1. EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by K_D_R Sep 16, 2016
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Download Links:
EuGTK4.12.0.tar.gz Sept 15, 2016 13.6 meg
EuGTK4.12.zip Sept 15, 2016 13.8 meg
Thanks again Irv!
2. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 16, 2016
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Please note a few things:
1. Later versions of the gtk libraries (up to ver. 3.20 now) have a look you may not like, while older versions (3.8) match the Aero look but lack some of the newer controls.
2. You will almost certainly need to add some icons. I have a set that seems to work, but is too big to post on google pages. If anyone needs 'em, let me know.
See the important notes included for places to download the Win GTK installer(s(.
3. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by K_D_R Sep 16, 2016
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2. You will almost certainly need to add some icons. I have a set that seems to work, but is too big to post on google pages. If anyone needs 'em, let me know.
Is your set of icons to large to upload to the RDS User Contributions page?
I haven't noticed the dirth of icons problem on Linux, but if they are needed on Linux, I guess I'd like to have'em.
Thanks again, Irv. Ken Rhodes
4. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 16, 2016
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No, Linux comes with all you need, and you can easily add more.
I'm sure windows users could download them too, but it would have to be done manually. Look for Adwaita themes, etc.
5. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 17, 2016
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So i went to sourceforge, downloaded and ran the 3.8.1 installer, it made a \gtk-3.8.1\ directory, not a \Gtk-Runtime\ (which the EuGTK\demos\GtkEngine.e calls for), and there's no \bin\ directory either. So GtkEngine.e refuses to run.
Now what?
6. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 18, 2016
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I must have given the wrong link. I just downloaded and installed 3.10 from the link below and it is compete. There are several other vers. to try there as well.
http://download2.polytechnic.edu.na/pub4/sourceforge/g/gt/gtkd-packages/gtk3-runtime/
7. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by fizzpopsoft Sep 18, 2016
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Well, I get http 404 (not found) when clicking on the above link.
Its not a case that you are signed in, have special access?
My mistake trying to post from my phone. The corrected link above should work.
8. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 18, 2016
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My mistake trying to post from my phone. The corrected link above should work.
9. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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I must have given the wrong link. I just downloaded and installed 3.10 from the link below and it is compete. There are several other vers. to try there as well.
http://download2.polytechnic.edu.na/pub4/sourceforge/g/gt/gtkd-packages/gtk3-runtime/
Ok, i downloaded the 3.10 32bit version, ran it. Then ran browser.ex from the demos, and got this:
Error loading libgailutil-3-0.dll Error loading libgdkglext-3.0-0.dll Error loading libgthread-2.0-0.dll Error loading libgtkglext-3.0-0.dll Error loading libgtksourceview-3.0-1.dll Error loading libiconv-2.dll Error loading libjpeg-62.dll Error loading libpng16-16.dll Error loading libcroco-0.6-3.dll Error loading librsvg-2-2.dllBut the files are in the C:\Program Files\Gtk-Runtime\bin folder. Up popped a file listing. When i double-clicked on what looked like possibly more demos, i got this:
'eui' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 'eui' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
Press any key to continue . . .
10. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 18, 2016
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Are you using eugtk 4.12.0?
I ask because earlier vers. had the dll names hard coded in GtkEngine (a mistake).
4.12.0 Just loads every dll it finds in the bin directory, which is more likely to work. Don't worry if a couple are missing, such as librsvga, most things should work, except for the themed icons.
edit: other than that, I don't know. I don't have access to a 32-bit machine to test Edit2: on windows I have *.ex files associated with Euphoria Interpreter (Windowed) e.g. eui
11. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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Are you using eugtk 4.12.0?
Yes: EuGTK4.12.0.zip , as called for.
I ask because earlier vers. had the dll names hard coded in GtkEngine (a mistake).
4.12.0 Just loads every dll it finds in the bin directory, which is more likely to work. Don't worry if a couple are missing, such as librsvga, most things should work, except for the themed icons.
It apparently did load the other dlls just fine, but errored on those it listed? But still ran ok?
12. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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I recieved this msg:
( test13.ex:380): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon 'face-raspberry'. The
'hicolor' theme
was not found either, perhaps you need to install it.
You can get a copy from:
http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/releases
If i dl those, will they work on windoze, and into which folders shall i place them?
13. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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wow, it just said it could not load any of the DLLs, and then tried to take more memory than the computer has:
Error loading libatk-1.0-0.dll Error loading libcairo-2.dll Error loading libcairo-gobject-2.dll Error loading libffi-6.dll Error loading libfontconfig-1.dll Error loading libfreetype-6.dll Error loading libgailutil-3-0.dll Error loading libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll Error loading libgdk-3-0.dll Error loading libgdkglext-3.0-0.dll Error loading libgdk_pixbuf-2.0-0.dll Error loading libgio-2.0-0.dll Error loading libglib-2.0-0.dll Error loading libgmodule-2.0-0.dll Error loading libgobject-2.0-0.dll Error loading libgthread-2.0-0.dll Error loading libgtk-3-0.dll Error loading libgtkglext-3.0-0.dll Error loading libgtksourceview-3.0-1.dll Error loading libharfbuzz-0.dll Error loading libiconv-2.dll Error loading libintl-8.dll Error loading libjasper-1.dll Error loading libjpeg-62.dll Error loading liblzma-5.dll Error loading libpango-1.0-0.dll Error loading libpangocairo-1.0-0.dll Error loading libpangoft2-1.0-0.dll Error loading libpangowin32-1.0-0.dll Error loading libpixman-1-0.dll Error loading libpng16-16.dll Error loading libtiff-5.dll Error loading libxml2-2.dll Error loading zlib1.dll Error loading libcroco-0.6-3.dll Error loading librsvg-2-2.dll couldn't alloc 42793204 bytes
EDIT: OOPS, it's after midnite, i read that as 4.2GB. Pretty sure i have 42,793,204 bytes.
14. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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I don't know why this isn't a huge problem so far, but the line
LIBS = dir("C:/Program Files/Gtk-Runtime/bin/*.dll")
isn't saving the path to those DLLs, and current_dir says it's off in C:\Euphoria-10-Feb-2013\ , where it's sure not to find them. So the question becomes, why is any of this working at all?
EDIT:
Well, this isn't opening them either:
x = open_dll("C:\\Program Files\\Gtk-Runtime\\bin\\"&LIBS[i])
The files are there.
15. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 18, 2016
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I recieved this msg:
( test13.ex:380): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon 'face-raspberry'. The
'hicolor' theme
was not found either, perhaps you need to install it.
You can get a copy from:
http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/releases
If i dl those, will they work on windoze, and into which folders shall i place them?
I believe so. I put mine in C:/ProgramData/icons
Edit: you may want to also get Adwaita, which I think has more icons.
16. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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Edit: you may want to also get Adwaita, which I think has more icons.
I think i'll wait till i can see the EuGTK demos running with no other errors. It seems pretty sure it's not going to load various dlls. Can't open_dll() make smarter comments about why it isn't loading the files?
17. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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I hacked down a copy of GtkEngine.e, so all it does is load dlls, which i can specify. It's using only OE function calls, i removed includes for other GTK files. This is all that it is:
with trace include dll.e atom x x = open_dll("libgailutil-3-0.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error \n") end if x = open_dll("libgdkglext-3.0-0.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error \n") end if x = open_dll("libgthread-2.0-0.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error \n") end if x = open_dll("libgtkglext-3.0-0.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error \n") end if x = open_dll("libgtksourceview-3.0-1.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error \n") end if x = open_dll("libiconv-2.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error \n") end if x = open_dll("libjpeg-62.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error \n") end if x = open_dll("libpng16-16.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error \n") end if trace(1) x=x
I put this into C:\Program Files\Gtk-Runtime\bin with the dlls, and ran it. It printed "Error" eight times. It didn't load those 8 specified dlls.
Now what?
18. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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I made a few changes,
with trace include dll.e include std/os.e atom x x = open_dll("C:\\Program Files\\Gtk-Runtime\\bin\\libgailutil-3-0.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error libgailutil-3-0\n") end if sleep(1) x = open_dll("C:\\Program Files\\Gtk-Runtime\\bin\\libgdkglext-3.0-0.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error libgdkglext-3.0-0\n") end if sleep(1) x = open_dll("C:\\Program Files\\Gtk-Runtime\\bin\\libgthread-2.0-0.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error libgthread-2.0-0\n") end if sleep(1) x = open_dll("C:\\Program Files\\Gtk-Runtime\\bin\\libgtkglext-3.0-0.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error libgtkglext-3.0-0\n") end if sleep(1) x = open_dll("C:\\Program Files\\Gtk-Runtime\\bin\\libgtksourceview-3.0-1.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error libgtksourceview-3.0-1\n") end if sleep(1) x = open_dll("C:\\Program Files\\Gtk-Runtime\\bin\\libiconv-2.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error libiconv-2\n") end if sleep(1) x = open_dll("C:\\Program Files\\Gtk-Runtime\\bin\\libjpeg-62.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error libjpeg-62\n") end if sleep(1) x = open_dll("C:\\Program Files\\Gtk-Runtime\\bin\\libpng16-16.dll") if x = 0 then puts(1,"Error libpng16-16\n") end if trace(1) x=x
And it prints out
Error libgdkglext-3.0-0 Error libgtkglext-3.0-0 Error libgtksourceview-3.0-1
19. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 18, 2016
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The two gl files can be left out, They are for open-gl graphics for which there are not yet instructions on how to use. SourceView can be left out, too.
The real question is: what's going on? I installed the same library (and 2 other vers.) last night. All worked.
I'm using Win 7 64-bits, and the routine in EuGTK has never failed to find and load a dll if it was there.
Edit: perhaps the vers. of opengl on your comp. vs. the ones with GTK aren't compatible?
20. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 18, 2016
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I have reproduced (more or less ) the errors you are getting.
It only happens if there is a Gtk-Runtime folder and another such as GTK3-Runtime Win64 both on the computer.
I'm wondering if GTK has a hard-coded command to look in C:/Program Files/Gtk-Runtime before looking elsewhere? I deleted all C:/Program Files/gtk-anything, Then reinstalled just one, and matched the dir() path to that new folder, and everything works.
Please remove the two lines that add libcroco and librsvga, they shouldn't be there.
21. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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Ok, i removed the GTK 3.81 dir from \Program files\, and commented out those two extra dll loads.
Re-running the code above (that with the sleep(1) in it), i get
Error libgailutil-3-0 Error libgdkglext-3.0-0 Error libgthread-2.0-0 Error libgtkglext-3.0-0 Error libgtksourceview-3.0-1 Error libpng16-16
Re-running C:\Euphoria-10-Feb-2013\EuGTK\demos\GtkEngine.e, it listed *every* dll as an error, ran up 100% cpu and 2GB of memory to itself, then dumped to the console what you see at http://DesignerThinking.com/ex.err , at which point i killed it with taskmgr.
You've obviously put a lot of time and effort into this GTK gui thing, i wish i could use it, i am trying, but like trying to use all the other different windoze gui apps in Eu, they just don't work.
22. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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Irv, if you want to, i am willing to discuss this in real time with you on irc, and step thru what you want to happen, to make this work. It's kind of like why there is a #euphoria channel.
I have been waiting for ~13 years to have a plain text windoze gui for irc. I submitted irc.e here in 2013 (and in the years before), and no one has written a gui using it either.
23. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 18, 2016
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Solved!
Look at your PATH. Mine had C:/Program Files/Gtk-Runtime and GTK3-Runtime Win64, Plus a bunch of other needless stuff. I removed the ref. to these along with the other non-used stuff. I think open_dll uses the paths to find stuff, since with these set up, open_dll doesn't need or want a full path. Just the dll name.
Next, install gtk-runtime-3.18.exe. It installs in C:/Program Files/GTK3-Runtime Win64. (or 32, ymmv) The installer updates thr path correctly. Seems to start faster without all the bogus paths.
Then, you obtain your list of dlls by
LIBS = dir("C:/Program Files/GTK3-Runtime Win64/bin/*.dll") LIBS = vslice(LIBS,1) for i = 1 to length(LIBS) do x = open_dll(LIBS[i]) ...
24. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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Uninstalled GTK v3.10.x. Downloaded and ran gtk3-runtime_3.18.3_32-bit.exe. It created and installed in C:\Program Files\Gtk-Runtime\.
Path is now PATH=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\batch;;C:\Program Files\Gtk-Runtime\bin;
I ran a demo, and then GtkEngine.e alone, each case it listed *every* dll as an error.
I edited GtkEngine.e to hardcode the paths. I ran a demo, and then GtkEngine.e alone, each case it listed *every* dll as an error.
25. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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To GtkEngine.e, i edited
atom x system("PATH",1) trace(1) for i = 1 to length(LIBS) do
and it dumped:
PATH=C:\Program Files\TextPad 4;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\batch;
26. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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I ran this :
C:\Euphoria-10-Feb-2013\EuGTK\demos>C:\Euphoria-10-Feb-2013\bin\eui.exe C:\Euphoria-10-Feb-2013\EuGTK\demos\GtkEngine.eand eui.exe threw this error:
This application has failed to start because dwmapi.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem.and then for each "Error loading ..." line :
This application has failed to start because libstdc++-6.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem.and then
This application has failed to start because libicucu56.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem.And finally crashing hard with
C:\Euphoria-10-Feb-2013\EuGTK\demos\GtkEngine.e:9236 in function gtk_str_func() A machine-level exception occurred during execution of this statement (signal 5) ... called from C:\Euphoria-10-Feb-2013\EuGTK\demos\GtkEngine.e:147
Back to you, Irv.
27. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 18, 2016
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I am at a loss to know what to do. I've always just installed Gtk and run - problems were with my programs, mostly issues with graphics and mime types on Win.)
The fact that some dlls load sometimes must mean something. Could you write a test that loads a non- gtk dll and see what happens?
Other than that, I don't have any suggestions. Perhaps someone who knows more about Windows can offer some help.
28. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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Could you write a test that loads a non- gtk dll and see what happens?
with trace include dll.e atom x x = open_dll("C:\\Program Files\\7-Zip\\7z.dll") trace(1) x=x
Ran it several times, x is a large non-zero number.
29. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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I tried something else, this works:
x = open_dll("C:\\Program Files\\Paint Shop Pro\\Jcap32.dll")
but this does not:
LIBS = dir("C:\\Program Files\\Paint Shop Pro\\*.dll") if atom(LIBS) then crash("\nFATAL ERROR:\n************ Cannot find GTK runtime libraries (.dlls)\n") end if LIBS = vslice(LIBS,1) --LIBS &= {"libcroco-0.6-3.dll"} -- removed per Irv --LIBS &= {"librsvg-2-2.dll"} -- removed per Irv atom x for i = 1 to length(LIBS) do x = open_dll(LIBS[i])
Error loading Jcap32.dll Error loading jff.dll Error loading jlem3205.dll Error loading jtwn32.dll Error loading PCDLIB32.DLL
"Jcap32.dll" loads one way, but not the other way?
30. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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Spelling out the path in GtkEngine's open loop
x = open_dll("C:\\Program Files\\Paint Shop Pro\\"&LIBS[i])
throws only this one error:
Error loading jff.dllno matter how many times i run it.
31. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
- 1701 views
Regarding the dwmapi error thrown :
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/173433/how-to-fix-dwmapi-dll-delay-load-dependency-under-winxp
32. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 18, 2016
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That must mean something. could the loop be asking for the next dll before the previous dll can do - whatever it is supposed to do on startup?
If you want to try, write out the dll names from LIBS to a text file, and do a search/replace to make each a separate open_dll() call.
I know it's a lot of work. That's the way I did it previously. But it won't prove anything if I do that. Mine works fine with the loop.
33. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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That must mean something. could the loop be asking for the next dll before the previous dll can do - whatever it is supposed to do on startup?
That's why i had added those sleep(1) lines many hours ago. But they had no effect other than to slow down execution.
The webpage url i gave for the dwmapi error says that windows may not load the dlls until they are actually used in the program, plus there's a Visual Studio bug involved. I'm now lost. I don't use .net, VS, or C++, and the dlls in question are Vista dlls.
34. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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If you want to try, write out the dll names from LIBS to a text file, and do a search/replace to make each a separate open_dll() call.
I wanted to do that many hours ago, and did so, see: http://openeuphoria.org/forum/m/130356.wc
35. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 18, 2016
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Too many different failures, all related to one basic call: open_dll()
After all, nothing of interest happens before the dlls start loading, and nothing else can happen until that is complete.
Is there any chance that your Eu libraries or eui itself could be corrupted? Remember earlier error re: eui not found/not an executable file - or whatever. That's kind of puzzling .
36. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
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Is there any chance that your Eu libraries or eui itself could be corrupted? Remember earlier error re: eui not found/not an executable file - or whatever. That's kind of puzzling .
I don't recall that error. When was it? Everything else is runnng fine.
37. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 18, 2016
- 1646 views
- 9 in this thread.
Anyway, there's no hope of finding the problem when the symptoms are different each time.
If there's anyone else here still using Windows, maybe they can tell us what's happening .
38. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
- 1642 views
- 9 in this thread.
That's because eui is hardcoded on line 116 of browser.e, and it's not in the PATH variable, so it's unfound. Since i have been using eui since that post, it's obviously found and working.
39. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by katsmeow Sep 18, 2016
- 1632 views
So 33 posts of the 38 in this thread are about EuGTK not working.
I give up. I cannot have a gui on a windows machine. It's that simple.
40. Re: EuGTK4.12.0 Released - with improved WINDOWS support!
- Posted by irv Sep 18, 2016
- 1633 views
What can I say? It works for me. Not that I will be using it. Tomorrow, I'll be trying to figure out why the last Win update broke our ability to use our laser printers.
