1. Do it yourself! :-)

Goodbye, unreliable mail delivery by Topica (I unsubscribed yesterday),
goodbye unreliable handling of RSS feeds by Thunderbird. I wrote my own
RSS program yesterday. smile

It calls wget for downloading the desired XML files, then it parses the
files (using the good XML library 'eebax' by Thomas Parslow), and saves
each new item of the RSS feed as separate mail file in the appropriate
directory of my local mail server.

wget -- as well as the Eu program smile -- is fast and reliable. The
program works, but it is currently in pre-alpha stage. When it is more
mature, I'll probably send it to the User Contributions Page.

ATM I just had to tell what a good feeling it is to live without Topica.
smile

Regards,
   Juergen

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2. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

> ATM I just had to tell what a good feeling it is to live without Topica.

I've been considering dropping it as well. Hmm... an RSS client, eh?
Sounds like wget = "linux only" to me. Perhaps I could whip up a
Windows version once I get xControls stable and ready (Jonas Temple
keeps finding bugs in it! :-p )...

~Greg

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3. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

theres a win32 port of wget,heres the url: http://users.ugent.be/~bpuype/wget/

Damo
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4. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

Greg Haberek wrote:

>> ATM I just had to tell what a good feeling it is to live without Topica.
> 
> I've been considering dropping it as well. Hmm... an RSS client, eh?
> Sounds like wget = "linux only" to me.

I'm using current version 1.10.2 for Windows (Damien gave an URL for download),
and it works fine. wget has a ton of options. Especially interesting is -N,
so that the desired XML files will only be downloaded if they have changed.

Regards,
   Juergen

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5. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

Juergen Luethje wrote:
> I wrote my own RSS program yesterday. smile
ooh, ooh, please sir, can I apply for beta testing!

I think an integrated RSS client inside Edita would be rather nice blink

Regards,
Pete
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6. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

petelomax wrote:

> Juergen Luethje wrote:
>> I wrote my own RSS program yesterday. smile
> ooh, ooh, please sir, can I apply for beta testing!

You're welcome!
Currently the program is at pre-alpha stage (although it does it's daily
work here to read 3 RSS feeds). That's why I haven't sent it to the User
Contributions Page yet. E.g. there is almost no documentation ATM. The
program is pretty simple, though.

Do you want to wait for a beta version or do you want to get the current
version?

> I think an integrated RSS client inside Edita would be rather nice blink

Nice!

Regards,
   Juergen

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7. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:04:38 -0800, "Juergen Luethje"
<guest at RapidEuphoria.com> said:

> Do you want to wait for a beta version or do you want to get the 
> current version?

Erm, *NOW* would be better! blink)
Email me a copy?

Regards,
Pete
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8. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

petelomax wrote:

> Erm, *NOW* would be better! blink)
> Email me a copy?

Done. smile

Regards,
   Juergen

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Beethoven lost.

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9. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

Hi,
I was wondering what the features will be? I use Thunderbird and the main
 downfall is that I can't minimise it to the system tray and when there is another
 message it does beep - will your RSS reader do this?

Alex

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10. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

> I was wondering what the features will be? I use Thunderbird and the main
> downfall
> is that I can't minimise it to the system tray and when there is another
> message
> it does beep - will your RSS reader do this?

As I wrote in the first message of this thread, Thunderbird does read
RSS feeds on my system *not reliably*. This is the main disadvantage,
of course. For instance, Thunderbird here does not read the feed
<http://www.rapideuphoria.com/usercont.xml> at all. Now with my
programm 'rss2mail' I get it (of course), and it's really nice to have.
BTW: Thanks, Rob and Junko! smile

There are other points ... And generally speaking, why should it be
necessary to have a "special" program in order to read RSS feeds. I like
it much more, when I can use any e-mail program to read RSS feeds.
This is not even necessary. Currently you can read the output of
'rss2mail' with any "viewing program" or e.g. with Notepad. This might
be subject to change in the future, though (due to Quoted-Printable
encoded header fields or something).

Also for instance, in the appropriate situation 'rss2mail' will show
this message:
| The following RSS feed(s) consist completely of new items.
| You probably have missed some items, so you might want to
| visit the concerning website(s) in order to read them.
| Check the channel(s) more frequently to avoid this problem.
| ...

I don't think that Thunderbird can do so.

However 'rss2mail' never beeps currently. It is in a very early
pre-alpha stage. When it is more mature, I'll probably send the source
code to the User Contributions page. Then (according to the license that
I'll choose) you probably can make your own changes.

( Probably, much earlier Pete will release an Edita version with such a
  functionality. smile )

Regards,
   Juergen

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11. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

Sorry - I made a mistake - Thunderbird doesn't beep - I was more concerned with
the minimising to system tray!

Alex

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12. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

> Sorry - I made a mistake - Thunderbird doesn't beep - I was more concerned
> with
> the minimising to system tray!

Currently the program runs in the background anyway, and has no GUI at
all. smile
When I'll add a GUI, maybe I'll also provide an option for minimizing to
the system tray, this is easy. But at the moment I actually can't say
what features the program will have on its first release. smile

Regards,
   Juergen

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13. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

Juergen Luethje wrote:
> 
> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> 
> > Sorry - I made a mistake - Thunderbird doesn't beep - I was more concerned
> > with
> > the minimising to system tray!
> 
> Currently the program runs in the background anyway, and has no GUI at
> all. smile
> When I'll add a GUI, maybe I'll also provide an option for minimizing to
> the system tray, this is easy. But at the moment I actually can't say
> what features the program will have on its first release. smile
> 
> Regards,
>    Juergen
> 
> -- 
> Have you read a good program lately?

I think the point is this: with regular mail, Thunderbird has a mail
notification in the system tray. It doesn't do this for RSS feeds when there is
new content. It would be nice to have such a notifier.

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                                                  - Tom Tomorrow

j.

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14. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

Jason Gade wrote:
> 
> Juergen Luethje wrote:
> > 
> > Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> > 
> > > Sorry - I made a mistake - Thunderbird doesn't beep - I was more concerned
> > > with
> > > the minimising to system tray!
> > 
> > Currently the program runs in the background anyway, and has no GUI at
> > all. smile
> > When I'll add a GUI, maybe I'll also provide an option for minimizing to
> > the system tray, this is easy. But at the moment I actually can't say
> > what features the program will have on its first release. smile
> > 
> > Regards,
> >    Juergen
> > 
> > -- 
> > Have you read a good program lately?
> 
> I think the point is this: with regular mail, Thunderbird has a mail
> notification
> in the system tray. It doesn't do this for RSS feeds when there is new
> content.
> It would be nice to have such a notifier.
> 
> --
> "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen."
>                                                   - Tom Tomorrow
> 
> j.

Sort of! I always have Microsft Outlook and Mozilla Thunderbird open - they both
receive messages every 2 minutes, but Thunderbird doesn't tell me at all and I
would like both of them to run in the background rather than up front!

Alex

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15. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

Jason Gade wrote:

> Juergen Luethje wrote:

<snip>

>> at the moment I actually can't say what features the program will have
>> on its first release. smile
> 
> I think the point is this: with regular mail, Thunderbird has a mail
> notification
> in the system tray. It doesn't do this for RSS feeds when there is new
> content.
> It would be nice to have such a notifier.

Of course.
Another possibility of notifying is a voice that says e.g.:
"You've got mai-hail!" <http://www.rapideuphoria.com/uploads/mail.wav>.
This is what I've added already. Also not too bad. smile

Regards,
   Juergen

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16. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

Juergen Luethje wrote:
> 
> Jason Gade wrote:
> 
> > Juergen Luethje wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >> at the moment I actually can't say what features the program will have
> >> on its first release. smile
> > 
> > I think the point is this: with regular mail, Thunderbird has a mail
> > notification
> > in the system tray. It doesn't do this for RSS feeds when there is new
> > content.
> > It would be nice to have such a notifier.
> 
> Of course.
> Another possibility of notifying is a voice that says e.g.:
> "You've got mai-hail!" <<a
> href="http://www.rapideuphoria.com/uploads/mail.wav">http://www.rapideuphoria.com/uploads/mail.wav</a>>.
> This is what I've added already. Also not too bad. smile
> 
> Regards,
>    Juergen
> 
> -- 
> Have you read a good program lately?

This link might be of interest:
http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/rss2email/



Ken Rhodes
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SuSE Linux 10.0
No AddWare, SpyWare, Viruses
Life is Good  :)

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17. Re: Do it yourself! :-)

Kenneth Rhodes wrote:

> Juergen Luethje wrote:

[Euphoria 'rss2mail' program in the works]

> This link might be of interest:
> http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/rss2email/

Thanks!
Now this was my 3rd or 4th try to understand Python, and I failed again.
So if someone would translate that stuff to Euphoria ... smile

Regards,
   Juergen

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