Re: Redy 1.0.a1 released!

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jimcbrown said...
Steady said...

For those who are very comfortable with Windows, Linux controlling the boot is very worrisome.

I don't understand why this would be the case. Of course, I haven't used dual booting in a very long time, so there might be something that I'm missing here.

If you do not understand dual booting then why comment?

jimcbrown said...
Steady said...

My effort was to put WINDOWS IN CHARGE OF DUAL BOOT OR MULTIPLE BOOT instead of Linux..

Let's be technical here. Strictly speaking, neither is in charge, as this point comes before either kernel is loaded. The argument is merely over which bootloader to prefer loading first.

When you install Windows, you make sufficient changes, to get the appearance that you are familiar with as a windows user which incidentally is fairly different (and disconcerting) to a seasoned Windows user.

jimcbrown said...
Steady said...

So I gave him the solution which keeps Windows in control of the Dual boot.

I feel this is really a matter of preference. If this is what you like, there's nothing wrong with it. I don't have an issue with ryanj doing things this way either, if that's what he wants.But I don't see any advantage at in doing it this way. OTOH I only see a very minor disadvantage, if it is even that at all (an extra step is required and so is an extra piece of software, that is restricted to non-commercial uses).

I am not quite sure why you are harping on his. Ryanj distinctly said he does not have Linux, and obviously he is a Windows person. he asked for help. The type of help I can give is about the hardware and boot process which I did. The type of help you can give is to run his software on Linux which you did not.

jimcbrown said...
Steady said...

Your interpretation that Windows does not allow dual boot, is wrong.

I admit that I was not up to date on the latest version of windoze. So I finally looked it up.

http://www.tomsguide.com/answers/id-2212502/install-windows-ubuntu-linux.html

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows

I therefore revise my original statement as follows:

"Better than doing it in reverse - even today, it appears that current M$ OSes STILL will refuse to give you a dual boot option with Linux/GNU when installed out of the box."

It does appear that third-party software, such as the non-M$ owned EasyBCD, will allow you to rectify this situation after the fact. However, that has always been the case.

Sir, you STILL haven't got it. If a machine has Windows, and you want to instal another windows, Windows installer takes over and guides you to choose the partition you want to use and instals there and creates a dual boot file and sets it up as dual boot.
As i said before, you do NOT have the slightest concept of what dual booting is about in the windows and Linux world.
Easy BCD comes into the picture either by choice or by the fact that you installed Linux after Windows or two or three versions of Windows and you want to give control to the Windows Boot file and give extra availability of Linux boot after that file or from withing that file. You can use notepad to load the bot.ini file and look at yourself and modify it. but EasyBCD makes it easier and error proof.
You may or may not want to accept from me but Windows will allow booting from upto 4 different OS-es (partitions, drives etc) and more under certain partitioning, which I do not want to go into right now. Also Google Ntdetect.com and ntldr and learn.

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