1. the jok3r...
why is everyone judging me by the label that is put in front of me.
If i were to attack any of these websites, or release a virus, I
could of done it in another language. I'm willing to bet that if I
were to ask this question but NOT say that I was a hacker, you would
all gladly respond, but guess what? I didn't, and I won't. I believe
in what I do and I take pride in it. as for questions on behalf of my
christianity: Who are you to judge me? Also, i believe in no god, no
heaven, and any other way you'd refer to it.
And: to Michael Nelson:
Is it my fault you bought winzip(ICQ/Need for speed 3/etc.)? No.
Am I asking you to crack winzip(ICQ/Need for speed 3/etc.)? No.
Ami I asking/implying anyone to do as I did? No.
All text files there are for you to read and follow IF you wish.
<<SARCASTIC>> Thanks for your help..
Other than Brian, no one else offered to help, and for that I am
pleased because knowing you people, I would of probably just got
spammed.
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2. Re: the jok3r...
I personally am sorry for the lack of response, mainly because everyone was
either attacking you or defending you.
As far as I know, the only way to delete multiple files at once in euphoria
is to use shell("del whatever.*") or whatever suits.
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: The Jok3r <Jok3r at GHA.ZZN.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 1:53 PM
Subject: the jok3r...
> why is everyone judging me by the label that is put in front of me.
> If i were to attack any of these websites, or release a virus, I
> could of done it in another language. I'm willing to bet that if I
> were to ask this question but NOT say that I was a hacker, you would
> all gladly respond, but guess what? I didn't, and I won't. I believe
> in what I do and I take pride in it. as for questions on behalf of my
> christianity: Who are you to judge me? Also, i believe in no god, no
> heaven, and any other way you'd refer to it.
>
> And: to Michael Nelson:
> Is it my fault you bought winzip(ICQ/Need for speed 3/etc.)? No.
> Am I asking you to crack winzip(ICQ/Need for speed 3/etc.)? No.
> Ami I asking/implying anyone to do as I did? No.
> All text files there are for you to read and follow IF you wish.
>
> <<SARCASTIC>> Thanks for your help..
>
> Other than Brian, no one else offered to help, and for that I am
> pleased because knowing you people, I would of probably just got
> spammed.
>
> --
> Jok3r
>
>
> Get you free email at http://gha.zzn.com and visit us at
http://gha.cjb.net
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>
>
3. Re: the jok3r...
Maybe you're missing the point, the fact that YOU are a HACKER and the name
HACKER usallay implies that HACKERS DO BAD THINGS whatever you do as a
hacker is beyond me due to lack of information, wether it's cracking
shareware/demo software to virus programming. if it's virus programming
you're in,then YOU ARE THE SPAWN OF SATAN.
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4. Re: the jok3r...
NO! A cracker is someone who deliberately does damage to computers, a Hacker
is someone who tries to breach the security of a system for the challenge of
it, and is often a useful guide to plugging security holes, esp. when they
are considerate enough to leave a message explaining the security problem.
DONT get the two confused.
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Smith <whoisian at HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: the jok3r...
> Maybe you're missing the point, the fact that YOU are a HACKER and the
name
> HACKER usallay implies that HACKERS DO BAD THINGS whatever you do as a
> hacker is beyond me due to lack of information, wether it's cracking
> shareware/demo software to virus programming. if it's virus programming
> you're in,then YOU ARE THE SPAWN OF SATAN.
>
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5. Re: the jok3r...
Nick Johnson wrote:
>
> NO! A cracker is someone who deliberately does damage to computers, a Hacker
> is someone who tries to breach the security of a system for the challenge of
I once had a discussion with someone who considered himself a hacker as
to what the definition of "hacker" actually was. He said he was a
hacker in the "old" sense of the term, that he tried to reverse engineer
file formats*. To the best of my knowledge, he's the only one who uses
that definition (others would consider him a hacker anyway because of
some of his reasonably impressive projects in VB and Java, including a
complete IRC-like chat system in Java, but I'm getting off topic here.)
IMHO, the term "Hacker" is so misused and vague that it no longer holds
any reasonable definition. I've heard at least 5 definitions so far,
and they're all slightly different. The term "Cracker", however, is
much more specific, and leaves very little to the imagination.
*How anyone could consider this "hacking" is beyond me. It's
impressive, but it's not hacking under any other definition I've heard
of.
--
"I'm looking for something in Red.
Something that's shocking, to turn someone's head.
[snip lotsa lines for Euphoria List]
I'm looking for something in RED!
I've got to have something in Red."
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6. Re: the jok3r...
To me, a "Cracker" is a piece of toasted bread, with cheese, or fish meat,
or paté.
Especially nice at small parties and receptions, with a drink, but nothing
to get mad about.
kwibus
----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: RedWordSmith <redwordsmith at NIC.DREAMHOST.COM>
Aan: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Verzonden: dinsdag 7 maart 2000 21:42
Onderwerp: Re: the jok3r...
> The term "Cracker", however, is
> much more specific, and leaves very little to the imagination.
7. Re: the jok3r...
- Posted by Caballero Rojo <pampeano at ROCKETMAIL.COM>
Mar 07, 2000
-
Last edited Mar 08, 2000
Hello Nick,
A cracker have to definitions. One is yours and the other is Ian
Smith's explanation.
--
Best regards, ICQ Number: 3198249
Caballero Rojo mailto:pampeano at rocketmail.com
Tuesday, March 07, 2000, 4:34:57 PM, you wrote:
NJ> NO! A cracker is someone who deliberately does damage to computers, a Hacker
NJ> is someone who tries to breach the security of a system for the challenge of
NJ> it, and is often a useful guide to plugging security holes, esp. when they
NJ> are considerate enough to leave a message explaining the security problem.
NJ> DONT get the two confused.
NJ> Nick
NJ> ----- Original Message -----
NJ> From: Ian Smith <whoisian at HOTMAIL.COM>
NJ> To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
NJ> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 3:33 PM
NJ> Subject: Re: the jok3r...
>> Maybe you're missing the point, the fact that YOU are a HACKER and the
NJ> name
>> HACKER usallay implies that HACKERS DO BAD THINGS whatever you do as a
>> hacker is beyond me due to lack of information, wether it's cracking
>> shareware/demo software to virus programming. if it's virus programming
>> you're in,then YOU ARE THE SPAWN OF SATAN.
>>
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8. Re: the jok3r...
Thus spake Ian Smith on Tue, 7 Mar 2000:
>then YOU ARE THE SPAWN OF SATAN.
And Jesus died for him. And this is the Euphoria list, unless I'm grossly
mistaken. C'mon, Ian, if you've got a problem with this guy write him personally
but keep us out of it, okay?
Zaph.
9. Re: the jok3r...
> Thus spake Ian Smith on Tue, 7 Mar 2000:
> >then YOU ARE THE SPAWN OF SATAN.
>
> And Jesus died for him. And this is the Euphoria list, unless I'm grossly
> mistaken. C'mon, Ian, if you've got a problem with this guy write him
personally
> but keep us out of it, okay?
>
> Zaph.
Hi Zaph,
Just a quick note to say way to go. . . . . . . I have a soon to be
brother in Law who uses that same name, Are you by any chance in Vancouver
area?
10. Re: the jok3r...
- Posted by Kat <gertie at ZEBRA.NET>
Mar 08, 2000
-
Last edited Mar 09, 2000
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <zaphod_beeblebrox at SIL.ORG>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: the jok3r...
> Thus spake Ian Smith on Tue, 7 Mar 2000:
> >then YOU ARE THE SPAWN OF SATAN.
>
> And Jesus died for him. And this is the Euphoria list, unless I'm grossly
> mistaken. C'mon, Ian, if you've got a problem with this guy write him
personally
> but keep us out of it, okay?
Jesus who?
Kat
