1. I'm back
Hi all,
It's Dan Moyer, I'm back, with some questions,
but first I'd like to apologize for leaving the forum without any explanation.
After my father had a couple of heart attacks and a quad bypass some years back,
he never seemed to recover completely mentally, and was eventually determined
to have Alzheimers.
I helped my mother (who's now almost completely blind) care for him as much as I
could,
but eventually we weren't able to get him out of bed & had to find a nursing
home
for him. During that time I found I had less and less time & inclination to do
any
programming, so that's why I left the forum.
My dad was in the nursing home for over a year when his doctor advised us to
apply for
hospice care for him, as his heart condition was worsening quickly. He died
soon after
that, early this year.
Now I'm working on a program to assist my mother, & I'll post those questions
separately
in their own threads.
Dan
2. Re: I'm back
Hi Dan,
Welcome back, but sorry to hear about your losses.
I've had the same here...dad about two months ago too.
Also, the most beautiful woman i've ever seen lost about 2 weeks ago.
She was from Brazil and i was learning the language to be able to
talk to her better. Moved out of her sisters house and didnt tell
me where she was going!
Anyway, isnt there a recorder program that comes with Windows
or did they stop shipping that? Or maybe it came with the
sound card? You could record wav's with it. Im sure i had it
with Win98 but now with XP im not so sure, but it probably
works in XP too. If you need a copy let me know.
Take care,
Al
And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!
My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
From "Black Knight":
"I can live with losing the good fight,
but i can not live without fighting it".
"Well on second thought, maybe not."
3. Re: I'm back
Al Getz wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Welcome back, but sorry to hear about your losses.
> I've had the same here...dad about two months ago too.
> Also, the most beautiful woman i've ever seen lost about 2 weeks ago.
> She was from Brazil and i was learning the language to be able to
> talk to her better. Moved out of her sisters house and didnt tell
> me where she was going!
>
> Anyway, isnt there a recorder program that comes with Windows
> or did they stop shipping that? Or maybe it came with the
> sound card? You could record wav's with it. Im sure i had it
> with Win98 but now with XP im not so sure, but it probably
> works in XP too. If you need a copy let me know.
>
>
> Al
>
>
> "Well on second thought, maybe not."
Al,
Sorry to hear about your losses too, what a bummer.
re the recorder in Windows: I *am* using that to record .wav files to *use*
in various programs, for spoken output, but what I need is a way to allow
a EUPHORIA PROGRAM to turn on the microphone & start recording voice input &
then save that to a wave file, so that the user of the program can save
vocal "notes" that can then be retrieved by that program.
Dan
4. Re: I'm back
Dan Moyer wrote:
>
> Al Getz wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > Welcome back, but sorry to hear about your losses.
> > I've had the same here...dad about two months ago too.
> > Also, the most beautiful woman i've ever seen lost about 2 weeks ago.
> > She was from Brazil and i was learning the language to be able to
> > talk to her better. Moved out of her sisters house and didnt tell
> > me where she was going!
> >
> > Anyway, isnt there a recorder program that comes with Windows
> > or did they stop shipping that? Or maybe it came with the
> > sound card? You could record wav's with it. Im sure i had it
> > with Win98 but now with XP im not so sure, but it probably
> > works in XP too. If you need a copy let me know.
> >
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> > "Well on second thought, maybe not."
>
>
> Al,
>
> Sorry to hear about your losses too, what a bummer.
>
> re the recorder in Windows: I *am* using that to record .wav files to *use*
> in various programs, for spoken output, but what I need is a way to allow
> a EUPHORIA PROGRAM to turn on the microphone & start recording voice input &
> then save that to a wave file, so that the user of the program can save
> vocal "notes" that can then be retrieved by that program.
>
> Dan
Hello Dan,
I'm also sorry to hear about your losses. Both my parents pass on about ten
years ago so I've kind of gotten over that. They both passed young though.
Mom 52 (breast cancer), Dad 64 (car accident) so I felt like I like I was
cheated a little bit.
Any way did you check the archives?
\http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=voice
C Bouzy has a Voice_Check() that may or may not be what you want.
Don Cole
Bonds > Ruth.
Giants STILL in last place
Hmmmmmmmm!
5. Re: I'm back
don cole wrote:
> Hello Dan,
>
> I'm also sorry to hear about your losses. Both my parents pass on about ten
> years ago so I've kind of gotten over that. They both passed young though.
> Mom 52 (breast cancer), Dad 64 (car accident) so I felt like I like I was
> cheated
> a little bit.
>
> Any way did you check the archives?
>
> \<a
> href="http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=voice">http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=voice</a>
>
> C Bouzy has a Voice_Check() that may or may not be what you want.
>
> Don Cole
> Bonds > Ruth.
> Giants STILL in last place
> Hmmmmmmmm!
Don,
Thanks, gotta agree with "cheated".
I had checked out C Bouzy Speech Library, and although I didn't look
specifically at Voice_Check() itself, it appeared that the library "only"
deals with text-to-speech and speech-to-text, which, while interesting in
itself, isn't without problems in the actual translation from vocal input
to text (ie, it makes some mistakes). So while that approach would save
a lot of disk space, in contrast to saving the vocal input as .wav, it would
also be like translating a piece of English text to Russian, and then
the Russian back into English...you might very likely NOT
get back what you started with.
I figure if I can get a program to save vocal input to a file, it would be a
lot easier for my mother to understand her own voice when the file is
retrieved, than if her vocal input were translated into text (with mistakes),
and then later back to robot sound from the text with mistakes.
Dan
6. Re: I'm back
Dan Moyer wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> It's Dan Moyer, I'm back, with some questions,
> but first I'd like to apologize for leaving the forum without any explanation.
>
> After my father had a couple of heart attacks and a quad bypass some years
> back,
> he never seemed to recover completely mentally, and was eventually determined
>
> to have Alzheimers.
>
> I helped my mother (who's now almost completely blind) care for him as much
> as I could,
> but eventually we weren't able to get him out of bed & had to find a nursing
> home
> for him. During that time I found I had less and less time & inclination to
> do any
> programming, so that's why I left the forum.
>
> My dad was in the nursing home for over a year when his doctor advised us to
> apply for
> hospice care for him, as his heart condition was worsening quickly. He died
> soon after
> that, early this year.
>
> Now I'm working on a program to assist my mother, & I'll post those questions
> separately
> in their own threads.
>
> Dan
Hi, Dan.
Sorry to hear these bad news from you, but happy to have you again in the forum.
I also remained some time only watching the forum, but not for any personal
mishap.
Only my interests shifted somewhat.
Regards.
7. Re: I'm back
Hi again Dan,
Yeah, i know what you mean about "cheated".
I find programming does take my mind off of things a little
though, so get back into it. Get deeper into things with
programming and it might help you too. Perhaps start a
new Library? Something you always wanted to do and never
got to it?
It's nice to see you are back in any case...
Take care,
Al
And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!
My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
From "Black Knight":
"I can live with losing the good fight,
but i can not live without fighting it".
"Well on second thought, maybe not."
8. I'm back
Hehehe ... subject lines says it all.
I've been gone a couple of months, (personal reasons) but the hiatus is
over, and I have returned. I haven't had a chance to do much
programming during that time, but I'm firing up the old engine again.
Have a wonderful day!
Travis Beaty
Mason City, Iowa
ICQ: 160291341
9. Re: I'm back
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:55:42 -0600, Travis Beaty <t_beaty at mchsi.com>
wrote:
>
>Hehehe ... subject lines says it all.
Hehehe ... you have *NO* idea what you missed 
Pete
10. Re: I'm back
On 22 Jan 2003, at 11:55, Travis Beaty wrote:
>
> Hehehe ... subject lines says it all.
>
> I've been gone a couple of months, (personal reasons) but the hiatus is
> over, and I have returned. I haven't had a chance to do much
> programming during that time, but I'm firing up the old engine again.
>
> Have a wonderful day!
>
>
Hi Travis!
You missed a lot of fun. What's up? I thought you were buried under
snow... :)
Welcome back, stay longer this time. ;)
-- Euler
--
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\ / campaign against HTML | Caixa Postal 232
X eMail, HTML news, and | 35701-970 Sete Lagoas, MG, Brasil
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11. Re: I'm back
Euler German wrote:
>Hi Travis!
>
>You missed a lot of fun. What's up? I thought you were buried under
>snow... :)
>
Actually, believe it or not, at the moment there is absolutely no snow
on the ground. However, the temperature outside as I type this is -7 F.
I've had quite a time of it, but everything seems to have worked out for
the best, and I'm back for a good long time now, hopefully. ;) Note I've
got a new email addy ... will discuss everything in detail via private post!
\*/ The business tie | Travis Beaty
x campaign against sex, | 123 Somewhere Rd.
/ \ drugs, rock and roll, | Mason City, Iowa, USA
\ / and unnessarily verbose | Swiss Bank Account No. 12332111011
" mimes |
12. Re: I'm back
On 22 Jan 2003, at 20:33, Travis Beaty wrote:
> \*/ The business tie | Travis Beaty
> x campaign against sex, | 123 Somewhere Rd.
> / \ drugs, rock and roll, | Mason City, Iowa, USA
> \ / and unnessarily verbose | Swiss Bank Account No. 12332111011
> " mimes |
>
LOL !
--
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\ / campaign against HTML | Caixa Postal 232
X eMail, HTML news, and | 35701-970 Sete Lagoas, MG, Brasil
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13. I'm back
Jiri Babor writes:
> Oh boy, won't the boss be really pissed off when he
> comes back from his job hunting expedition?! He will probably
> regret his unfortunate throw-away line about 'armchair
> language designers' for the rest of his life...
Junko and I are back from a quick *vacation* in
New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island (Canada).
These are nice places to visit, but they aren't good places
to find a job, unless you like potato farming or lobster fishing. 
I quickly scanned the mailing list (good luck with Py, Mr Cuny),
but I still have a backlog of personal e-mail, so please be patient
if you sent me e-mail last week. I'll get to it soon.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
14. I'm back
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Hi all. After a crazy summer, and loosing the friend that I was studding =
Euphoria with to cancer I'm back to try to learn this language again. I =
was trying to catch up on things by reading the archives. It's good to =
see things progressing. The translator, IDE, and library upgrades ect.=20
I can't resist adding to the DOS Windows war by saying that I love DOS. =
It's stable, has some multitasking capabilities, is easer to program =
with, uses less memory ect. Unfortunately due to my disability I can =
only use a mouse. I am writing this with a keyboard emulator, made for =
Windows. The DOS one I used years ago couldn't handle anything but text =
mode so it was useless for anything graphic. Heck this thing chokes =
sometimes because it has to stay on top of everything else. So I'm going =
to study Euphoria in DOS text mode to start. When I get in to graphics =
I'm not sure how I'll do i/o. I may try Linux but the keyboard emulator =
I found isn't that good.
Any way the dumb question today. How do you dump a sequence? Say you use =
getc to keep appending a sequence then want to write it to file and =
empty the sequence for reuse. Also is=20
append in_line =3D (in_line, c)=20
legal? I want to write a program that lets me take a forwarded email, =
saved as text, then read it in a sequence a getc at a time less all =
those >. After say you get 80 characters add a return then dump it to an =
out file and reuse the sequence for the next line. Here's my scribbles, =
I know it need a LOT of work[8=3D]
sequence in_line {}
integer fn, fn2
constant ERROR =3D 2
fn =3D open("infile.txt,r)
if fn =3D -1 then
puts(ERROR, "couldn't open infile\n")
else
add_c
end if
fn2 =3D open_"outfile.txt,w)
if fn2 =3D -1 then
puts(ERROR, "couldn't open outfile\n")
end if
procedure add_c(integer c)
if length (in_line) <79 then
c =3D getc(fn)
append in_line =3D (in_line, c)
elsif in_line >79 then dump_line
end if
end procedure
produre dump_line()
puts(fn2, out_line)
=20
end procedure
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<META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all. After a crazy summer, and =
loosing the=20
friend that I was studding Euphoria with to cancer I'm back to try to =
learn this=20
language again. I was trying to catch up on things by reading the =
archives. It's=20
good to see things progressing. The translator, IDE, and library =
upgrades ect.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't resist adding to the DOS =
Windows war by=20
saying that I love DOS. It's stable, has some multitasking capabilities, =
is=20
easer to program with, uses less memory ect. Unfortunately due to my =
disability=20
I can only use a mouse. I am writing this with a keyboard emulator, made =
for=20
Windows. The DOS one I used years ago couldn't handle anything but text =
mode so=20
it was useless for anything graphic. Heck this thing chokes sometimes =
because it=20
has to stay on top of everything else. So I'm going to study Euphoria in =
DOS=20
text mode to start. When I get in to graphics I'm not sure how I'll do =
i/o. I=20
may try Linux but the keyboard emulator I found isn't that =
good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any way the dumb question today. How do =
you dump a=20
sequence? Say you use getc to keep appending a sequence then want to =
write it to=20
file and empty the sequence for reuse. Also is </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>append in_line =3D (in_line, c) =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>legal? I want to write a program that =
lets me take=20
a forwarded email, saved as text, then read it in a sequence a getc =
at a=20
time less all those >. After say you get 80 characters add =
a return then=20
dump it to an out file and reuse the sequence for the next line. Here's =
my=20
scribbles, I know it need a LOT of work[8=3D]</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sequence in_line {}<BR>integer fn, =
fn2<BR>constant=20
ERROR =3D 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>fn =3D open("infile.txt,r)<BR>if fn =3D =
-1=20
then<BR> puts(ERROR, "couldn't open=20
infile\n")<BR>else<BR> add_c<BR>end if</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>fn2 =3D open_"outfile.txt,w)<BR>if =
fn2 =3D -1=20
then<BR> puts(ERROR, "couldn't open outfile\n")<BR>end =
if</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>procedure add_c(integer c)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if length (in_line) <79=20
then<BR> c =3D getc(fn)<BR> append =
in_line =3D=20
(in_line, c)<BR> elsif in_line >79 then=20
dump_line<BR>end if</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>end procedure</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>produre dump_line()</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> puts(fn2, =
out_line)<BR> =20
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15. Re: I'm back
> Hi all. After a crazy summer, and loosing the friend that I was
> studding = Euphoria with to cancer I'm back to try to learn this
> language again. I = was trying to catch up on things by reading the
> archives. It's good to = see things progressing. The translator, IDE,
> and library upgrades ect.=20
Welcome back, Alvin. Jeez, sorry about your friend tho :(
Everything has changed alot, especially in the past couple of
months, where it seems alot of things have speedily changed. Quite
kewl, I say :)
> Any way the dumb question today. How do you dump a sequence? Say you
> use = getc to keep appending a sequence then want to write it to file
> and = empty the sequence for reuse.
My dumb answer: at the cleanup part of the procedure, make the
sequence = {} ? :)
> Also is=20 append in_line =3D
> (in_line, c)=20 legal? I want to write a program that lets me take a
> forwarded email, = saved as text, then read it in a sequence a getc at
> a time less all = those >. After say you get 80 characters add a
> return then dump it to an = out file and reuse the sequence for the
> next line. Here's my scribbles, = I know it need a LOT of work[8=3D]
Personally, it looks okay to me, but the only way to find out is to,
well, make an experimental proggie to test your theory out :)
(Grr.... stupid mailer...)
--"LEVIATHAN"
16. I'm back
- Posted by "Wallace B. Riley" <wryly at MINDSPRING.COM>
Jan 23, 1998
-
Last edited Jan 24, 1998
Hello everybody.
I was off the air for a week and just got back in business. My e-mail for
some reason went ker-blooey and was difficult to resuscitate.
Please don't rush to send me any messages for a few days. During my hiatus
my in box accumulated 420 messages, and it will take a while to catch up
with them.
Wally Riley
wryly at mindspring.com
17. I'm back
OK guys. My .com.au name is web-based, and I don't like it. My old address
is now receiving Euphoria email.
By the way, does anyone have a .E that I can do minor C++ programming with?
I have Borland C++ 3.0.
- Nate
18. I'm back
For anyone who's interested, I'm back from a "Six Day, Seven Night"
vacation to California.
--Alan
=
19. Re: I'm back
Alan Tu wrote:
>
> For anyone who's interested, I'm back from a "Six Day, Seven Night"
> vacation to California.
>
Lucky.
Welcome back. It's been quiet here - very quiet.
Irv
>
