Re: Is Euphoria ever going to be newbie-friendly?

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Hi

This topic has been covered before, but there is a difference between learning to program, and learning to write programs in euphoria.

Euphoria is newbie friendly, but all the things that have been done for euphoria have assumed a basic level of understanding of programming - and this requires some effort.

So I ask myself, how did I learn, and why did I want to learn. I started with a VIC20 several hundred years ago, typing in the programs appearing in magazines, and debugging them, spending hours and hours looking for that one decimal point that was out, or that one goto that pointed to the wrong line. And I read about computers and programming voraciously.

I have progressed to writing a 30000 line program in euphoria that runs my veterinary practice, and I'm still spending hours debugging and hunting down that off by one sequence references and any number of other tiny niggling things - nothing changes.

So if you are looking to have written the next WoW within a week, then this is probably not the right programming language for you - or any other programming language for that matter.

Euphoria is a great program to learn programming, but just like any other language, requires some effort and time to understand. euiup looks very promising as a really simple and get you going new euphoria install (I've just answered a quick question over there, awaiting the response) However, we do have a great community, so if you asked anything about anything, even if it was in the manual, you would get an answer and a guide as to how to do it. You have read the manual, haven't you?

As a quick beginner experiment, I even wrote a Hunt the wumpus program on the forums - it makes a great start program to tear down and build back up again, and as one of the first computer games ever, is actually quite fun to play. You can find it here http://openeuphoria.org/wiki/view/HuntTheWumpus.wc and the thread is here http://openeuphoria.org/forum/114690.wc#114690

This thread http://openeuphoria.org/forum/128299.wc#128299 also covered this, and there seems to be a consensus that there are no beginners guides. Perhaps this is true, but tear down the sample programs.

There are some books in the archive try
http://www.rapideuphoria.com/how2prog.pdf and http://www.rapideuphoria.com/book.doc

I have added these to the euWiki
http://openeuphoria.org/wiki/view/Begin%20Programming.wc

The wiki also has some tutorial links
http://openeuphoria.org/wiki/view/TutorialsOnTheWeb.wc

So there is plenty of stuff here, and pretty much all of us are happy to hand hold. Just ask.

Cheers

Chris

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