1. Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

useless_ said...

Can i ask again, like elevating this to a trouble ticket, that all archive submissions be intact standalone code, with all includes, able to run on a bare new install of Euphoria? This scenario happens often, and more often than people take the time to ask about it on this forum. I'll bet most people new to Euphoria run into this issue and just leave.

useless

I compiled a list of the 404's a year ago, but nobody cared
http://openeuphoria.org/forum/118604.wc

Some of those are hosted on sites that went down years ago; it would make sense to have a "report broken entry" button or similar for the ones that are downloadable, but simply not usable.

Btw, the duplicates of the site (test.openeuphoria.org, interpreted.openeuphoria.org ) are still showing up in Google; don't think these were ever fixed either.

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2. Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

CoJaBo2 said...

Btw, the duplicates of the site (test.openeuphoria.org, interpreted.openeuphoria.org ) are still showing up in Google; don't think these were ever fixed either.

The former can't really be fixed - as I previously explained, it is intended to host entirely different and unique content. (By and large, just dummy test data, but in a few case it actually holds useful information that shouldn't be duplicated on the main site - e.g. example data exposing bugs or flaws in euweb itself.)

I wasn't aware that the latter was causing duplicates. That one is serving up identical content, and should be fixed, though I'm not really sure how to do it. (The purpose is debugging euweb itself - hence it needs to run a separate instance of euweb to parse information from CGI and from the database and output its own HTML. The fix is not as easy as simply redirecting stuff away from interpreted to the main site.)

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3. Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

jimcbrown said...
CoJaBo2 said...

Btw, the duplicates of the site (test.openeuphoria.org, interpreted.openeuphoria.org ) are still showing up in Google; don't think these were ever fixed either.

The former can't really be fixed - as I previously explained, it is intended to host entirely different and unique content. (By and large, just dummy test data, but in a few case it actually holds useful information that shouldn't be duplicated on the main site - e.g. example data exposing bugs or flaws in euweb itself.)

CoJaBo2, 3 months ago said...

it should have a robots.txt forbidding access, so it doesn't show up as the first hit on Google.

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4. Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

CoJaBo2 said...
jimcbrown said...
CoJaBo2 said...

Btw, the duplicates of the site (test.openeuphoria.org, interpreted.openeuphoria.org ) are still showing up in Google; don't think these were ever fixed either.

The former can't really be fixed - as I previously explained, it is intended to host entirely different and unique content. (By and large, just dummy test data, but in a few case it actually holds useful information that shouldn't be duplicated on the main site - e.g. example data exposing bugs or flaws in euweb itself.)

CoJaBo2, 3 months ago said...

it should have a robots.txt forbidding access, so it doesn't show up as the first hit on Google.

On the contrary, it shows there is an active forum there to get help from.
Then when they come to the forum they discover that there are some people there to help them.

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5. Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

CoJaBo2 said...
jimcbrown said...
CoJaBo2 said...

Btw, the duplicates of the site (test.openeuphoria.org, interpreted.openeuphoria.org ) are still showing up in Google; don't think these were ever fixed either.

The former can't really be fixed - as I previously explained, it is intended to host entirely different and unique content. (By and large, just dummy test data, but in a few case it actually holds useful information that shouldn't be duplicated on the main site - e.g. example data exposing bugs or flaws in euweb itself.)

CoJaBo2, 3 months ago said...

it should have a robots.txt forbidding access, so it doesn't show up as the first hit on Google.

I am unable to find a post or ticket from CoJaBo2 from Feb 2013 that mentions this solution.

The first hit I see on google is for https://www.google.com/url?q=httphttp://openeuphoria.org/forum/120516.wc&sa=U&ei=PbaLUb2XH9S70QG96YDYDA&ved=0CBgQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNGKWQkRTc0UQax5EGXbm0SA_3COcQ btw

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6. Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

EUWX said...

On the contrary, it shows there is an active forum there to get help from.
Then when they come to the forum they discover that there are some people there to help them.

I can see CoJaBo2's point - there appears to at least be one post on the test site where someone seems to have confused the test site with the real one.

http://test.openeuphoria.org/forum/113248.wc

More pertinently, the poster of that post appears to have never returned to either forum.

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7. Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

jimcbrown said...
EUWX said...

On the contrary, it shows there is an active forum there to get help from.
Then when they come to the forum they discover that there are some people there to help them.

I can see CoJaBo2's point - there appears to at least be one post on the test site where someone seems to have confused the test site with the real one.

http://test.openeuphoria.org/forum/113248.wc

More pertinently, the poster of that post appears to have never returned to either forum.

Wrong:

http://openeuphoria.org/search/results.wc?s=jvandal&news=1&ticket=1&forum=1&wiki=1&manual=1

useless

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8. Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

eukat said...
jimcbrown said...
EUWX said...

On the contrary, it shows there is an active forum there to get help from.
Then when they come to the forum they discover that there are some people there to help them.

I can see CoJaBo2's point - there appears to at least be one post on the test site where someone seems to have confused the test site with the real one.

http://test.openeuphoria.org/forum/113248.wc

More pertinently, the poster of that post appears to have never returned to either forum.

Wrong:

http://openeuphoria.org/search/results.wc?s=jvandal&news=1&ticket=1&forum=1&wiki=1&manual=1

Hmm. From there I see mattlewis's attempts to reply to the original post, and DerekParnell's relies to a different post several months later, and then posts from this thread.

I maintain that I am correct:

There appears to at least be one post on the test site where someone seems to have confused the test site with the real one.

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9. Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

jimcbrown said...
eukat said...
jimcbrown said...
EUWX said...

On the contrary, it shows there is an active forum there to get help from.
Then when they come to the forum they discover that there are some people there to help them.

I can see CoJaBo2's point - there appears to at least be one post on the test site where someone seems to have confused the test site with the real one.

http://test.openeuphoria.org/forum/113248.wc

More pertinently, the poster of that post appears to have never returned to either forum.

Wrong:

http://openeuphoria.org/search/results.wc?s=jvandal&news=1&ticket=1&forum=1&wiki=1&manual=1

Hmm. From there I see mattlewis's attempts to reply to the original post, and DerekParnell's relies to a different post several months later, and then posts from this thread.

I maintain that I am correct:

There appears to at least be one post on the test site where someone seems to have confused the test site with the real one.

I maintain i am correct: jvandal was once an active poster here, but you said "the poster of that post appears to have never returned to either forum". I recognised his nick instantly.

useless

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10. Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

eukat said...

I maintain i am correct: jvandal was once an active poster here, but you said "the poster of that post appears to have never returned to either forum". I recognised his nick instantly.

Agreed, jvandal was once an active poster here. However, unless you have evidence that he has posted at least once after May 24, 2011, I'll have to disagree with you. (I did a quick search and couldn't find any posts from his account. Didn't see any from your search link either.)

I'd actually be very happy to see a direct link to a post from jvandal after May 24, 2011, however.

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11. Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

I maintain i am correct: jvandal was once an active poster here, but you said "the poster of that post appears to have never returned to either forum". I recognised his nick instantly.

Agreed, jvandal was once an active poster here. However, unless you have evidence that he has posted at least once after May 24, 2011, I'll have to disagree with you. (I did a quick search and couldn't find any posts from his account. Didn't see any from your search link either.)

I'd actually be very happy to see a direct link to a post from jvandal after May 24, 2011, however.

WTF are you people going on about? Which database tool is this?

I'm so confused.

Matt


Forked into: are you people going on about

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12. are you people going on about

Forked from Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

mattlewis said...
jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

I maintain i am correct: jvandal was once an active poster here, but you said "the poster of that post appears to have never returned to either forum". I recognised his nick instantly.

Agreed, jvandal was once an active poster here. However, unless you have evidence that he has posted at least once after May 24, 2011, I'll have to disagree with you. (I did a quick search and couldn't find any posts from his account. Didn't see any from your search link either.)

I'd actually be very happy to see a direct link to a post from jvandal after May 24, 2011, however.

WTF are you people going on about? Which database tool is this?

I'm so confused.

Matt

Point taken. I've moved the relevant posts to a new thread.

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13. Re: Which tool for Euphoria Database (EDS)

mattlewis said...
jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

I maintain i am correct: jvandal was once an active poster here, but you said "the poster of that post appears to have never returned to either forum". I recognised his nick instantly.

Agreed, jvandal was once an active poster here. However, unless you have evidence that he has posted at least once after May 24, 2011, I'll have to disagree with you. (I did a quick search and couldn't find any posts from his account. Didn't see any from your search link either.)

I'd actually be very happy to see a direct link to a post from jvandal after May 24, 2011, however.

WTF are you people going on about? Which database tool is this?

I'm so confused.

Matt


Forked into: are you people going on about

The one we do not have for finding jvandal in the Euphorum database.

useless

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