1. Euphoria Books
- Posted by Euphoric_Kid Dec 05, 2011
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Euphoria lacks good books. Please concentrate on this if you really want to popularise Euphoria. From good books I mean like- "A byte of Python" or "Learn Python the hard way". I have read Euphoric Mysteries and A beginners tutorial to Euphoria a little but they dont hold my interest for long and I moved to Python. I still want to learn Euphoria but by reading "A byte of Euphoria" or "Learn Euphoria the hard way". Please someone wrote more books on Euphoria.
2. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by Lone_EverGreen_Ranger Dec 05, 2011
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Euphoria lacks good books. Please concentrate on this if you really want to popularise Euphoria. From good books I mean like- "A byte of Python" or "Learn Python the hard way". I have read Euphoric Mysteries and A beginners tutorial to Euphoria a little but they dont hold my interest for long and I moved to Python. I still want to learn Euphoria but by reading "A byte of Euphoria" or "Learn Euphoria the hard way". Please someone wrote more books on Euphoria.
I'd also like to see some more books on Euphoria myself. I agree with you, that we need more books on euphoria. I do have some plans on writing some euphoria books. I'd like to write one that focuses on game programming. However, I still need to work on my coding skills, before I write any book on programming. Perhaps this thread will get more interested in writing a book on Euphoria. A really good idea would be to make a Euphoria bible book, like the C bible. Something that covers the entire language of euphoria and maybe win32lib and wxepuhoria.
3. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by euphoric (admin) Dec 05, 2011
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Writing a book about programming takes a lot of time. I've tried to lay down some basics at my web site, UsingEuphoria. See "Jubilation" and "GUIphoria." They're old, but they should still be somewhat relevant. Let me know what else you want to know.
Update: The webring seems to be hijacking my page on first visit. If you don't land there, try again.
4. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by Lone_EverGreen_Ranger Dec 05, 2011
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Writing a book about programming takes a lot of time. I've tried to lay down some basics at my web site, UsingEuphoria. See "Jubilation" and "GUIphoria." They're old, but they should still be somewhat relevant. Let me know what else you want to know.
Update: The webring seems to be hijacking my page on first visit. If you don't land there, try again.
Even if it does take a long time, I am sure there are some out there that have that time to write a book on Euphoria. I'd write a book on Euphoria, but I need some more practice on my coding skills.
5. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by ChrisB (moderator) Dec 06, 2011
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I'd probably say if you want to write a book, go for it - the coding skills will come later. Why don't you just rewrite the python book (replacing the python bits with euphoria first), and being aware of the 1001 copyright issues that go with that statement!
Chris
PS, I tried writing a book once too - here's the first page
Title - TO BE DECIDED It
6. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by euphoric (admin) Dec 06, 2011
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I'd probably say if you want to write a book, go for it - the coding skills will come later. Why don't you just rewrite the python book (replacing the python bits with euphoria first), and being aware of the 1001 copyright issues that go with that statement!
Chris
PS, I tried writing a book once too - here's the first page
Title - TO BE DECIDED It
LOL. I can relate.
I did try to rewrite that one open source programming book for Euphoria, but it delved into concepts not easily translated to Euphoria from [generic language]. 
Maybe someday, after I win the lottery and have all the free time in the world. 
(See the "Language Agnostic" section here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/194812/list-of-freely-available-programming-books)
7. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Dec 08, 2011
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Euphoria lacks good books.
Yes it does. It also lacks people with the time and/or energy and/or skills to write a complete book by themselves. So, what about the idea of collaborating on creating a good book for Euphoria? The Google Docs application seems to allow easy and comprehensive collaboration functionality. I have started a book outline that some people might like to help flesh out with great content.
The wiki could be used but it is a bit too open for this type of focused task.
Let me know if you'd like to help out. The different roles needed include writers, editors, and reviewers.
8. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by ChrisB (moderator) Dec 08, 2011
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Hi
I'd be up for that, in my limited capacity.
Chris
9. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by euphoric (admin) Dec 08, 2011
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Let me know if you'd like to help out. The different roles needed include writers, editors, and reviewers.
I can help out.
10. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by Lone_EverGreen_Ranger Dec 08, 2011
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Let me know if you'd like to help out. The different roles needed include writers, editors, and reviewers.
I can help out.
I have started working on a site that will host tutorials based on Euphoria.
11. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by mwsgris Dec 15, 2011
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Writing a book about programming takes a lot of time. I've tried to lay down some basics at my web site, UsingEuphoria. See "Jubilation" and "GUIphoria." They're old, but they should still be somewhat relevant. Let me know what else you want to know.
Cool site. I wish I knew this was around while I was learning it. Curious though... I added XRC support over two years ago, and you just found it now?
12. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by euphoric (admin) Dec 15, 2011
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I added XRC support over two years ago, and you just found it now?
You added XRC support 2+ years ago?! Yes, I must've missed it. You added it to wxEuphoria? I thought Matt enabled that.
Regardless, I'm glad I found it finally!
13. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by mattlewis (admin) Dec 15, 2011
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I added XRC support over two years ago, and you just found it now?
You added XRC support 2+ years ago?! Yes, I must've missed it. You added it to wxEuphoria? I thought Matt enabled that.
Nope. It was Greg.
Matt
14. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by ghaberek (admin) Dec 15, 2011
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- Last edited Dec 16, 2011
I added XRC support over two years ago, and you just found it now?
You added XRC support 2+ years ago?! Yes, I must've missed it. You added it to wxEuphoria? I thought Matt enabled that.
Nope. It was Greg.
Matt
This whole problem of needing a good book, or guide, or comprehensive tutorial, whatever it may be... is quite the dilemma. For me, it falls into the list of my "if I only had enough time" projects: I know Euphoria, Win32Lib, and wxEuphoria inside-and-out, I've got a knack for writing and grammar, and I love telling people what to do err... helping people learn new things.
Euphoria may move along at a slower pace than other languages, but I'm confident that as we continue, we'll get there, to "that point".
And maybe one day I'll sit down and write that book...
-Greg
15. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by mwsgris Dec 15, 2011
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I added XRC support over two years ago, and you just found it now?
You added XRC support 2+ years ago?! Yes, I must've missed it. You added it to wxEuphoria? I thought Matt enabled that.
Nope. It was Greg.
Matt
Please check the file history of wxXmlResource.cpp.
16. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by mattlewis (admin) Dec 16, 2011
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I added XRC support over two years ago, and you just found it now?
You added XRC support 2+ years ago?! Yes, I must've missed it. You added it to wxEuphoria? I thought Matt enabled that.
Nope. It was Greg.
Please check the file history of wxXmlResource.cpp.
D'oh! You're right. Sorry about that.
changeset: 201:3906864bcda9 user: mwsgris date: Tue May 20 14:56:13 2008 +0000 summary: Wrapped wxCaret. Added wxAboutBox and XRC support.
Matt
17. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by mwsgris Dec 16, 2011
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I added XRC support over two years ago, and you just found it now?
You added XRC support 2+ years ago?! Yes, I must've missed it. You added it to wxEuphoria? I thought Matt enabled that.
Nope. It was Greg.
Please check the file history of wxXmlResource.cpp.
D'oh! You're right. Sorry about that.
changeset: 201:3906864bcda9 user: mwsgris date: Tue May 20 14:56:13 2008 +0000 summary: Wrapped wxCaret. Added wxAboutBox and XRC support.
Matt
No problem :) Wow, it's been over three years? btw I do not have much time these days for development, but if you need any testing on a mac let me know.
18. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by ghaberek (admin) Dec 16, 2011
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D'oh! You're right. Sorry about that.
changeset: 201:3906864bcda9 user: mwsgris date: Tue May 20 14:56:13 2008 +0000 summary: Wrapped wxCaret. Added wxAboutBox and XRC support.
Matt
No problem :) Wow, it's been over three years? btw I do not have much time these days for development, but if you need any testing on a mac let me know.
I'll concede XRC, but I wrapped wxCaret first. 
r288 | mwsgris | 2008-05-20 10:56:13 -0400 (Tue, 20 May 2008) | 1 line Wrapped wxCaret. Added wxAboutBox and XRC support.
r286 | ghaberek | 2008-05-08 10:21:44 -0400 (Thu, 08 May 2008) | 1 line Added wxCaret routines
-Greg
19. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by mwsgris Dec 16, 2011
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D'oh! You're right. Sorry about that.
changeset: 201:3906864bcda9 user: mwsgris date: Tue May 20 14:56:13 2008 +0000 summary: Wrapped wxCaret. Added wxAboutBox and XRC support.
Matt
No problem :) Wow, it's been over three years? btw I do not have much time these days for development, but if you need any testing on a mac let me know.
I'll concede XRC, but I wrapped wxCaret first.
r288 | mwsgris | 2008-05-20 10:56:13 -0400 (Tue, 20 May 2008) | 1 line Wrapped wxCaret. Added wxAboutBox and XRC support.
r286 | ghaberek | 2008-05-08 10:21:44 -0400 (Thu, 08 May 2008) | 1 line Added wxCaret routines
-Greg
LOL Okay, we're even. Whatever became of that editor you were working on?
20. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by ghaberek (admin) Dec 17, 2011
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LOL Okay, we're even. Whatever became of that editor you were working on?
I tried writing my own Syntax control in both wxEuphoria and wxWidgets (pure C++), and neither came out to my satisfaction. Then I was hoping to get wxScintilla wrapped as an add-on library to wxEuphoria, but that proved quite overwhelming (although I was finally successful in building an add-on library to wxEuphoria). Recently, Matt modified Don Phillips' Syntax control that is used in the Win32Lib IDE for his own wxIDE, so I've considered using that as well. But now we're working on building wxEuphoria with wxWidgets 2.9, I think I'll finally get wxScintilla/wxSTC wrapped now that it's part of the main library. I'm also hashing out the details for something more than a simple editor. 
-Greg
21. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by xnfec Feb 14, 2012
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What Euphoria needs is a cook-book. It is easy enough to learn the basics but after that you need a large number of examples of how to do things. Once people start cobbling together code and getting things done then the rest will follow. All it needs is a wiki-style page with an index. People could add to it and comment at their leisure.
22. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Feb 14, 2012
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... All it needs is a wiki-style page with an index. People could add to it and comment at their leisure.
23. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by xnfec Feb 14, 2012
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maybe more like this: http://access.mvps.org/access/
or like this:
24. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by xnfec Feb 15, 2012
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Actually, I found this:
http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Euphoria
which is very good. A bit heavy on the algorithms perhaps and not quite what I would want in a cookbook - more how to do ftp in euphoria, or how to scrape data from a web page - but useful nonetheless.
25. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Feb 15, 2012
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What is the difference between those pages and the link I supplied? If it is just content then the Euphoria page is a wiki so you or anyone else can update it with better content.
26. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by xnfec Feb 15, 2012
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It is not just content. The rosetta page has a lot of good things but they are narrow in scope. The rebol page has a very wide range of examples. I was wondering if Euphoria had a similar range of applications and if they might be profitably collected over a period in one place so that people could use them to build with and thus encourage the use of Euphoria.
I've only just started looking at it again, though I've installed it it several times over the years. Unfortunately I'm a bit of a cut and paste programmer and a bit phobic about typing code from scratch. So I was looking for things I might use.
27. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by mattlewis (admin) Feb 15, 2012
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It is not just content. The rosetta page has a lot of good things but they are narrow in scope. The rebol page has a very wide range of examples. I was wondering if Euphoria had a similar range of applications and if they might be profitably collected over a period in one place so that people could use them to build with and thus encourage the use of Euphoria.
I've only just started looking at it again, though I've installed it it several times over the years. Unfortunately I'm a bit of a cut and paste programmer and a bit phobic about typing code from scratch. So I was looking for things I might use.
Have you looked at the Archive that RDS maintains?
Matt
29. Re: Euphoria Books
- Posted by BRyan Feb 23, 2012
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Here is another tutorial site
[http://www.tutorialspoint.com/euphoria/index.htm]
