux gets my vote.
It fits all 5 of your requirement perfectly.
muLinux and Small Linux use a UMSDOS filesystem, not a native ext2
filesystem like LoopLinux. UMSDOS can be slow and cranky sometimes, and can
cause more headaches than if you'd just repartitioned your hard drive in the
first place.
But the main advantage to LoopLinux: I've been using it since the first
public beta, and if you've got a problem with it, I've probably seen it =)
If you do decide to go that route, get in touch with me privately if you
find you have any problems.
Regards,
Greg Phillips
From: David Cuny <dcuny at LANSET.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 9:09 AM
Subject: X Windows Development
> I had to dump Linux from my machine a while back, because of limited hard
> disk space. I'd like to start working on the X Window portion of my
portable
> window library, so I'm wondering if anyone could suggest a distro.
Requested
> features:
>
> 1. Uses DOS partition
> 2. Small footprint
> 3. Runs X Windows
> 4. Runs Euphoria
> 5. Easy for Linux idiot like me to install
>
> I've browsed around and found LoopLinux, muLinux and Small Linux. I don't
> need any fancy desktop manager or anything - I'll be writing directly to
> XLib, not GTK/Gnome/Qt/KDE or anything like that. Plain VGA driver would
be
> fine.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- David Cuny
7. Re: X Windows Development
- Posted by David Cuny <dcuny at LANSET.COM>
Mar 28, 2000
-
Last edited Mar 29, 2000
OK, I've got LoopLinux up and running. The Midnight Commander program is
wonderful; it saved me hours and hours.
I've also got X Windows up and limping. There's a problem with fonts in SVGA
mode, but that's some sort of conflict between XFree86 and my video card. I
can get by in VGA mode for now.
The real problem I'm encountering is my mouse: it doesn't move at all! It's
a PS/2 mouse. I suspect the problem stems from the adapter - it's also got 2
USB ports on it, although it worked just fine under Mandrake. I've run
xf86config with all the other mouse options, and none of them work, either.
Any ideas? Is there any way to probe for a mouse?
Thanks!
-- David Cuny
8. Re: X Windows Development
Perhaps you need a different version of gpm. Also, make sure /dev/mouse =
is pointing to the correct port. It generally defaults to /dev/ttyS0, =
which is rarely where PS/2 mice are located.
>>> dcuny at LANSET.COM 03/29/00 02:39AM >>>
Any ideas? Is there any way to probe for a mouse?
Thanks!
-- David Cuny
9. Re: X Windows Development
Mike Sabal wrote:
> Also, make sure /dev/mouse is pointing to the correct port.
> It generally defaults to /dev/ttyS0, which is rarely where PS/2
> mice are located.
Thanks; that's hopefully it.
-- David Cuny
10. Re: X Windows Development
I should have asked this the first time:
1. where can i find a different version of gpm for LoopLinux?
2. what port should /dev/mouse be pointing to?
I'm guessing that the PS/2 port it detects when it boots is the *dead* PS/2
port on my machine. As I mentioned before, I added a card that includes a
PS/2 port and two USB ports, which seemed to work just fine under Red Hat.
Assuming that it's pointing to the wrong one, how do I change to the correct
PS/2 port? Remember, I'm a Linux newbie.
Thanks!
-- David Cuny
11. Re: X Windows Development
Never mind - I ran comset and it detected it correctly. Woo!
Thanks for everyone's help.
-- David Cuny
12. Re: X Windows Development
PS2 uses interrupt 12 in case you need that information
13. Re: X Windows Development
Does anyone know why the links to looplinux are broken or am I
using a old link ?
Bernie
14. Re: X Windows Development
This link works:
>>> xotron at BUFFNET.NET 03/29/00 10:41AM >>>
Does anyone know why the links to looplinux are broken or am I
using a old link ?
Bernie
15. Re: X Windows Development
Bernie Ryan wrote:
> Does anyone know why the links to looplinux
> are broken or am I using a old link ?
Could you supply the link you are using? I ran into a similar problem, but
eventually found a site that worked.
-- David Cuny
16. Re: X Windows Development
The same webpage that mike just posted has broken links on it.
I read that looplinux has a new name looplynux maybe that is why ?
Dave did you take a look at vectorlinux which is scalable and can
use things from other distros. Thay may be better for developing and
testing compatibilty with other packages. It's a 60 meg d\l. I looked
at the beos and it looks like requires to much specialize hardware
like certain motherboards, and etc. and is directed toward mutlmedia.
I don't think the average person on the list runs this hardware.
We'll have to see what pete has to say about it.
Bernie
17. Re: X Windows Development
Bernie wrote:
> Dave did you take a look at vectorlinux
> which is scalable and can use things from
> other distros.
No, this is the first I've heard of this. I looked at LoopLinux, muLinux and
Lizard Linux. I initially tried downloading LoopLinux, but kept getting 'the
server sent extended information', which means that there was an error
message MSIE was too stupid to display. So I downloaded Lizard Linux, but
couldn't get that working. I got LoopLinux loaded later in the afternoon.
I'm not that worried about that. The only library that I have to link to is
libx11.so, and I don't even have to specify the path. Hopefully, it will be
pretty idiot proof. If I was working with GTK or Qt, there'd be a lot more
to worry about.
It's good to hear that the BeOS allows DLLs; I was a bit worried about it.
If PEU can be made to work under the Mac, the best that could be done would
be to write a link_trap routine or some such.
-- David Cuny
18. Re: X Windows Development
That site is Kent Robotti's main site. Any other ones you see are mirrors,
and likely aren't up to date.
Greg Phillips
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Sabal <MikeS at NOTATIONS.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: X Windows Development
This link works:
>>> xotron at BUFFNET.NET 03/29/00 10:41AM >>>
Does anyone know why the links to looplinux are broken or am I
using a old link ?
Bernie
19. Re: X Windows Development
The Web site sends back errors when you click on the links but
if I keep trying I finally get through, must be sun spots.
Thanks
Bernie
