1. just my 2 cent
- Posted by andi49 Mar 09, 2011
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Hallo I'am an Euphoria Programmer as an Hobbyist. Since about 3 years i came up and down (as my family gives me time) to do some programming. Just for fun. I came from the TurboPascal times from the 90's and 80's. Did some Delphi and hate "C". I still use Eu 3.1 becouse the IDE and a lot of Code depends on it.
I think the Core Language of Euphoria 4.0 is real great.
But nowadays you need more then a good core. Win32lib should be a core part. An IDE is also a basic part. If you want new People to join Euphoria, i think you need this.
The "EU" in Euphoria means "EndUser" but Calling Windows API by hand and Peeking and Poking is not for "End Users".
So thank you for your good work Just my 2 cent Andreas
2. Re: just my 2 cent
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Mar 11, 2011
- 1425 views
The problem I see with win32lib being core is:
- It's very large, do you want the core developers spending their time on this vs. fixing/enhancing Euphoria as a language?
- It's only one of a few GUI libraries for Windows
- We live in a cross-platform world, of which Euphoria is a good citizen being able to run your code on Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X
What I think needs to happen is Euphoria users need to really spread the word about Euphoria. If they are professional programmers, work on getting it into their office. If they are hobby programmers, share your programs with others and let them know it was written in Euphoria. Read programming forums, comment on Euphoria there, work on the benchmarks and head up a team to put Euphoria on the computer language shoot out.
Then, once we have more developers, some of these 3rd party tools will have a much larger contributing base and be great addons to core Euphoria. Derek alone is working on win32lib. Maybe those who use it continually should spend some time in the core of it and show Derek that you really like it by helping to maintain it. The same for other 3rd party libraries that you may use.
Jeremy
3. Re: just my 2 cent
- Posted by tbohon Mar 11, 2011
- 1411 views
I agree with you, Jeremy - wider adoption and more awareness will inevitably create opportunities/motivation for some really good IDE/RAD development.
Personally I really really like Andrea Cini's EuWinGUI except for the lack of being able to drag controls around. Clicking buttons tends to get a bit tedious on a complicated layout ... but the rest of it is outstanding IMHO and the code generated is clean and really easy to follow/understand.
Bottom line from my perspective: let's advertise OpenEuphoria, get it "out there" and see what happens.
Tom
