1. Question and comment about EuWinGUI
I've been on this board about ten years now and never noticed EuWinGUI, until
yesterday. Now that I have, I have a question and comment.
First off, I would like to see a menuItem or button or something that would
allow one to look at and edit the Most Recently Created .exw Code. This menuItem
or button or something being in the Designer itself. Without having to go into
Windows and clicking around for that Most Recently Created .exw Code. This is my
biggest complaint about Judih's IDE. And why I don't use it much.
Second what does "WinHwnd" stand for(mean)?
And why is it after every "EventOwner = "?
Don Cole
Bonds > Ruth.
Giants STILL in last place
Hmmmmmmmm!
2. Re: Question and comment about EuWinGUI
don cole wrote:
>
> I've been on this board about ten years now and never noticed EuWinGUI, until
> yesterday. Now that I have, I have a question and comment.
>
> First off, I would like to see a menuItem or button or something that would
> allow one to look at and edit the Most Recently Created .exw Code. This
> menuItem
> or button or something being in the Designer itself. Without having to go into
> Windows and clicking around for that Most Recently Created .exw Code. This
> is my biggest complaint about Judih's IDE. And why I don't use it much.
>
> Second what does "WinHwnd" stand for(mean)?
>
> And why is it after every "EventOwner = "?
>
> Don Cole
> Bonds > Ruth.
> Giants STILL in last place
> Hmmmmmmmm!
Well you'd probably have to ask Andrea Cini about the Designer question. The
program isn't shrouded so you could probably change it yourself tho'.
WinHwnd? That is a global atom set with the handle of the main window after it
is created.
There are a lot of teams that have 1 or 2 really good players but don't win any
games because the rest of the team stinks. Plus, Bonds didn't get all those HR's
in 1 season.
Jeremy
3. Re: Question and comment about EuWinGUI
don cole wrote:
> First off, I would like to see a menuItem or button or something that would
> allow one to look at and edit the Most Recently Created .exw Code. This
> menuItem
> or button or something being in the Designer itself. Without having to go into
> Windows and clicking around for that Most Recently Created .exw Code. This
> is my biggest complaint about Judih's IDE. And why I don't use it much.
>
Actually you CAN do this within IDE. On the Main Window there is a Menu,
'Launch'. If you select MenuItem 'Edit Launch' you can specify the path to
Editor.exw and select to open the projects output exw, via a parameter, for
Editor. Save this information and return to 'Launch'. You need to do this only
once per application you want to launch. Then select 'Launch' Menu again and
select Editor.exw. Your generated exw will show in the editor.
Your changes are not saved within IDE for the next time you generate the exw.
One new feature coming in the release after the next one, is the ability to
reorder the setHandler routines and IDE remember the order for subsequent
generations of the exw.
~judith
4. Re: Question and comment about EuWinGUI
Judith Evans wrote:
>
> don cole wrote:
>
> > First off, I would like to see a menuItem or button or something that would
> > allow one to look at and edit the Most Recently Created .exw Code. This
> > menuItem
> > or button or something being in the Designer itself. Without having to go
> > into
> > Windows and clicking around for that Most Recently Created .exw Code. This
> > is my biggest complaint about Judih's IDE. And why I don't use it much.
> >
>
> Actually you CAN do this within IDE. On the Main Window there is a Menu,
> 'Launch'.
> If you select MenuItem 'Edit Launch' you can specify the path to Editor.exw
> and select to open the projects output exw, via a parameter, for Editor. Save
> this information and return to 'Launch'. You need to do this only once per
> application
> you want to launch. Then select 'Launch' Menu again and select Editor.exw.
> Your
> generated exw will show in the editor.
>
> Your changes are not saved within IDE for the next time you generate the exw.
>
> One new feature coming in the release after the next one, is the ability to
> reorder the setHandler routines and IDE remember the order for subsequent
> generations
> of the exw.
>
> ~judith
Hello Judith,
I tried what you said.
I made EDITA my default viewer in the "Edit Launcher".
Then I click on Launch\EDITA.exw.
And I get "Must use Launch with a saved file".
The only way I can find to save anything is with "Project/Save".
Then when I open the Launcher again I get a nice edited view of the project.
But what I would like to see is an edited view of the LAST .exw CODE I JUST
CREATED.
Don Cole
Bonds > Ruth.
Giants STILL in last place
Hmmmmmmmm!
Don Cole
5. Re: Question and comment about EuWinGUI
don cole wrote:
>
>
> Hello Judith,
> I tried what you said.
> I made EDITA my default viewer in the "Edit Launcher".
> Then I click on Launch\EDITA.exw.
> And I get "Must use Launch with a saved file".
> The only way I can find to save anything is with "Project/Save".
> Then when I open the Launcher again I get a nice edited view of the project.
> But what I would like to see is an edited view of the LAST .exw CODE I JUST
> CREATED.
>
> Don Cole
> Bonds > Ruth.
> Giants STILL in last place
> Hmmmmmmmm!
>
> Don Cole
Hi Don,
When you use Project/SaveAs or Save, the generated exw is not created at that
time. A followup with F5 or F6 is needed. Once you have SaveAs the project name,
F5 used later (and used multiple times after changing something in IDE either
with Design or Code Editor) saves the project and also generates the exw.
If you generate the exw via F5, and a project name exists, then that is your
view of the code you just created. If you have not created a project name yet,
then F5 or F6 will create a temporary name for the exw. Unfortunately Launch
doesn't deal with the temporary name. If you didn't use F5 or F6 at all then
there isn't a generated exw.
Lets assume you had saved the project name and then pressed F5, then would
Launch of edita have achieved what you wanted? If so maybe I can change Launch to
work with the temporary exw name (if you pressed F6 or didn't press either F5 or
F6.)
The important fact to consider is that none of the changes you make in the
external editor are known to IDE for the next time you use IDE to modify your
exw.
What kind of changes do you need to do in the exw with an external editor?
Perhaps it is something I can build directly into IDE.
~judith
6. Re: Question and comment about EuWinGUI
Judith Evans wrote:
>
> don cole wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello Judith,
> > I tried what you said.
> > I made EDITA my default viewer in the "Edit Launcher".
> > Then I click on Launch\EDITA.exw.
> > And I get "Must use Launch with a saved file".
> > The only way I can find to save anything is with "Project/Save".
> > Then when I open the Launcher again I get a nice edited view of the project.
> > But what I would like to see is an edited view of the LAST .exw CODE I JUST
> > CREATED.
> >
> > Don Cole
> > Bonds > Ruth.
> > Giants STILL in last place
> > Hmmmmmmmm!
> >
> > Don Cole
>
> Hi Don,
>
> When you use Project/SaveAs or Save, the generated exw is not created at that
> time. A followup with F5 or F6 is needed. Once you have SaveAs the project
> name,
> F5 used later (and used multiple times after changing something in IDE either
> with Design or Code Editor) saves the project and also generates the exw.
>
> If you generate the exw via F5, and a project name exists, then that is your
> view of the code you just created. If you have not created a project name yet,
> then F5 or F6 will create a temporary name for the exw. Unfortunately Launch
> doesn't deal with the temporary name. If you didn't use F5 or F6 at all then
> there isn't a generated exw.
>
> Lets assume you had saved the project name and then pressed F5, then would
> Launch
> of edita have achieved what you wanted? If so maybe I can change Launch to
> work
> with the temporary exw name (if you pressed F6 or didn't press either F5 or
> F6.)
>
> The important fact to consider is that none of the changes you make in the
> external
> editor are known to IDE for the next time you use IDE to modify your exw.
>
> What kind of changes do you need to do in the exw with an external editor?
> Perhaps
> it is something I can build directly into IDE.
>
> ~judith
Hello Judith thanks for tring to help,
I openned a previously made .prj pressed F5. It ran my .exw file fine. But when
I opened EDITA with Launch it only showed me the Project file. No .exw file to be
seen. This seems very complicated. For the the next version I would like to seen
a menu Item that said "Show Me the Last .exw that was Created"
Don Cole
Bonds > Ruth.
Giants STILL in last place
Hmmmmmmmm!
Don Cole
7. Re: Question and comment about EuWinGUI
don cole wrote:
> Hello Judith thanks for tring to help,
>
> I openned a previously made .prj pressed F5. It ran my .exw file fine. But
> when
> I opened EDITA with Launch it only showed me the Project file. No .exw file
> to be seen. This seems very complicated. For the the next version I would
> like
> to seen a menu Item that said "Show Me the Last .exw that was Created"
When you created your entry in 'Edit Launch' you needed to go near the bottom of
the screen and select 'project's exw/ew file' for 'passing arguments' which will
show '&e' in the params box and then the exw would be in Edita instead of the
project file.
I agree the process is a bit lengthy but Launch was designed to be generic where
the user could indicate the specifics and it only needs be done once. Are you
really wanting to edit the exw or just view the code?
~judith
8. Re: Question and comment about EuWinGUI
Judith Evans wrote:
>
> don cole wrote:
> > Hello Judith thanks for tring to help,
> >
> > I openned a previously made .prj pressed F5. It ran my .exw file fine. But
> > when
> > I opened EDITA with Launch it only showed me the Project file. No .exw file
> > to be seen. This seems very complicated. For the the next version I would
> > like
> > to seen a menu Item that said "Show Me the Last .exw that was Created"
>
> When you created your entry in 'Edit Launch' you needed to go near the bottom
> of the screen and select 'project's exw/ew file' for 'passing arguments' which
> will show '&e' in the params box and then the exw would be in Edita instead
> of the project file.
>
> I agree the process is a bit lengthy but Launch was designed to be generic
> where
> the user could indicate the specifics and it only needs be done once. Are you
> really wanting to edit the exw or just view the code?
>
> ~judith
Thank you judith,
I got now. It IS a bit lengthly and not easy to set up.
For now I only would like to read read the .exw, But in the future I may want to
edit it. I really don't use IDE much. I only use it to set up the basic
structure (the window and controls) from that point I find it easier to do
everything by hand. Most of my basic structures are setup already so I really
don't need IDE, unless I'm going to start a compleatly new program. Still, I like
to know how these things work.
Don Cole
Bonds > Ruth.
Giants STILL in last place
Hmmmmmmmm!
Don Cole
9. Re: Question and comment about EuWinGUI
don cole wrote:
>
> Judith Evans wrote:
> >
> > don cole wrote:
> > > Hello Judith thanks for tring to help,
> > >
> > > I openned a previously made .prj pressed F5. It ran my .exw file fine. But
> > > when
> > > I opened EDITA with Launch it only showed me the Project file. No .exw
> > > file
> > > to be seen. This seems very complicated. For the the next version I would
> > > like
> > > to seen a menu Item that said "Show Me the Last .exw that was Created"
> >
> > When you created your entry in 'Edit Launch' you needed to go near the
> > bottom
> > of the screen and select 'project's exw/ew file' for 'passing arguments'
> > which
> > will show '&e' in the params box and then the exw would be in Edita instead
> > of the project file.
> >
> > I agree the process is a bit lengthy but Launch was designed to be generic
> > where
> > the user could indicate the specifics and it only needs be done once. Are
> > you
> > really wanting to edit the exw or just view the code?
> >
> > ~judith
>
> Thank you judith,
>
> I got now. It IS a bit lengthly and not easy to set up.
>
> For now I only would like to read read the .exw, But in the future I may want
> to edit it. I really don't use IDE much. I only use it to set up the basic
> structure (the window and controls) from that point I find it easier to do
> everything
> by hand. Most of my basic structures are setup already so I really don't need
> IDE, unless I'm going to start a compleatly new program. Still, I like to know
> how these things work.
>
> Don Cole
> Bonds > Ruth.
> Giants STILL in last place
> Hmmmmmmmm!
>
>
> Don Cole
Ok I'll add a new feature accessed via IDE's Menu bar, from which a new window
will open for you to select, and IDE remember, the editor of choice and then pass
the lastest data to that editor whether you have saved the project or not. I'd
like you to test drive this before I officially release so I will e-mail you the
link when I am ready. We'd correspond via e-mail so not to tie up EuForum.
If anyone else has any preferences for how this feature would work, now is the
time to speak up.
Thanks, Don, for your input,
~judith
10. Re: Question and comment about EuWinGUI
Judith Evans wrote:
>
> don cole wrote:
> >
> > Judith Evans wrote:
> > >
> > > don cole wrote:
> > > > Hello Judith thanks for tring to help,
> > > >
> > > > I openned a previously made .prj pressed F5. It ran my .exw file fine.
> > > > But
> when</font></i>
> > > > I opened EDITA with Launch it only showed me the Project file. No .exw
> > > > file
> > > > to be seen. This seems very complicated. For the the next version I
> > > > would
> like</font></i>
> > > > to seen a menu Item that said "Show Me the Last .exw that was Created"
> > >
> > > When you created your entry in 'Edit Launch' you needed to go near the
> > > bottom
> > > of the screen and select 'project's exw/ew file' for 'passing arguments'
> > > which
> > > will show '&e' in the params box and then the exw would be in Edita
> > > instead
> > > of the project file.
> > >
> > > I agree the process is a bit lengthy but Launch was designed to be generic
> > > where
> > > the user could indicate the specifics and it only needs be done once. Are
> > > you
> > > really wanting to edit the exw or just view the code?
> > >
> > > ~judith
> >
> > Thank you judith,
> >
> > I got now. It IS a bit lengthly and not easy to set up.
> >
> > For now I only would like to read read the .exw, But in the future I may
> > want
> > to edit it. I really don't use IDE much. I only use it to set up the basic
> > structure (the window and controls) from that point I find it easier to do
> > everything
> > by hand. Most of my basic structures are setup already so I really don't
> > need
> > IDE, unless I'm going to start a compleatly new program. Still, I like to
> > know
> > how these things work.
> >
> > Don Cole
> > Bonds > Ruth.
> > Giants STILL in last place
> > Hmmmmmmmm!
> >
> >
> > Don Cole
>
> Ok I'll add a new feature accessed via IDE's Menu bar, from which a new window
> will open for you to select, and IDE remember, the editor of choice and then
> pass the lastest data to that editor whether you have saved the project or
> not.
> I'd like you to test drive this before I officially release so I will e-mail
> you the link when I am ready.
If you do email me please use the word "Euphoria" in the subject. Otherwise the
email will most likely get deleted.
>We'd correspond via e-mail so not to tie up EuForum.
Oh, I never worry about that.
>
> If anyone else has any preferences for how this feature would work, now is the
> time to speak up.
>
> Thanks, Don, for your input,
> ~judith
Looking foward to your email.
Don Cole
Bonds > Ruth.
Giants STILL in last place
Hmmmmmmmm!
Don Cole
