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2. Re: Why learn Euphoria???

• Posted by Euphoric_Kid Nov 03, 2011
• 2284 views

When someone ask me which language you are learning and I say Euphoria they told me to learn language like C,Python. What should I say to them why I am learning Euphoria?

4. Re: Why learn Euphoria???

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Nov 03, 2011
• 2261 views

Compared to Python: It's substantially faster than Python and if you wish it translates to C and compiles as a single executable (like C) for even greater speed and ease of distribution. Your users do not need to have Python installed. It can interface with C libraries much easier than Python.

Compared to C: It's much easier than C. You will have programs that are more readable and easier to maintain than in C. They will also be done sooner.

Jeremy

6. Re: Why learn Euphoria???

• Posted by m_sabal Nov 03, 2011
• 2227 views

I am the MIS Manager (both hardware and software) for a decent sized family owned manufacturing business. Using Euphoria has enabled us to save literally thousands of dollars in both staff time and outside development costs. Using Windows services, I am able to write an automated program in Euphoria that keeps an eye on critical systems and operations, saving our company tens of thousands of dollars in potential compliance charges. These things would be difficult, much more expensive, or even impossible in the other languages you refer to.

8. Re: Why learn Euphoria???

• Posted by Euphoric_Kid Nov 03, 2011
• 2222 views

Thank You to all. This is what I wanted to listen. Yes, One day Euphoria will be famous like C.

10. Re: Why learn Euphoria???

• Posted by Jerry_Story Nov 03, 2011
• 2153 views

If you use Euphoria, to make a high quality program with widgets, you need a library such as wxEuphoria or EuGTK.

With wxEuphoria on Linux, I and users always have the problem of re-installing it. Automating the installation of wxEuphoria would help, but I don't expect that to happen soon.

So I went to EuGTK because doesn't require installation, just put the files in the package. But now EuGTK doesn't work because now I have gtk3 instead of gtk2. I got it to almost work, but not fully. Will anyone update EuGTK?

So what's left? Most programming languages are too complexicated for me.

The future of programming is probably not desktop but web, programs run in a browser. That means Javascript, PHP, or some future language such as Google Dart. I never was able to get PHP happening on my computer. Dart looks like another complexicated language.

I made a few programs in Javascript, but I never figured out how to make a Javascript program with a bunch of .js files that interact well together, in other words, global data. Besides that, Javascript seems clumsy in the way it interacts with html and xml.

Bottom line: There doesn't seem to be any such thing as a really good programming language. Either it is too complexicated or something must be installed that can't be installed or it can't do what I want.

12. Re: Why learn Euphoria???

• Posted by useless Nov 03, 2011
• 2170 views

I can't help thinking the battery powered devices will be merely interfaces. They upload the data to "the cloud" where all munging and problem solving takes place, where the real-time database lives, and the results sent to the battery powered user. Dig into Siri or Iris, i'll bet they are merely pretty faces. Letting the code loose in the wild that does the heavy lifting behind the scenes would be disasterous for those holding Siri's ownership papers.

For applications that involve heavy lifting, like error-free voice recognition, real time data collection and normalization, and 24-7 availability, you need a set of computers that stay up and are reachable in a reasonable time from the cell phone network or wired wifi outposts. This is quite similar to a botnet doing productive things and allowing an API for data queries. In my experience, no one using Euphoria is going to do this. The closest Euphoria got was hackserv (bjackson, 1999) and a few iffy client-server apps 10 years ago.

useless

14. Re: Why learn Euphoria???

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Nov 04, 2011
• 2088 views

Um, PHP? PHP is not the web. Some people use it to write web applications, but it's just a small percentage of websites. With euweb you can develop blazingly fast web applications in Euphoria making use of HTML, HTML5, AJAX, JavaScript, jQuery, YUI and just about any other HTML technology available.

Benchmarking Euphoria on the web compared to PHP on the web is almost laughable how much faster Euphoria is for that task, and easier!

Jeremy

16. Re: Why learn Euphoria???

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Nov 04, 2011
• 2085 views

Hm, I said the wrong thing. Euweb is this software we are using right now. I meant WebClay. WebClay is a web framework written in Euphoria. EuWeb (a product) is written using WebClay.

WebClay may be a little rough around the edges but is fully usable and very easy to use, much easier than straight PHP and much easier than many PHP web frameworks. Plus, it's lightning fast compared to PHP.

About running them in Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Opera, etc... It already does that. You're doing it now. What browser are you using? openeuphoria.org is run w/WebClay, i.e. Euphoria. Has been since its creation.

Jeremy

18. Re: Why learn Euphoria???

• Posted by irv Nov 10, 2011
• 1835 views

I have EuGTK running with 3.0 now. *IF* I can find some documentation on 3.0 that isn't missing big chunks of info, I'll be able to update EuGTK soon.

20. Re: Why learn Euphoria???

• Posted by mattlewis (admin) Nov 10, 2011
• 1814 views

It's GTK+3.0 that he's referring to.

Matt

22. Re: Why learn Euphoria???

• Posted by Euphoric_Kid Nov 10, 2011
• 1791 views

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