1. Im A Damn Poor Kid...
Look Now In the New Version Of Euphoria....
You Cant Compile Projects...AND That SUX.
You Know Why? Because Im A Poor Kid.
I Cant Buy The Retail Version Of Euphoria
And I Like COmpiling Even If I get The 300k Limit On .exe files....I
Don't Care..Just Let Me Compile..
Im Devoted To Euphoria Can Anyone help me?
Please At Least benefit Me With A Free Copy or Something ....
HELP!
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2. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
your a damned spoiled kid
and you may be poor.
I live off a disability pension and I am registered for 1.5
suck your gut in kid
walk like a man
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Rodriguez <captaincheez at YAHOO.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 2:24 PM
Subject: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
>Look Now In the New Version Of Euphoria....
>You Cant Compile Projects...AND That SUX.
>You Know Why? Because Im A Poor Kid.
>I Cant Buy The Retail Version Of Euphoria
>And I Like COmpiling Even If I get The 300k Limit On .exe files....I
>Don't Care..Just Let Me Compile..
>Im Devoted To Euphoria Can Anyone help me?
>
>Please At Least benefit Me With A Free Copy or Something ....
>
>
>HELP!
>_________________________________________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
3. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
I should have said.....
with your attitude I am not sure if you will always be poor
but you will always be damned
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Rodriguez <captaincheez at YAHOO.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 2:24 PM
Subject: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
>Look Now In the New Version Of Euphoria....
>You Cant Compile Projects...AND That SUX.
>You Know Why? Because Im A Poor Kid.
>I Cant Buy The Retail Version Of Euphoria
>And I Like COmpiling Even If I get The 300k Limit On .exe files....I
>Don't Care..Just Let Me Compile..
>Im Devoted To Euphoria Can Anyone help me?
>
>Please At Least benefit Me With A Free Copy or Something ....
>
>
>HELP!
>_________________________________________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
4. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
- Posted by Daniel Berstein <daber at PAIR.COM>
Jan 25, 1999
-
Last edited Jan 26, 1999
>Look Now In the New Version Of Euphoria....
>You Cant Compile Projects...AND That SUX.
Euphoria ain't compiled boy! Bind simple appends your source code to the
end of a copy of ex(w).exe.
>I Cant Buy The Retail Version Of Euphoria
>Don't Care..Just Let Me Compile..
Why do you need to create exe files? For pesonal use you can deal with a
BAT file.
BTW Have you heard of RDS's microeconomy? If you contribute some
cool/useful thing (routine, library, whatever) to the Euphoria comunity
people can vote "virtual" money to you... That money is credited to you by
RDS upon purchase... enough votes and you get your free copy!
Regards,
Daniel Berstein
daber at pair.com
5. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
- Posted by Daniel Berstein <daber at PAIR.COM>
Jan 25, 1999
-
Last edited Jan 26, 1999
Direct URL for microeconomy stuff:
http://members.aol.com/fileseu/economy.htm
Regards,
Daniel Berstein
daber at pair.com
6. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
Okay, everybody on the list send me $2 per month. Every month we'll have
a drawing and purchase a copy of EUPHORIA for some lucky poor boy... I
think it's the least we can do to help get EUPHORIA into the hands of
"damn poor kids."
I'm serious! E-mail me for my address.
See ya!
ck
Brian Rodriguez wrote:
> Look Now In the New Version Of Euphoria....
> You Cant Compile Projects...AND That SUX.
> You Know Why? Because Im A Poor Kid.
> I Cant Buy The Retail Version Of Euphoria
> And I Like COmpiling Even If I get The 300k Limit On .exe files....I
> Don't Care..Just Let Me Compile..
> Im Devoted To Euphoria Can Anyone help me?
>
> Please At Least benefit Me With A Free Copy or Something ....
>
> HELP!
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
7. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
Not to sound harsh or cruel, but RDS is not a charity. It does expect some
sort of payment if you plan to use Euphoria for a period longer than a
reasonable evaluation. The cost RDS is asking for is reasonable, certainly
cheaper then a computer game ($59.99 Cdn and higher)...and you can write
your own games!!!!
David Gay
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/4346
"A Beginner's Guide To Euphoria"
8. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
David Gay wrote:
<snip>
Not to sound harsh or cruel, but RDS is not a charity. It does expect some sort
of payment if you plan to use Euphoria for a period longer than a reasonable
evaluation.
<snip>
I am sorry, David, but I think you are seriously misrepresenting the RDS'
clearly stated policy. I quote from the README.DOC:
"People can use Euphoria for as long as they like without obligation.
We make money from those who start to seriously develop large
applications, and want to get the latest release, technical support
and enhanced bind, profile, and debug support for large programs."
I know next to nothing about the shareware business, but I think
this is a very sensible policy and I applaud Rob's latest move to
gradually lift restrictions on debugging, while shifting emphasis
to binding/compilation.
jiri
9. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:00:26 -0600, C & K L <candkNOSPAM2ME at TICNET.COM>
wrote:
>Okay, everybody on the list send me $2 per month. Every month we'll have
>a drawing and purchase a copy of EUPHORIA for some lucky poor boy... I
>think it's the least we can do to help get EUPHORIA into the hands of
>"damn poor kids."
>
>I'm serious! E-mail me for my address.
>
>See ya!
>ck
Hmmm... my math isn't so good, but there are about 248 people
on the list, and 2 times 248 is .. is.. a lot more than the price
of a copy of Euphoria.
I am beginning to get suspicious.
Irv
10. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:34:06 +1300, Jiri Babor <J.Babor at GNS.CRI.NZ> wrote:
>I am sorry, David, but I think you are seriously misrepresenting the RDS'
>clearly stated policy. I quote from the README.DOC:
>
>"People can use Euphoria for as long as they like without obligation.
>We make money from those who start to seriously develop large
>applications, and want to get the latest release, technical support
>and enhanced bind, profile, and debug support for large programs."
>
>I know next to nothing about the shareware business, but I think
>this is a very sensible policy and I applaud Rob's latest move to
>gradually lift restrictions on debugging, while shifting emphasis
>to binding/compilation.
>
I agree that it is a very liberal policy. Perhaps too liberal.
What I would like to see are some of those "seriously large applications"
mentioned above. Where are they? Anybody writing one?
How can RDS make much money until there are some?
At any rate, compare Euphoria to any other software you may have
lying around: Microsoft's shrink wrapped "agreement", for example,
which generally states (paraphrased):
We don't guarantee that there is anything on this disk,
or that there isn't, nor that it may or may not be suitable
for any purpose now known or yet to be imagined.
If there happens to be something on this disk,
it's not our fault. Either way, you don't own it,
but are only licensed to try to get our bugs out.
You may make one copy which must immediately be burned.
If you give up in frustration, you must return all software,
hardware, sleepware,and underware that may or may not
be part of this package. You may not tell anyone living
or dead how slowly this software runs, under penalty of
law... By touching, looking at or walking past this package,
you hereby agree to abide by all these and any other
conditions our overpaid and underworked lawyers
were able to dream up...
Irv
11. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
- Posted by Warren Baker <wcbaker at HOME.COM>
Jan 25, 1999
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Last edited Jan 26, 1999
The "Damn Poor Kid" said (if I recall) that the problem is that he wishes to
compile Euphoria programs. Someone pointed out that getting a registered
copy can't solve the difficulty, since the registered version will not
support compilation, nor can it. Euphoria is an interpreted language.
As it is, one can get a working copy of Euphoria for free.
I don't see what the problem is.
Cheers!
--Warren
12. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
>
>The "Damn Poor Kid" said (if I recall) that the problem is that he wishes to
>compile Euphoria programs. Someone pointed out that getting a registered
>copy can't solve the difficulty, since the registered version will not
>support compilation, nor can it. Euphoria is an interpreted language.
>
>As it is, one can get a working copy of Euphoria for free.
>
>I don't see what the problem is.
Dear Warren,
I would argue that when a program is bound using BIND to create a .EXE
file anyone who received the prog would assume it was an 'executable';
it doesn't need any other external files to run nor the interpretor (
it's all bundled into the .EXE ).
Would we say a Java Applet is an executable ? All depends on how one
looks at it. I don't want to start a flame war on what is or isn't a
true executable or we'll be arguing over whether 80x86 code is
interpreted by microcode etc etc.
I don't think that The Poor Kid realised that he didn't need to create a
.EXE file and could do it all with .BAT files; I too made the same
mistake when v2.1 was first announced without BIND thrown in - And I,
allegedly, know what I'm doing as a prof. programmer !
13. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
I Live In Miami ok?
I AM A Poor Kid And Use The Schools Computer For My Semi-Programming.
I Want To Be A Software Engineer And hardware Engineer
But I Dont have the Capital!
Truly brian.
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14. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Brian Rodriguez wrote:
] I Want To Be A Software Engineer And hardware Engineer
] But I Dont have the Capital!
[I'll assume you're not trolling BR]
Why not take a more civilised tone? There are people out here who are also
on low incomes who know where you're coming from.
Set out your messages calmly and rationally and 'Avoid Typing Everything
Like This. It ANNOYS People, And Makes You Look Like A Troll/Robot.'
Make suggestions how you'd like things to be, but don't get upset if it
doesn't happen. The last post I sent to this list was along those lines.
Look under the new "Marketing Suggestions" thread.
If you're a genuine minor, you're bound to be angry at this big, cruel
world. The rest of us are just as angry, we just have to get on
with it...
Enough babble,
Carl
"The ideal of diplomacy is better than any ideal of hatred, war or
bureacracy. Unfortunately, all ideals are elusive and fickle..." - CRW
--
Carl R White -- Final Year Computer Science at the University of Bradford
E-mail........: cyrek- at -bigfoot.com -- Remove hyphens. Ta :)
URL...........: http://www.bigfoot.com/~cyrek/
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15. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
Well At Least I Livened Up The Chat.
Ill Take Your Comments Carl.
Id Like For A Free Copy of Euphoria.
Im not Mad If I Don't Get It,
But It Be'd Nice.
Im Sorry For the Flame Trails People!
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16. Re: Im A Damn Poor Kid...
- Posted by C & K L <candk at TICNET.COM>
Jan 28, 1999
-
Last edited Jan 29, 1999
Hey! I've been in Houston for a few says and just received 116 e-mail
messages in my box. Zowie!
C.K. said:
> >Okay, everybody on the list send me $2 per month. Every month we'll have
> >a drawing and purchase a copy of EUPHORIA for some lucky poor boy... I
Irv responded:
> Hmmm... my math isn't so good, but there are about 248 people
> on the list, and 2 times 248 is .. is.. a lot more than the price
> of a copy of Euphoria.
>
> I am beginning to get suspicious.
Okay, then make it a dollar... OR, I'll give away more than one copy. Or
$2 will fund three months of giving away stuff. There's no profit-motive
on my part. I just thought it would be fun/neat to do for people. I've
already purchased my copies of EUPHORIA... :)
See ya,
ck
