1. Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by CoJaBo Oct 09, 2009
- 1610 views
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
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Wow, that language sucks, it can't even run a website!
That is the first impression of Euphoria that many new users are going to get.
Just wanted to point that out.
Or does nobody care?
2. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Oct 09, 2009
- 1614 views
Although I think the wording of the original post could have been more politically correct, I agree with the sentiments expressed there-in.
We need to move to a new host ASAP. One that can support the forum as it has evolved.
3. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by ryanj Oct 10, 2009
- 1561 views
I'm getting tired of seeing "Internal Server Error" every few times I look at this site. What needs to be done to fix this?
4. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by Mike777b Oct 10, 2009
- 1529 views
I'm getting tired of seeing "Internal Server Error" every few times I look at this site. What needs to be done to fix this?
Could it be that there is something in the way that you are accessing the forum that is causing multiple hits in a short period of time? I rarely have this problem.
5. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by mattlewis (admin) Oct 10, 2009
- 1508 views
Could it be that there is something in the way that you are accessing the forum that is causing multiple hits in a short period of time? I rarely have this problem.
I don't think so. I get them fairly frequently simply using firefox to access the forum.
Matt
6. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Oct 10, 2009
- 1558 views
Could it be that there is something in the way that you are accessing the forum that is causing multiple hits in a short period of time? I rarely have this problem.
I don't think so. I get them fairly frequently simply using firefox to access the forum.
Matt
It would really help diagnosis the problem if when you get them you start recording a date/time. Then when you have a few stored up, let me know.
Jeremy
7. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by CoJaBo Oct 10, 2009
- 1534 views
I'm getting tired of seeing "Internal Server Error" every few times I look at this site. What needs to be done to fix this?
Me too, in fact when attempting to start this thread, I recieved the error no less than 4 times.
From what I understand, the problem is this-
The web host that OpenEuphoria.org runs on sucks. Epicly.
Appearently the host does not have proper resource management.
Other users on the system are able to use up all resources, and the host limits the number of processes that the OpenEu site can have running to something far too low.
But RobC will not give permission for it to be changed to a better one, therefore noone can do anything about it.
My recommendation would be to switch to another provider ASAP; perhaps a VPS-based one, as they tend to have much better resource management.
8. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Oct 10, 2009
- 1537 views
From what I understand, the problem is this-
The web host that OpenEuphoria.org runs on sucks. Epicly.
Appearently the host does not have proper resource management.
Other users on the system are able to use up all resources, and the host limits the number of processes that the OpenEu site can have running to something far too low.
That is exactly right.
My recommendation would be to switch to another provider ASAP; perhaps a VPS-based one, as they tend to have much better resource management.
A good VPS would be something like $33/mo. I haven't looked at the price of a dedicated server, but surely we'd prefer a dedicated server over a virtual private one? (Granted, a VPS is much cheaper, I get mine for about 4 British pounds a month.)
But RobC will not give permission for it to be changed to a better one, therefore noone can do anything about it.
Yeah, if I understand correctly, this is the major barrier to switching to a new provider. After all, Rob is the one who is paying for the current host.
And to be fair to the host, the issues we are seeing now are due to the upgraded forum which talks to an SQL server and runs a process per connection. Previously, we had just static HTML pages, so our requirements are lower. It's the need to run so many processes with the new euforum that is really hurting us.
(On the other hand, it is the host's fault we have to do this. With SCGI, we'd only have a handful of processes running long-term serving multiple connections and using up much less resources. But the host won't allow us to use something more efficient like SCGI, we must use the current, more resource heavy, CGI system that leaves us vunerable to this.)
9. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by useless Oct 10, 2009
- 1485 views
And to be fair to the host, the issues we are seeing now are due to the upgraded forum which talks to an SQL server and runs a process per connection. Previously, we had just static HTML pages, so our requirements are lower. It's the need to run so many processes with the new euforum that is really hurting us.
Has anyone else noticed every topic on the site has it's view counter go up at least once a day? With 1000's of topics, it's got to matter some. And lately, the "oldest" topics from yesterday aren't the "oldest" today; since yesterday 3 more topics have been added that are older. I'm talking 13years or more older.
This could be normal spider bot activity, like google, cuil, msn, yahoo, etc, there's 100's of them. Perhaps a restrictive robots.txt file is in order.
useless
10. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by ghaberek (admin) Oct 12, 2009
- 1399 views
Couldn't we use SourceForge's as the host and just redirect the openeuphoria.org domain name?
-Greg
11. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Oct 12, 2009
- 1368 views
Couldn't we use SourceForge's as the host and just redirect the openeuphoria.org domain name?
-Greg
Even if we could, Rob would still need to approve it. Without his permission, we can't redirect the domain somewhere else.
12. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by ghaberek (admin) Oct 12, 2009
- 1358 views
Even if we could, Rob would still need to approve it. Without his permission, we can't redirect the domain somewhere else.
Of course. But if Rob doesn't want to switch because of cost, then SourceForge is a good alternative, as it is free.
-Greg
13. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Oct 12, 2009
- 1378 views
Even if we could, Rob would still need to approve it. Without his permission, we can't redirect the domain somewhere else.
Of course. But if Rob doesn't want to switch because of cost, then SourceForge is a good alternative, as it is free.
-Greg
I think we are going to run some performance tests before we make a recommendation to Rob.
Jeremy
14. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by ghaberek (admin) Oct 13, 2009
- 1315 views
Today's minute-by-minute failure:
10:00 AM 10/13/2009 10:01 AM 10/13/2009 10:02 AM 10/13/2009 10:03 AM 10/13/2009 10:04 AM 10/13/2009
-Greg
15. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Oct 13, 2009
- 1318 views
Today's minute-by-minute failure:
10:00 AM 10/13/2009 10:01 AM 10/13/2009 10:02 AM 10/13/2009 10:03 AM 10/13/2009 10:04 AM 10/13/2009
-Greg
So the forum was up by 10:05 AM?
Forked into: Webhost Sucks
16. Re: Euphoria Sucks
- Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Oct 13, 2009
- 1331 views
Today's minute-by-minute failure:
10:00 AM 10/13/2009 10:01 AM 10/13/2009 10:02 AM 10/13/2009 10:03 AM 10/13/2009 10:04 AM 10/13/2009
-Greg
So the forum was up by 10:05 AM?
Well, you posted at 10:08 AM so I guess the forum was back up by then...
