OpenEuphoria

1. OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by jmduro May 20, 2015
• 3179 views

I built 2 archives for beginners on Windows: Just unzip then in c:\WinApps to get rid of Administrator Rights and you can build 32 bit or 64 bit applications on Windows 7 or 8.

They are available here:

http://jean-marc.duro.pagesperso-orange.fr/euphoria32_for_win64_with_win32lib_and_wxeuphoria.zip

http://jean-marc.duro.pagesperso-orange.fr/euphoria64_for_win64_with_wxeuphoria.zip

As their name suggest, win32lib and wxEuphoria are included in euphoria32, and only wxEuphoria for euphoria64.

They are build with latest OpenEuphoria 4.1 with memstruct.

Regards

Jean-Marc

3. Re: OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by irv May 20, 2015
• 3141 views

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5. Re: OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by jmduro May 20, 2015
• 3133 views

Sh... Orange always finds viruses in Euphoria executables. I suppose they removed the files once again.

As it takes about 26 megs per file, I can't send them by mail.

Jean-Marc

7. Re: OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by jmduro May 20, 2015
• 3116 views

I don't understand. Files are still there. I was able to get then immediatly after I uploaded them, but not now anymore.

9. Re: OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by jmduro May 20, 2015
• 3126 views

I tried to use wxFormBuilder, but the result was not as expected. Windows were resized and some parts were even not shown. It does not seem as obvious as it appears at the first glance.

Do you know some components not available? I can use the ones I need up to now.

Jean-Marc

11. Re: OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by irv May 20, 2015
• 3145 views

Same thing applies to Glade. Unless the entire toolchain is managed by one group, that's always going to be the case.

I do want to point out, however, that EuGTK is written in Euphoria, so it's relatively easy to keep up to date, and in fact stays a step ahead of the released versions of GTK.

13. Re: OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by euphoric (admin) May 20, 2015
• 3152 views

Irv, with wxEuphoria, I just have to include some wx*.dll files with my executable, and the end-user is ready to go. It doesn't seem to be that way with GTK. That's the only thing holding me back from exploring the EuGTK option. Can you disabuse me of that notion?

15. Re: OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by irv May 20, 2015
• 3179 views

Depends. The major Linux distributions already come with all the .dll's (actually, .so) files needed as part of the standard os. Small linux versions like Puppy don't, but the needed libraries can often be added easily. The very smallest generally don't do graphics at all, or use primitive graphics libraries like tk, but people who use these generally know what they're getting and don't expect very much.

By major distros, I mean Mint, Ubuntu, Parsix, Mageia, etc. all the biggies. ... distrowatch.com has a search feature to confirm what libraries come with what distro.

Windows, of course, is different. You have to download some libraries and run 4 'scripts' - actually exe's, that search for fonts, icons, etc. and set up the GTK dll's. Other than the download time, it takes just a few seconds, and could be made into an install package, no doubt. Unfortunately, the Windows dll's lag a few versions behind GTK. I still would like to be able to use native Windows dll's, but there seems to be too much difference between the Windows design and the GTK design to make that practical.

Edit: EuGTK comes with a bunch of files, but only 3 or 4 are actually critical to EuGTK, the rest, 225 or more, are demo programs. The actual needed 'runtime' files zip up to only 82k.

17. Re: OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by jmduro May 22, 2015
• 3036 views

I have started writing something but it can't be done as long as libwxeu*.dll does not wrap the wxClassInfo class which provides the function GetClassName().

Matt, Greg, could this function be included in libwxeu? It would help simplifying wxEuphoria usage for beginners as in this example.

public include wxeu.e 
 
public procedure setText(object id, sequence text) 
  integer wxId, param 
  if sequence(id) then 
    wxId = id[1] 
    param = id[2] 
  else 
    wxId = id 
  end if 
  sequence wxClass = get_class_name(wxId) 
  if equal(wxClass, "wxListCtrl") or equal(wxClass, "wxListBox") then 
    set_string( wxId, param, text ) 
  if equal(wxClass, "wxFrame") or equal(wxClass, "wxButton") or equal(wxClass, "wxStaticText") then 
    set_label ( wxId,  text ) 
  elsif equal(wxClass, "wxComboBox") then 
    set_combo_value ( wxId,  text ) 
  elsif equal(wxClass, "wxStatusBar") then 
    if sequence(id) then 
      set_status_text( wxId, text, param) 
    else 
      set_status_text( wxId, text ) 
    end if 
  elsif equal(wxClass, "wxTextCtrl") then 
    set_text( wxId, text ) 
  end if 
end procedure 

Regards

Jean-Marc

19. Re: OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by ghaberek (admin) May 22, 2015
• 3036 views

These types of multi-class functions are implemented within the library itself, where wxClassInfo is used to do such things.

I'm not sure what Matt's response will be, but I'm going to say no. The names used in wxEuphoria come from wxWidgets and we try to follow suit as closely as possible.

Plus I don't even like the idea of lumping all labels and values as "text" like Win32Lib does. Not everything is "text" anyways.

If there's any question as to the purpose of a function, or as to which function does which thing, one should consult the documentation.

-Greg

21. Re: OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by _tom (admin) May 22, 2015
• 3038 views

Distribute OpenEuphoria like a BBQ:

I can not find an argument for leaving WEE out of any o[ distribution.

I can not find an argument for leaving some kind of GUI toolkit out of any o[ distribution. Leaving out a GUI toolkit is like leaving your spare car tire behind because you couldn't decide on a full size tire or a compact emergency tire.

For windows using tinEWG is excellent for casual programmers. Its not a large include and gets the job done. I have started to look at upgrading tinEWG documentation to make it look like it belongs in o[.

For unix euGTK is a small include and is a natural fit.

For medium-large distributions add wxEuphoria and win32lib. Jean-Marc has shown with All-in-One that this just makes sense.

In a large distribution we can start including choices like REDY and euIUP.

What we want: pick from the menu; one download; one click and it installs; load WEE and you are programming.

Lots of room to argue about the details, but we need a target to aim for.

_tom

23. Re: OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by jmduro May 22, 2015
• 3009 views

It would even be better, in my point of view, if it did not use so many globals. I find it difficult to set global variables before you call some functions because there is no visible link with the related function. I can't imagine I must learn all globals before I can start programming, even if they have a default value.

25. Re: OpenEuphoria All-in-One archives fro beginners

• Posted by jmduro May 23, 2015
• 2979 views

I'm starting a work on this basis. The aim is to ease the step of porting Euphoria code from windows to multiplatform to linux and reverse. It is based on the following principle:

           \ OS        Windows        Multiplatform       Linux 
Skill level \      
             \ 
 
Beginner               winSimple  <-->  wxSimple    <-->  linSimple 
                          ^                ^                 ^ 
                          |                |                 | 
                          v                v                 v 
Advanced user          win32lib        wxEuphoria          euGtk 
                        arwen                              euQt 
                        tinEwg 
                        ... 

winSimple would be as simple as:

ifdef WIN32LIB then 
  include winlibSimple.e 
elsifdef ARWEN then 
  include arwenSimple.e 
elsifdef TIN_EWG then 
  include tinEwgSimple.e 
end ifdef 

All *Simple.e libraries share the same philosophy to ease porting: same function names, same or close parameters, same return values.

I will start a new thread when the first library begins to work. It is wxSimple, with a syntax close to win32lib, thanks to Irv's advice on registering classes.

Regards

Jean-Marc