1. EU Designer - request and suggestion
Brian,
I love EU Designer, but I have a couple of simple ideas. Hopefully, they're
not also simple-minded.
First, it would be really, really, really helpful if you would have a button
or something so that you could add code outside of the controls. What I
would like to see specifically is a button/menu that calls up the code
editor, and allows you to type in all the code you want to go in after
win32lib.ew and before the constant declaration for the main form. I use
this area to add additional include files, and I'd love to be able to do
this from within EUD. It also seems fairly trivial.
Related to that, I personally would like to see the window constant
declaration with its assorted controls saved to a separate file, and then
added to the main program by use of an include. I have a few reasons to
believe this is a better way to do it. Here they are, and please correct me
if I'm not thinking clearly:
1) It treats the window and controls more like resources for the program.
That way if you want to change just the window and controls, you can include
a different file, and not have to copy your program logic.
2) Similarly, if you want to re-use your main window and controls in several
different projects, it becomes a matter of just adding them as includes to
the main program.
3) It seems like it would make it easier to add a button/something to EUD to
allow use of controls/windows previously created in EUD to different
projects, which seems desirable to me.
4) It makes the program more modularized.
I know EUD isn't a true IDE - yet - and maybe these couple changes are
outside the scope of what you're wanting to do, but I think there might be
some merit to them. If anyone disagrees (or agrees), I'd love to know why.
Sherm
2. Re: EU Designer - request and suggestion
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:31:47 -0500, SR Williamson <sr.williamson at OSHA.GOV>
wrote:
>Brian,
>I love EU Designer, but I have a couple of simple ideas. Hopefully, they're
>not also simple-minded.
>
>First, it would be really, really, really helpful if you would have a
button
> or something so that you could add code outside of the controls. What I
>would like to see specifically is a button/menu that calls up the code
>editor, and allows you to type in all the code you want to go in after
>win32lib.ew and before the constant declaration for the main form. I use
>this area to add additional include files, and I'd love to be able to do
>this from within EUD. It also seems fairly trivial.
I've had a couple of requests to do this. At this time it is still a
little outside of the scope of EuDesigner. I would definitely like to do
something like this, but when I do, I want to do it properly, which means
creating modularized source code. You'll notice that in the source code
for EuD, I've broken out lots of things into include files (such as
constant declarations, Win32Lib objects, etc.) One of the caveats I've run
into is that I find an occasional need to use call_proc()/call_func() in
order to get everything to work correctly. So I guess the bottom line is
that yes, it is easy to do, but there are other things that need to be put
into place before this can happen.
>Related to that, I personally would like to see the window constant
>declaration with its assorted controls saved to a separate file, and then
>added to the main program by use of an include. I have a few reasons to
>believe this is a better way to do it. Here they are, and please correct me
>if I'm not thinking clearly:
>1) It treats the window and controls more like resources for the program.
>That way if you want to change just the window and controls, you can
include
>a different file, and not have to copy your program logic.
>2) Similarly, if you want to re-use your main window and controls in
several
>different projects, it becomes a matter of just adding them as includes to
>the main program.
>3) It seems like it would make it easier to add a button/something to EUD
to
>allow use of controls/windows previously created in EUD to different
>projects, which seems desirable to me.
>4) It makes the program more modularized.
>
I agree for the reasons you stated, and as you'll notice, I did the same
thing by hand when I started coding EuD. But, for the same reasons as
above, I'm not yet ready to start modularizing the whole process yet.
>I know EUD isn't a true IDE - yet - and maybe these couple changes are
>outside the scope of what you're wanting to do, but I think there might be
>some merit to them. If anyone disagrees (or agrees), I'd love to know why.
>Sherm
I do like your suggestions, and my overall goal is to someday provide a
full fledged IDE that has a project manager and all that bully stuff. But
for now, I'm still trying to figure out how to make the controls respond
properly, and make some of the controls (groupbox) work at all. Add to
that all the attributes I haven't even thought about yet (tooltips and
font, for example), and I'll have my hands full for awhile yet.
Brian
3. Re: EU Designer - request and suggestion
EuDesigner is very impressive. I have one suggestion that you
do not do registry modifications without telling and asking the
user for permission before doing them in your install.
