OpenEuphoria

2. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by useless Aug 26, 2009
• 1403 views

Ok then... can you tell me why my request has been refused? It's been over an hour, both Derek and Jeremy have posted to the forum. No one has replied to this topic, and no one has applied the requested line of html. I'd have applied this code myself, but in the history of the wiki i have not been allowed to be a member.

useless

4. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by useless Aug 26, 2009
• 1334 views

Well, when you get around to it, tell me why it's so preferable that you throttle me, denying me the ability to apply the code myself, edit my own user profile on the wiki, or fix anything, even *spelling mistakes*, without a big public fight.

useless

6. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 26, 2009
• 1338 views

I just glanced through the user list. You are on the list w/o permission along with some others. Some others, who I know. I have enabled you and the others who I know. Yet, others still in the "new" status may be spammers. The wiki does not have spam control, so the way it's done is all new users do not have permissions until someone gives them permissions. The user list is not something anyone looks at on a routine basis, it's looked at when someone asks about their account.

Jeremy

8. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 26, 2009
• 1340 views

Hm. Did you just try? It says you are a validated user. Maybe I updated your account when I did kat's. I forget who all I authorized. I only remember it was people I knew.

Jeremy

10. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by unkmar Aug 26, 2009
• 1336 views

Ok, somehow when I originally logged in, I was kicked back out. I can edit pages now that I have logged in again.

12. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 26, 2009
• 1326 views

That's pretty weird.

http://openeuphoria.org/wiki/wiki.cgi

is the correct wiki link and it works fine here. I have not heard reports that it was not until now.

Does anyone else have an issue accessing: http://openeuphoria.org/wiki/wiki.cgi ?

Jeremy

14. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by useless Aug 26, 2009
• 1394 views

Well, the Creole for making html is borking up everything i do. It's such a simple line to add, but no way to do it in Creole. Even using {{{ }}} around a line made up of the <div....> doesn't work, because the Creole changes the < to $lt;. And i had to use a $ instead of a & because the Creole kept borking that up too.

Here's the page after doing as i asked, in plain html:

http://designerthinking.com/temp/wiki.html

The page links to the css on openeuphoria.org, but it's not a cross-site attack. To me, the page looks much better with the space.

useless

16. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Aug 26, 2009
• 1335 views

Everything? Really? ... everything?

By design, the creole-to-html program does not allow raw html code to exist in the marked-up text. If 'sanitizes' the generated text so that the only html that is eventually generated is under the control of the website and not the editor of the wiki page.

It is not creole that is disturbing the raw text for the &lt; but the forum software. I got around it by coding it as {{{&}}}lt;

18. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Aug 26, 2009
• 1303 views

Any style of Wiki markup, such as Creole, is not designed to be as powerful as HTML. At best, it is a subset of HTML capabilities. It is not expected that one can "generate nice looking pages exactly as desired" because that's not what wikis are about.

Good. Allowing anyone to embed arbitary HTML is a dangerous thing to do, so therefore we are not allowing that. Please note that Creole does have capabilities to allow such but that has not been exercised in the particular wiki.

Also note that Creole does not know anything about HTML. All it does is located segments of text that need some 'markup' processing and calls a user-defined routine to apply whatever to that text.

You seem to be implying that I (or we) suspect you of trying to trash the site. That is not the case. I know there may be other ways to trash a site but all we are doing by sanitizing the generated output of the wiki markup is remove one avenue of doing that. I do not pretend that this site is totally protected from malicious attacks.

20. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Aug 26, 2009
• 1327 views

Neither.

I have read your suggestion and have nothing to say about it at this point in time. I may devote some time in the future to think about it or I may not. I don't know yet. It is not a problem that I'm especially concerned about. There is the existing ability to edit ones own messages, so maybe that is a short term workaround.

22. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 26, 2009
• 1348 views

I just authorized it this morning. When you signup, you have an account but it's not authorized until someone does that manually. *Everyone* goes through that process, even Derek and Matt had to ask to have their "registered" accounts enabled to edit.

No one is singling you out causing you to not be able to edit the wiki. There were many others that I "authorized" at the exact same time you were. Those people, as well as you, were not able to edit. No one is telling you to not be part of the community. We want you a part of the community, that's why we have the forum, the wiki, that's why we added you as a developer to the Euphoria project!

Jeremy

24. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by CoJaBo Aug 26, 2009
• 1319 views

I get an "Internal Error" when attempting to login to the wiki:

http://openeuphoria.org/user/update_account.wc: 
Internal Error 
 
./../euweb/user_db.e:111 in function get_by_code()  
type_check failure, code is 0  
    code = 0 
    user =  
 
... called from ./../euweb/user.e:148 in function do_login()   
    data = 2 
    invars = 6 
    u =  
 
... called from ./../euweb/webclay/webclay.e:329 in procedure handle_request()   
 
... 

Also, isn't "{{{" supposed to make everything pre-formatted (like <pre>?). That doesn't seem to work either...

26. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 26, 2009
• 1285 views

Nothing, but it does have everything to do with you saying things such as "nobody wants me, I'm not allowed be part of a community, people are locking me out of the wiki on purpose, I can never do anything, etc..." If, you couldn't post, you weren't allowed on IRC (don't say you were banned! I was banned in the same manner you were, by an automated system), you weren't allowed in SVN, all your submissions were denied, etc... then I'd agree, but you have more access than 99% of euphoria developers do.

Jeremy

28. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by useless Aug 26, 2009
• 1285 views

But Derek said "There is the existing ability to edit ones own messages, so maybe that is a short term workaround." but there is no such feature in the wiki, and i never heard a wiki webpage being called a "message". This is either confusing topics, or talking down to me as if *i* don't know there is a difference.

I stand by my suggestion a RollBack button/feature be added to the wiki editor, for the reasons i gave.

useless

30. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 26, 2009
• 1369 views

I don't know what Derek was talking about. As for the RollBack button/feature, it already exists. Just view the history of the page. You can then see a diff of every single edit that took place to that page. Click on one. If you think that should be Rolled Back, then you click the Revert link.

This gives us the ability to take off 20 edits worth of spam, for instance, all in just a click or two.

Jeremy

32. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 26, 2009
• 1284 views

Ok. There is a bit of confusion here because we are still running two different systems, even though they look the same. The wiki is a product seperate from the forum still. It will be put into the same system soon! Until then, the wiki uses it's own authentication system.

Now, as for the error you got. I am not sure how you are able to post here when your account wasn't updated. Can you do me a favor? Logout and Log back in. Does the "Upgrade Account" come up again?

Ah.. Yes, {{{ not in column 1 signifies an inline no-wiki tag. When it's on column 1 and the only thing on that line, it's a block no-wiki tag.

Jeremy

34. Re: wiki front page

• Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Aug 26, 2009
• 1262 views

I was confused. It was 2:30am and I'd been up for 20+ hours and our conversation was in the forum and you mentioned forum in the same sentence as the Rollback button. I got lost.