1. Full Text Searching (including the manual, wiki, forum, news and tickets)
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Nov 05, 2010
- 1354 views
After a few conversations on IRC I learned that not everyone knows about the full text searching. I'll describe it a bit since I just added the capability of searching the manual as well.
The interface is located to the right. It's labeled "Search," has an entry box for the search terms and two buttons, one to "Go" and another for "Options."
The entry box and the Go button are pretty easy to understand. The Options button (opts) will make visible a series of checkboxes. Items that are checked will be searched. Right now possible options are News, Tickets, Forum, Wiki and Manual. All are checked by default. You can search any combination of those items. When searching from the manual the Options box does not appear. The search from the manual will search the manual only.
The manual search is brand new and still has some issues for finding things easily. For example, searching for "socket" will show all sorts of items because every item (almost) contains the words "include socket.e.", thus almost every item appears. Work is being done to make the interface easier to use.
Now, about the actual search query box. It is a full text search. That means you can add modifiers to words and groupings. For example:
| Search Box | Result |
|---|---|
| john doe | Contains "john" or "doe" |
| +john doe | Contains "john" and entries with "doe" also are ranked higher than those without |
| +john +doe | Contains both "john" and "doe" |
| +john -doe | Contains "john" but does not contain "doe" |
| +john +(doe smith) | Contains "john" and either "doe" or "smith" |
| +john -(doe smith) | Contains "john" and not "doe" or "smith" |
| john >doe | Contains "john" or "doe" but ranks items matching "doe" higher |
| john <doe | Contains "john" or "doe" but ranks items matching "doe" lower |
I'll let your imagination run here. I'm sure that you can figure out all sorts of things from here.
Jeremy
2. Re: Full Text Searching (including the manual, wiki, forum, news and tickets)
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Nov 06, 2010
- 1316 views
If you know the method you are looking for, just enter the method name alone. The search is now much smarter and will rank functions, procedures and types by that name above all other results in the manual. For example:
Jeremy
3. Re: Full Text Searching (including the manual, wiki, forum, news and tickets)
- Posted by irv Nov 06, 2010
- 1310 views
Well, I'm almost certain someone posted here recently about a 64-bit version of 4.0 being available either "pretty soon now" or something similar. A search for 64 or 64-bit returns nothing.
Was I imagining this?
4. Re: Full Text Searching (including the manual, wiki, forum, news and tickets)
- Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Nov 06, 2010
- 1228 views
Well, I'm almost certain someone posted here recently about a 64-bit version of 4.0 being available either "pretty soon now" or something similar. A search for 64 or 64-bit returns nothing.
Was I imagining this?
No, the post was here. Somewhere...
5. Re: Full Text Searching (including the manual, wiki, forum, news and tickets)
- Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Nov 06, 2010
- 1225 views
Well, I'm almost certain someone posted here recently about a 64-bit version of 4.0 being available either "pretty soon now" or something similar. A search for 64 or 64-bit returns nothing.
Was I imagining this?
No, the post was here. Somewhere...
Try searching with the quoted key "64-bit".
6. Re: Full Text Searching (including the manual, wiki, forum, news and tickets)
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Nov 06, 2010
- 1229 views
Well, I'm almost certain someone posted here recently about a 64-bit version of 4.0 being available either "pretty soon now" or something similar. A search for 64 or 64-bit returns nothing.
Was I imagining this?
Here's some results 64bit search. The problem is that by default the full text searching in MySQL only indexes words 4 characters and above. So searching for 3, 2 or 1 character words does not work. Still doing some research about the best way to proceed from there.
Jeremy
7. Re: Full Text Searching (including the manual, wiki, forum, news and tickets)
- Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Nov 06, 2010
- 1207 views
Try searching with the quoted key "64-bit".
No, that didn't work either, but searching for 64bit found some stuff.
8. Re: Full Text Searching (including the manual, wiki, forum, news and tickets)
- Posted by DanM Nov 07, 2010
- 1159 views
I can't recall exactly what the circumstances were, but at least once when I was trying to use the SEARCH function on the forum, I would like to have been able to search WITHIN the initial search results. I'm just thinking that in some instances such an ability might make a search easier.
It also might be useful to be able to ask for just TOPICS found (in forum searches), rather than having a list of identical topic titles reflecting each individual post under that particular topic. (just as an OPTION, not as the SOLE way of displaying forum search results) And in such an instance, it should be the FIRST post in a topic that's shown, and clicking on it should give ALL the posts then under that topic, automatically, not just the first one. (I realize you can click "thread" to get that.)
Dan
9. Re: Full Text Searching (including the manual, wiki, forum, news and tickets)
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Nov 07, 2010
- 1156 views
I can't recall exactly what the circumstances were, but at least once when I was trying to use the SEARCH function on the forum, I would like to have been able to search WITHIN the initial search results. I'm just thinking that in some instances such an ability might make a search easier.
You could append to your search, for example searching for "DanM" and then when you want to narrow it down further, do something like "+DanM +Euphoria +Linux" You can continue to add on until you get what you want.
It also might be useful to be able to ask for just TOPICS found (in forum searches), rather than having a list of identical topic titles reflecting each individual post under that particular topic. (just as an OPTION, not as the SOLE way of displaying forum search results) And in such an instance, it should be the FIRST post in a topic that's shown, and clicking on it should give ALL the posts then under that topic, automatically, not just the first one. (I realize you can click "thread" to get that.)
This is a good idea, I've created a ticket for it: ticket:330.
Jeremy
10. Re: Full Text Searching (including the manual, wiki, forum, news and tickets)
- Posted by DanM Nov 07, 2010
- 1133 views
I can't recall exactly what the circumstances were, but at least once when I was trying to use the SEARCH function on the forum, I would like to have been able to search WITHIN the initial search results. I'm just thinking that in some instances such an ability might make a search easier.
You could append to your search, for example searching for "DanM" and then when you want to narrow it down further, do something like "+DanM +Euphoria +Linux" You can continue to add on until you get what you want.
Ok, I'll try it that way; the reason I was thinking to search within original search results is because I would have searched for "DanM Euphoria Linux", and got WAY to many citations as a result.
Dan
