1. Any programs needed..

Could somebody give me a list of programs or libraries that Euphoria needs?
I've been needing a new project.

Later
Jeremy Peterson

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2. Re: Any programs needed..

Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> 
> Could somebody give me a list of programs or libraries that Euphoria needs?
> I've been needing a new project.
> 
> Later
> Jeremy Peterson

A program I started but never had the time for was a Euphoria code beautifier. I
think it'd be quite useful. It reads in a Euphoria source file and then properly
indents everything and spaces everything out to make it more readable. I never
really had any code finished for it but I did write a flowchart describing how
it'd work so if you're interested in doing this I can send it to you.


The Euphoria Standard Library project :
    http://esl.sourceforge.net/
The Euphoria Standard Library mailing list :
    https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/esl-discussion

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3. Re: Any programs needed..

Thanks D, but do you think there is a real need for this?  

Later,
Jeremy Peterson

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4. Re: Any programs needed..

Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> 
> Could somebody give me a list of programs or libraries that Euphoria needs?
> I've been needing a new project.

I'm sure many MANY people would love to have a wxEuphoria IDE.

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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5. Re: Any programs needed..

Jeremy,

What EU needs is more wrappers for 3rd party libraries. Instead of coding
a full program, just wrap a few libraries. Elliott has wrapped a few
libraries that many of us use often.


----If you continue to do what you have always done,
you will get what you have always gotten.----

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6. Re: Any programs needed..

Hi Ck, I thought WxEuphoria already had an IDE?

Later,
Jeremy Peterson

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7. Re: Any programs needed..

C Bouzy wrote:
> 
> Jeremy,
> 
> What EU needs is more wrappers for 3rd party libraries. Instead of coding
> a full program, just wrap a few libraries. Elliott has wrapped a few
> libraries that many of us use often.
> 

Yeah, I remember people saying that a PostgreSQL wrapper would be a good idea.


The Euphoria Standard Library project :
    http://esl.sourceforge.net/
The Euphoria Standard Library mailing list :
    https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/esl-discussion

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8. Re: Any programs needed..

Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> 
> Hi Ck, I thought WxEuphoria already had an IDE?

I meant "functional, easy-to-use, code-not-separate-from-GUI-builder," etc...

Matt's gonna kill me. 8)

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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9. Re: Any programs needed..

D. Newhall wrote:
> C Bouzy wrote:
> > Jeremy,
> > What EU needs is more wrappers for 3rd party libraries. Instead of coding
> > a full program, just wrap a few libraries. Elliott has wrapped a few
> > libraries that many of us use often.
> Yeah, I remember people saying that a PostgreSQL wrapper would be a good idea.

Oooh, I definitely vote for that one.

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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10. Re: Any programs needed..

C Bouzy wrote:
> 
> Jeremy,
> 
> What EU needs is more wrappers for 3rd party libraries. Instead of coding
> a full program, just wrap a few libraries. Elliott has wrapped a few
> libraries that many of us use often.
> 
> 
> ----If you continue to do what you have always done,
> you will get what you have always gotten.----


Chris: do you have any specific libraries in mind?

Later,
Jeremy Peterson

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11. Re: Any programs needed..

D. Newhall wrote:
> 
> Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> > 
> > Could somebody give me a list of programs or libraries that Euphoria needs?
> > I've been needing a new project.
> > 
> > Later
> > Jeremy Peterson
> 
> A program I started but never had the time for was a Euphoria code beautifier.
> I think it'd be quite useful. It reads in a Euphoria source file and then
> properly
> indents everything and spaces everything out to make it more readable. I never
> really had any code finished for it but I did write a flowchart describing how
> it'd work so if you're interested in doing this I can send it to you.
> 

What's wrong with "Nice Form" by Terry Constant?

-- Brian

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12. Re: Any programs needed..

PostgreSQL?  Ok, I'll take a stab at it.  

Later,
Jeremy Peterson

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13. Re: Any programs needed..

Jeremy, I heard you were doing a PostgreSQL wrapper. Is it done yet?

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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14. Re: Any programs needed..

Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> 
> Could somebody give me a list of programs or libraries that Euphoria needs?
> I've been needing a new project.
> 
> Later
> Jeremy Peterson

Would it be too much work for someone to make a program that would convert
tables from a .mdb file (or a .pdf file) to a .csv file (or somesuch easy to use
file)?  Specifically, USDA's flav.mdb. Or, flav.pdf.
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/Flav/flav.html

This is a description of the .mdb format. It's as clear as mud to me.
http://www.xiph.org/positron/doc/mdb.html

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15. Re: Any programs needed..

D. Newhall wrote:
> 

> 
> A program I started but never had the time for was a Euphoria code beautifier.
> I think it'd be quite useful. It reads in a Euphoria source file and then
> properly
> indents everything and spaces everything out to make it more readable. I never
> really had any code finished for it but I did write a flowchart describing how
> it'd work so if you're interested in doing this I can send it to you.
> 

I believe that this program by Jiri Babor does something along these lines:

http://www.rapideuphoria.com/tidy.zip

Ken Rhodes
100% MicroSoft Free
SuSE Linux 10.0
No AddWare, SpyWare, Viruses
Life is Good  :)

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16. Re: Any programs needed..

Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> 
> PostgreSQL?  Ok, I'll take a stab at it.  
> 

I don't mean to bud in, but I'm almost done that. It will be at a somewhat
   lower level than the other SQL things since I like to stick to the given API. I
   still need to do some testing on Linux and re-write some docs, but I finally have
   some free time now that exams are almost over.

> Later,
> Jeremy Peterson


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17. Re: Any programs needed..

cklester wrote:
> 
> Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Ck, I thought WxEuphoria already had an IDE?
> 
> I meant "functional, easy-to-use, code-not-separate-from-GUI-builder," etc...
> 
> Matt's gonna kill me. 8)

My teams are on the way.  Please remain calm and stay in your house...

But seriously, the GUI builder is pretty rough (I'm still hoping that someone
will take it over from me like how Judith took up the win32lib IDE :).

Matt Lewis

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18. Re: Any programs needed..

Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> 
> Could somebody give me a list of programs or libraries that Euphoria needs?
> I've been needing a new project.
> 
> Later
> Jeremy Peterson


I've been thinking - how about some kind of 'Printing from Template' for
Win32Lib.

People could create template in RTF or something then the load the template,
replaces value etc. using the Library?

Would this help anyone?

Thanks,
 Alex

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19. Re: Any programs needed..

Truevision3D: http://www.truevision3d.com/
DSVideoLib: http://www.ims.tuwien.ac.at/~thomas/dsvideolib.php
oSIP: http://www.gnu.org/software/osip/#downloading
OSP: http://www.transnexus.com/OSP%20Toolkit/OSP%20Toolkit.htm

----If you continue to do what you have always done,
you will get what you have always gotten.----

Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> 
> Chris: do you have any specific libraries in mind?
> 
> Later,
> Jeremy Peterson

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20. Re: Any programs needed..

You have?  Just great... I had done a lot before I read your message.
Well, I'll do it anyway, it's always better to have choices. :D

Later,
Jeremy Peterson

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21. Re: Any programs needed..

Chris, I've used TV3D before, but I'm not able to port it at this time as
I only have access to a PII laptop without a 3d card for my programming.
I'll see what I can do with DSVideoLib.  Thanks for the suggestions.

Later,
Jeremy Peterson

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22. Re: Any programs needed..

Jeremy,

No problem, I just wanted to give you a few ideas. Good luck with DSVideoLib.

Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> 
> Chris, I've used TV3D before, but I'm not able to port it at this time as
> I only have access to a PII laptop without a 3d card for my programming.
> I'll see what I can do with DSVideoLib.  Thanks for the suggestions.
> 
> Later,
> Jeremy Peterson

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23. Re: Any programs needed..

Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> 
> Chris, I've used TV3D before, but I'm not able to port it at this time as
> I only have access to a PII laptop without a 3d card for my programming.
> I'll see what I can do with DSVideoLib.  Thanks for the suggestions.
> 
> Later,
> Jeremy Peterson

I'm considering updating the Allegro wrappers for Windows then work on the
Linux/FreeBSD wrappers. Ray Smith's wrappers go to version 2.x; Allegro is at
v4.2.0 now.

I've been wanting to wrap a 3D engine, but not only do they typically comprise
of a huge API, but most of of them are written in C++ or other languages, thus
making it very difficult and time consuming to write Euphoria wrappers for. True
Vision 3D has a C++ API version, so it's *maybe* possible to make bindings for
Euphoria but improbable.


Regards,
Vincent

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24. Re: Any programs needed..

TV3D can be used with basically any programming language. If you can use VB with
TV3D, then
you could use EU. It would be nice to finally see a completed wrapper for a 3D
engine.

Vincent wrote:
> 

> I'm considering updating the Allegro wrappers for Windows then work on the
> Linux/FreeBSD
> wrappers. Ray Smith's wrappers go to version 2.x; Allegro is at v4.2.0 now.
> 
> I've been wanting to wrap a 3D engine, but not only do they typically comprise
> of a huge API, but most of of them are written in C++ or other languages, thus
> making it very difficult and time consuming to write Euphoria wrappers for.
> True Vision 3D has a C++ API version, so it's *maybe* possible to make
> bindings
> for Euphoria but improbable.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Vincent

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25. Re: Any programs needed..

C Bouzy wrote:
> 
> TV3D can be used with basically any programming language. If you can use VB
> with TV3D, then
> you could use EU. It would be nice to finally see a completed wrapper for a
> 3D engine.

Don't we have some pretty comprehensive OpenGL libraries?

-=ck
"Programming in a state of Euphoria."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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26. Re: Any programs needed..

C Bouzy wrote:
> 
> TV3D can be used with basically any programming language. If you can use VB
> with TV3D, then
> you could use EU. It would be nice to finally see a completed wrapper for a
> 3D engine.
> 

Euphoria has no internal or external interface methods for Visual Basic 6,
Visual Basic.NET, C#, Python, or Delphi libraries and assemblies. Euphoria really
doesn't support C++ either. Matt just was able to come up with some neat hacks to
get Euphoria to wrap wxWidgets classes; he had to do some major modifying of the
official source code, if wxWidgets was not open-source, he probably wouldn't have
been able to make the wrappers for it.


Regards,
Vincent

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27. Re: Any programs needed..

> Don't we have some pretty comprehensive OpenGL libraries?
> 

TV3D is much easier to use than using one of the libraries in the archive.

----If you continue to do what you have always done,
you will get what you have always gotten.----

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28. Re: Any programs needed..

Vincent wrote:
> 
> Euphoria has no internal or external interface methods for Visual Basic 6,
> Visual
> Basic.NET, C#, Python, or Delphi libraries and assemblies. Euphoria really
> doesn't
> support C++ either. Matt just was able to come up with some neat hacks to get
> Euphoria to wrap wxWidgets classes; he had to do some major modifying of the
> official source code, if wxWidgets was not open-source, he probably wouldn't
> have been able to make the wrappers for it.

I am positive TV3D could be wrapped using EU.

----If you continue to do what you have always done,
you will get what you have always gotten.----

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29. Re: Any programs needed..

So true, Vincent.  Rob, when are you going to make a way for us to access stuff
written in other languages?  The def_c_func, c_func, way is not very good.

Later,
Jeremy Peterson

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30. Re: Any programs needed..

Vincent wrote:
> 
> Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> > 
> > Chris, I've used TV3D before, but I'm not able to port it at this time as
> > I only have access to a PII laptop without a 3d card for my programming.
> > I'll see what I can do with DSVideoLib.  Thanks for the suggestions.
> > 
> > Later,
> > Jeremy Peterson
> 
> I'm considering updating the Allegro wrappers for Windows then work on the
> Linux/FreeBSD
> wrappers. Ray Smith's wrappers go to version 2.x; Allegro is at v4.2.0 now.
> 
> I've been wanting to wrap a 3D engine, but not only do they typically comprise
> of a huge API, but most of of them are written in C++ or other languages, thus
> making it very difficult and time consuming to write Euphoria wrappers for.
> True Vision 3D has a C++ API version, so it's *maybe* possible to make
> bindings
> for Euphoria but improbable.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Vincent


Hi

AFIK the Allegro wrappers go to version 4.0, and they are mostly wrapped,
apart from the 3d functions.

Ray wrapped them by first writing a c dll (compiled with gcc (mingw on Windows))
then linking euphoria to that. I too have been looking at extending
the allegro libraries (but please don't let that stop you).

Chris

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