1. Microsoft problem with msmpeng.exe

FYI

About a month ago all of my customer's computers at two separate and independent locations started to load and run EU programs extremely slow and they started this the same morning. One location was in Tennesee, the other in New Mexico. At first we thought it was NOD32 since both were running it. Finally we found the problem by watching task manager when a program was loaded and found that msmpeng.exe was scanning all load and runs and taking all the CPU doing it. Uninstalling windows defender fixed the problem. Here's the info clipped below. The auto update in windows XP did this. It's really irritating to have MS do such a debilitating thing to your computers

The msmpeng.exe process is used by the Microsoft Windows Defender to perform spyware scanning procedures. When Windows Live OneCare is installed in your computer, the msmpeng.exe file is also automatically saved in your computer.

To ensure that your system is protected, you can determine the activity of the msmpeng.exe file through Windows Task Manager. On the other hand, when the msmpeng.exe file is performing a scan, you can view the details of the scan through the Windows Defender user interface.

The main functions of the msmpeng.exe file include the ability to remove, quarantine, and prevent spyware infections. Aside from scanning for Spyware, the msmpeng.exe file also searches for worms and Trojans.

The framework of the msmpeng.exe file was based on the GIANT Antispyware, a product of GIANT Company Software, Inc. Aside from scanning, Windows Defender also includes various Real-time Security Agents used to check areas of Windows that can contain unsafe programs. ActiveX applications can also be removed by the msmpeng.exe file.

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More than once I have had customers' operations shut down because of an update to XP.

I don't know which is worse - using XP and wondering when Microsoft is going to break it, or using Vista which comes already broken, directly from the factory.

And, it isn't just insignificant little Euphoria that gets killed. They've also managed to prevent more notable software such as Photoshop and Filemaker Pro from running.

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I may be a lone voice, but Vista has done nothing but bring stability to my system. I'd have a GP fault/BSOD at least once a week with XP. Since upgrading to Vista, I have not had one for more than a year now. Things are much more stable. If XP was the only MS OS that was available, I'd avoid it like the plague. I actually enjoy using Vista (well, almost, the command line in any Unix clone can't be beat).

Jeremy

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irv said...

More than once I have had customers' operations shut down because of an update to XP.

I don't know which is worse - using XP and wondering when Microsoft is going to break it, or using Vista which comes already broken, directly from the factory.

And, it isn't just insignificant little Euphoria that gets killed. They've also managed to prevent more notable software such as Photoshop and Filemaker Pro from running.

http://weblogs.asp.net/oldnewthing/archive/2003/10/15/55296.aspx

OTOH,

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html

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Interesting article (from 2004)! Of course, his 6 examples of things you can't do on the web are being done today. Yay!

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euphoric said...

Interesting article (from 2004)! Of course, his 6 examples of things you can't do on the web are being done today. Yay!

Can you provide examples? I am not aware of a fast drawing program on the web (short of a java applet or the like which doesn't count), or the "warn user if they hit close" on the browser feature. I know that AJAX allows you to do 4. and it seems at least GMale has used AJAX to do 2., but I don't know of any examples where you can use only a keyboard-driven interface on a web page or continue working while offline on a web page.

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jimcbrown said...

Can you provide examples?

No.

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euphoric said...
jimcbrown said...

Can you provide examples?

No.

Okay, one.

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euphoric said...
euphoric said...
jimcbrown said...

Can you provide examples?

No.

Okay, one.

You'll note when closing your browser window that it confirms your intent... At least, it does in Chrome. (I'm referring to the Test Drive App.) You can even go full screen.

I know you stipulated (no Java), but that's not fair. ANYTHING that runs in the browser qualifies. Why not?

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euphoric said...

I know you stipulated (no Java), but that's not fair. ANYTHING that runs in the browser qualifies. Why not?

I originally disqualified Java (but Javascript/chrome/et al are allowed) and ActiveX because they require downloading and running programs locally. So it blurs the distinction between a "true" web app and a program that you download off the web.

Re-reading APIWar I am not certain if this was the intent of Joel or not (to have Java disqualified). If you can show otherwise (and explain why), I'll buy it.

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euphoric said...

I know you stipulated (no Java), but that's not fair. ANYTHING that runs in the browser qualifies. Why not?

Java doesn't really run in the browser. It's a VM on most computers, it's run from the browser, but is not the browser. It's a heavy weight solution. There are plugins for Lua, Basic, JavaScript, Tcl and more, just not as popular as the java plugin. I'd argue that for the most part, the browser is just a delivery agent not really the host. I currently use Java Web Start (not the same as an applet, but very easy to switch to an applet) for one of the main systems at my workplace.

Jeremy

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