1. New Website
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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Maybe we can keep web site related chatter here, and leave the 4.0 beta 1 release thread for beta 1 release.
Jeremy
2. Re: New Website
- Posted by useless Aug 12, 2009
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Ok, i don't like the timestamp, i don't have a clue what time zone that is in. I prefer the "hours ago" stamp.
useless
3. Re: New Website
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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Ok, i don't like the timestamp, i don't have a clue what time zone that is in. I prefer the "hours ago" stamp.
Hm, I hadn't thought of that, the hours ago dealing with time zone issues. Good point.
Jeremy
4. Re: New Website
- Posted by ghaberek (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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What happened to the little stars? I miss them now. 
And what about the Preview button? Can we get some formatting buttons, too?
5. Re: New Website
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 12, 2009
- 1475 views
What happened to the little stars? I miss them now.
And what about the Preview button? Can we get some formatting buttons, too?
Here's the history of openeuphoria.org:
- Installed a new product (wiki), we used the old listfilt stuff for the forum still
- Got hacked, everything was deleted by the hacker
- Time frame to get everything back was terrible
- Jeremy hacked together EUforum under severe time constraints and produced a working product, but not a pretty product in the actual source code
- Features were added, added, added all on top of a hacked together piece of software that had all of about 5 minutes planning because the first version was deployed in 40 minutes
- Jeremy began getting tired of maintaining such a lousy program, so he wrote webclay, a nice web framework written in Euphoria.
- Jeremy then wrote euweb using webclay, which is the website that we are using now
- Yesterday, a new, well designed, easy to maintain, not as functional forum was deployed
So... Now that we have a well designed application that's actually fun to work on, we will begin the feature addition stage again. In some ways the new system is already nicer (spam control, editing messages, forking messages) and in other ways it's still lacking (message list view, read/not read indicators, preview). We will get there. I am hoping also, now that we have something I would not be ashamed to show the source of to someone, that multiple people can help with the web site and we can really boom. If not, I'll pluck along at the feature set, but if so... we can really fly. I expect to add a feature every few days until we are pretty happy with the system.
Jeremy
6. Re: New Website
- Posted by _tom (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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The quick links for the manual are wrong.
getting:
openeuphoria.org/manual/eu400_0059.html
want:
openeuphoria.org/docs/eu400_59.html#2115_sequencecentricroutines
7. Re: New Website
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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Ok, i don't like the timestamp, i don't have a clue what time zone that is in. I prefer the "hours ago" stamp.
Kat, the hours ago fix is deployed, thanks for the suggestion. I hadn't really thought of it as solving the "timezone" problem, but it does!
Jeremy
8. Re: New Website
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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And what about the Preview button?
Post and edit now have preview buttons.
Jeremy
9. Re: New Website
- Posted by raseu Aug 12, 2009
- 1404 views
Nice!, Written using euphoria as well!
Would like the new post stars back though.
10. Re: New Website (little star)
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 12, 2009
- 1386 views
What happened to the little stars? I miss them now.
I added the little star back (kind of). This star appears based on if you have visited the link or not.
Jeremy
11. Re: New Website
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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Can we get some formatting buttons, too?
We had formatting buttons at one point but they didn't seem to work on all the different browsers. I just added a "Common Formatting" cheat sheet above the body, and then "More Common Formatting" below the post form.
Jeremy
12. Re: New Website
- Posted by ghaberek (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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Another thing: the page header is a bit tall. It's full of nothingness.
I played around and changed the height of header and header_inner to 64px instead of 122px. Then I set the main_inner padding-top to 20px instead of 3.5em.
(click for larger image)
Then I went a step further and set the #menu li a padding to 0.25em 1.4em which got the menu buttons down to a more appropriate size for the smaller header.
(click for larger image)
Let me know what you think...
-Greg
13. Re: New Website
- Posted by euphoric (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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Another thing: the page header is a bit tall. It's full of nothingness.
I like the efficient use of real estate, so Greg's changes are a good thing. 
14. Re: New Website
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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Another thing: the page header is a bit tall. It's full of nothingness.
I agree but am no guru Euphoric agrees, so it must be the best course of action to take... Can you send me the necessary changes? (Please make sure you have the latest CSS as I have applied a few style changes recently). When you sent the changes, I'll apply them right away. jeremy...@...cowgar sdot com
Jeremy
P.S. We need an email obfuscator, anyone have a good method? Please fork this thread and let's talk about it.
15. Re: New Website
- Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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Can we get some formatting buttons, too?
We had formatting buttons at one point but they didn't seem to work on all the different browsers.
I think that was due to some bad javascript code and not the browsers' fault.
16. Re: New Website
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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I think that was due to some bad javascript code and not the browsers' fault.
Yes, but no one wanted to spend the time to make the code cross browser happy, so the cheat sheet text was installed instead of the buttons, because they caused more "this button doesn't work" type reports than we wanted to deal with.
Jeremy
17. Re: New Website
- Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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I'm not a fan of the threaded-only view of posts. I really prefer a time-ordered view of messages rather than time-within-thread order. Is the removal of a message list view temporary or was that deliberate?
18. Re: New Website
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 12, 2009
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I'm not a fan of the threaded-only view of posts. I really prefer a time-ordered view of messages rather than time-within-thread order. Is the removal of a message list view temporary or was that deliberate?
I was going to see how many complaints came in. So far you and Matt are the old fogeys. The type you are describing is pretty easy to implement, however.
Jeremy
19. Re: New Website
- Posted by ghaberek (admin) Aug 12, 2009
- 1375 views
I agree but am no guru Euphoric agrees, so it must be the best course of action to take... Can you send me the necessary changes? (Please make sure you have the latest CSS as I have applied a few style changes recently). When you sent the changes, I'll apply them right away. jeremy...@...cowgar sdot com
Jeremy
Updates sent.
-Greg
20. Re: New Website
- Posted by euphoric (admin) Aug 12, 2009
- 1338 views
I'm not a fan of the threaded-only view of posts. I really prefer a time-ordered view of messages rather than time-within-thread order. Is the removal of a message list view temporary or was that deliberate?
I was going to see how many complaints came in. So far you and Matt are the old fogeys. The type you are describing is pretty easy to implement, however.
Jeremy
I way prefer the time-ordered view of messages as well. By far. Now, on a forum that has higher traffic, the threaded view might be optimal and desired. But not here. Not yet anyway.
21. Re: New Website
- Posted by Jerry_Story Aug 12, 2009
- 1325 views
The new website could use a bigger font so it's easier to read.
22. Re: New Website
- Posted by gbonvehi Aug 12, 2009
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- Last edited Aug 13, 2009
Hey there, terrific job! Well done! I really didn't see this coming
Just a hint, you could use a smaller header, instead of 122px you could try 72px so it takes less space on a widescreen monitor.
Keep it coming, I'll be sure testing 4.0 version as soon as I finish some work I've assigned.
Cheers & thanks
Guillermo Bonvehi
23. Re: New Website
- Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 13, 2009
- 1281 views
Updates sent.
Updates applied.
Thanks Greg,
Jeremy
24. Re: New Website
- Posted by Jerry_Story Aug 13, 2009
- 1278 views
The new website could use a bigger font so it's easier to read.
Or, I can use ctrl + to enlarge the font, and ctrl 0 when I exit this website.
25. Re: New Website
- Posted by m_sabal Aug 13, 2009
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I was going to see how many complaints came in. So far you and Matt are the old fogeys. The type you are describing is pretty easy to implement, however.
Jeremy
+1 complaint
26. Re: New Website
- Posted by RStowasser Aug 18, 2009
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Hi Jeremy,
I am not sure if you have already planned some changes for the new website, so maybe my complaints are obsolete.
If I click on the tab named wiki, my browser will not find the website (IE 8):
Die angefragte Internetseite "openeuphoria.org/wiki/wiki.cgi" konnte nicht gefunden werden.
It works nevertheless somehow if I am logged in as user. It first shows the above message and if I click the go back arrow I get the Wiki site.
The Search and Quick Links look ok in the home and forum sections, but are on the wrong places in the manual section (they are below: 1 Euphoria Programming Language). Moreover the Search EditText and go Button overlap the text: Language. I use a resolution of 1280*1024 pixels.
I also miss the message view and the link to rapideuphoria.com. Could bug tracker tab be replaced with this link, and the links to bug tracker and developers discussions placed to the Quick Links?
Roland
