1. Offtopic Linux stuff
Daniel writes:
> Thanks Riwal. I'll check your link. About searching 'inetd'... on Linux
> system that's a standard daemon for HTTP servers (AKA Apache).
>
Actually inetd is in charge of starting internet daemons that aren't
needed to be running all the time. Look at /etc/inetd.conf to see which
services inetd provides on your system. The HTTP server is called httpd.
Ralf Writes:
> [Linux]
>
> Ok, I've been able to install Linux, without loosing my normal data.
> (borrowed Partition Magic 4) and it resides on a different
> partition, lilo-bootmanager, etc. Now to the problem, I can't seem to
> get X-Windows up and running. And I kind of dislike the
> bash-shell. I can get around a little, but this is not what I had in
> mind. I've installed XFree86, because it seems to be more a
> standard than the Metro-X Server, however each time I start X, it goes
> blank and a few seconds later I'm looking at the
> linux-login again. Xconfigurator, sets up my Ati-card right (it seems),
> but the real issue, I think is my monitor. Whenever a
> resolution is changed, it goes blank. This is most likely due to bad H/V
> -Syncs, setup. But my range: 50 - 120 is not any of
> the default ranges, and the Xconfigurator says, I can _either_ choose
> any of these industry standards or choose a _custom_
> range. But how do I choose a custom rate ?
I had the same problems getting X to work with my unknown monitor, and
trying many settings with custom made no bit of difference. I finally
just chose a random supported monitor that I hoped has the same
capabilities as mine, and now it seems to work fine. Note: that if the
monitor you pick has the wrong sync rates, you run the risk of damaging
your monitor.
Also, instead of using Xconfigurator try XF86Setup.
> I suspect I need to be editing the configuration file myself, but where
> is it ?
/etc/X11/XF86Config (I think)
> And are there any better text-mode editors in
> (red-hat, Hurricane release) Linux than edlin ?
Try pico
> Thanks for any help, I now some of you have installed Linux
> successfully, so if you could help me, please do.
> Also, does any one know some good beginner references, all I've learned
> from the bash shell is from its help and info commands,
> and just trying out. I've noticed I have multiple consoles available to
> login, this is normal ? (chosen with Alt+F1/F2/F3
> depending on how many consoles are already open)
For reference, go to www.linux.org and read the howtos.
The "multiple consoles" are actually called "virtual consoles", see the
man page for "console".
> Ralf
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2. Re: Offtopic Linux stuff
- Posted by Daniel Berstein <daber at PAIR.COM>
Apr 01, 1999
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Last edited Apr 02, 1999
At 08:05 AM 01-04-1999 , you wrote:
>Daniel writes:
>> Thanks Riwal. I'll check your link. About searching 'inetd'... on Linux
>> system that's a standard daemon for HTTP servers (AKA Apache).
>>
>
>Actually inetd is in charge of starting internet daemons that aren't
>needed to be running all the time. Look at /etc/inetd.conf to see which
>services inetd provides on your system. The HTTP server is called httpd.
Thanks for the explanation.
>
>Also, instead of using Xconfigurator try XF86Setup.
Or xf86config for a text based configuration... I was able to enter
manually my H/V sync rates here.
>> I suspect I need to be editing the configuration file myself, but where
>> is it ?
>
>/etc/X11/XF86Config (I think)
I think it's /etc/XF86Config or /usr/X11R6/X86Config
>> And are there any better text-mode editors in
>> (red-hat, Hurricane release) Linux than edlin ?
>
>Try pico
I personally like 'joe'.
>The "multiple consoles" are actually called "virtual consoles", see the
>man page for "console".
Note that virtual console 7 (ALT-7) is the XWindow screen. From XWindow you
can move to a text console by presing CTL-ALT-<number>
Regards,
Daniel Berstein
[ daber at pair.com ]
3. Re: Offtopic Linux stuff
- Posted by Greg Harris <blackdog at CDC.NET>
Apr 01, 1999
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Last edited Apr 02, 1999
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:49:36 -0400, Daniel Berstein <daber at PAIR.COM> wrote:
>At 08:05 AM 01-04-1999 , you wrote:
>>Daniel writes:
>>> And are there any better text-mode editors in
>>> (red-hat, Hurricane release) Linux than edlin ?
>>
>>Try pico
>
>I personally like 'joe'.
Hum..someone said that 'joe' was in Red-Hat 5.2 .. but I haven't been able
to find it.. any directory where I could look?
After a week.. I finally got my Linux box set-up to dail into the internet.
Other than that it has been a steep learning curve... but I can see the
advantages of it.. can't wait to see Euphoria running on Linux. I think
it will take off more in the Universities with a *nix port..
Regards,
Greg Harris
4. Re: Offtopic Linux stuff
- Posted by Irv Mullins <irv at ELLIJAY.COM>
Apr 01, 1999
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Last edited Apr 02, 1999
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:46:31 -0500, Greg Harris <blackdog at CDC.NET> wrote:
>
>After a week.. I finally got my Linux box set-up to dail into the internet.
>Other than that it has been a steep learning curve... but I can see the
>advantages of it.. can't wait to see Euphoria running on Linux. I think
>it will take off more in the Universities with a *nix port..
>
Must be using RedHat - it has troubles with dialups. Slack connected
the first try.
Anyway, after using Linux exclusively for about 6 months now,
I have discovered that it is much more productive for the type
of work I am doing (web site maintenance). Not just because it
speaks the same language as the majority of the ISP's servers,
but because I can actually do a lot of different things at once.
Right now I'm writing this message with Netscape, ftp'ing some
files, and editing a couple of graphics with the Gimp, and the
cpu usage is hovering around 90% available. Oh - and the file
manager is transparent, so I can see the photo I use for
a desktop background right thru the directory tree.
I, too, can't wait for the Euphoria port.
By the way - only one crash so far. A tree fell across the power
lines back in December. Linux fussed about it when the power finally
came back on, but rebuilt all the files successfully.
Regards,
Irv Mullins
5. Re: Offtopic Linux stuff
- Posted by "C. K. Lester" <cklester at TICNET.COM>
Apr 01, 1999
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Last edited Apr 02, 1999
I'm [very] tempted to get some Linux. And since EUPHORIA will soon have a
Linux flavor, it's probably on-topic, eh? 
If I've got a 13GB HD right now, and portions of it being used by
Winblows98, I assume there's some way to go about getting a bootable Linux
box on a portion/partition, no? Anybody with a good link or step-by-step
proven, bugless and hassle-free method of achieving this?
Thanks, guys!
ck
-----Original Message-----
From: Irv Mullins <irv at ELLIJAY.COM>
To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Offtopic Linux stuff
>On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:46:31 -0500, Greg Harris <blackdog at CDC.NET> wrote:
>
>>
>>After a week.. I finally got my Linux box set-up to dail into the
internet.
>>Other than that it has been a steep learning curve... but I can see the
>>advantages of it.. can't wait to see Euphoria running on Linux. I think
>>it will take off more in the Universities with a *nix port..
>>
>Must be using RedHat - it has troubles with dialups. Slack connected
>the first try.
>
>Anyway, after using Linux exclusively for about 6 months now,
>I have discovered that it is much more productive for the type
>of work I am doing (web site maintenance). Not just because it
>speaks the same language as the majority of the ISP's servers,
>but because I can actually do a lot of different things at once.
>
>Right now I'm writing this message with Netscape, ftp'ing some
>files, and editing a couple of graphics with the Gimp, and the
>cpu usage is hovering around 90% available. Oh - and the file
>manager is transparent, so I can see the photo I use for
>a desktop background right thru the directory tree.
>
>I, too, can't wait for the Euphoria port.
>
>By the way - only one crash so far. A tree fell across the power
>lines back in December. Linux fussed about it when the power finally
>came back on, but rebuilt all the files successfully.
>
>Regards,
>
>Irv Mullins
>
6. Re: Offtopic Linux stuff
At 08:46 PM 01-04-1999 , you wrote:
>>I personally like 'joe'.
>
>Hum..someone said that 'joe' was in Red-Hat 5.2 .. but I haven't been able
>to find it.. any directory where I could look?
It was on Slackware 3.2 and also is in SuSE 6.0. Of course you must first
install the package, I belive it's in the AP section (non-X application),
or perhaps in the A (base).
Regards,
Daniel Berstein
[ daber at pair.com ]
7. Re: Offtopic Linux stuff
- Posted by LEVIATHAN <lordlev at WA.FREEI.NET>
Apr 01, 1999
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Last edited Apr 02, 1999
C. K. Lester wrote:
> I'm [very] tempted to get some Linux. And since EUPHORIA will soon have a
> Linux flavor, it's probably on-topic, eh?
>
> If I've got a 13GB HD right now, and portions of it being used by
> Winblows98, I assume there's some way to go about getting a bootable Linux
> box on a portion/partition, no? Anybody with a good link or step-by-step
> proven, bugless and hassle-free method of achieving this?
>
> Thanks, guys!
> ck
Oh, I really shouldn't be oinf this on tyhe ListServ, but many should know
this book...
Okay, I installed (happily, quite even) Redhat 5 w/ Linux kernel 2.0.32 from
this book with it included CD: SAMS Teach yourself Linux in 24 hours Guide
Starter Kit by Bill Ball. This is _the_ best book to start on! gets people
started on bash shell, and how to successfully install XWindow, etc. REAL
great, man! :)
G'day, and Blessed Be -- "LEVIATHAN"
8. Re: Offtopic Linux stuff
> I'm [very] tempted to get some Linux. And since EUPHORIA will soon have a
> Linux flavor, it's probably on-topic, eh?
>
> If I've got a 13GB HD right now, and portions of it being used by
> Winblows98, I assume there's some way to go about getting a bootable Linux
> box on a portion/partition, no? Anybody with a good link or step-by-step
> proven, bugless and hassle-free method of achieving this?
Try the hassle-non-free method, you don't want to mess-up your HD. No really, it
depends on your current situation..
Say, you have unused partitions, On which you want to install Linux. During the
setup of Ret Hat Linux (5.2) you get to use
'Disk Druid' ... what you want to do, is remove those un-used partitions (if
something is on them, it will be removed.. no
recycle bin or undelete!) and make new linux partitions.. many actually. Make a
partition with disk druid of about 100 Mb,
format it as 'Linux-native' and mount it '\', make one of about 150 and format
it as 'Linux-swap', make one of at least 500
(according to the manual) Mb and mount it to '/usr' (mounting seems to be
assigning directories to devices), and you may want to
make another one and mount it to 'home'.
In other words, to my surprise, Linux uses a different partition for many
things, to speed stuff up.
Ralf
9. Re: Offtopic Linux stuff
On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:23:13 +0200, Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen <nieuwen at XS4ALL.NL>
wrote:
Make a partition with disk druid of about 100 Mb,
>format it as 'Linux-native' and mount it '\', make one of about 150 and
format it as 'Linux-swap', make one of at least 500
>(according to the manual) Mb and mount it to '/usr' (mounting seems to be
assigning directories to devices), and you may want to
>make another one and mount it to 'home'.
>
>In other words, to my surprise, Linux uses a different partition for many
things, to speed stuff up.
>
To expand a little on Ralf's suggestions:
1. Make the Linux native even bigger, since you have plenty of disk
available. 200-300 megs.
2. Everything in Linux, the hard drive, floppy, CDROM, etc.is just a
subdirectory on one big disk, even thought some things are obviously
separate pieces of hardware.
3. Yes - create a /home partition. Every user gets their own space
in the /home directory, i.e.: /home/irv /home/sue ...etc.
Then when I log in, I get MY window manager, MY email, MY netscape,
and so on, but when Sue logs in, she gets HER window manager- completely
different, HER e-mail....etc. Depending on how you set up the permissions,
I may, or may not, be able to browse thru Sue's files and directories.
Or, if I can browse and read the files, I may not be allowed to edit or
delete them. In fact, I may not even be able to see any sign of other
users. You can allocate varying amounts of disk space to each user,
so no one can take more than their allotment (and when they check
free disk space, they see the number for their own allotment)
4. Always set yourself up as a user, and don't log in as "root"
except when installing new software. That is a terrific protection
against those silly, but disasterous, miskates.
Regards,
Irv
