Re: direction
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jiri Babor" <J.Babor at GNS.CRI.NZ>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: direction
> Irv wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Kat wrote:
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jiri Babor" <J.Babor at GNS.CRI.NZ>
> >>
> >> > Irv, Bernie, Joel, Kat & co,
> >> >
> >> > I know, I am not going to win any friends with what I am going to
> >> > say,but I have to say it anyway:
> >> > your arogance through total ignorance is breath taking! jiri (APL
fan)
> >>
> >> What arrogance?!? I have no idea how to write a useful program in
> >> Perl or in APL, what am i arrogant about?? The only thing i did was
> >> poke some fun at a manufactured language that was apparently designed
> >> to be totally incompatable to any natural languages.
> >>
> >> Kat
> >
> >Besides, it isn't arrogance when you're right.
> >
> >Irv
>
> Your type, Irv, is always right. That's exactly what I was referring
> to.
>
> You obviously do not realize, it's all a matter of degree. If, for
> instance, you are presented with five little symbols
>
> x=y+z
>
> you do not demand translation into 'replace whatever is in container x
> with sum of contents of containers y and z'. The bunch looks perfectly
> natural to you, but in the Kat's way it certainly isn't. Sometimes
> people brighter than you just take the level of abstraction a bit
> higher, beyond your reach. But that's not a valid reason to sneer at
> their efforts.
>
> jiri
Right, J and Perl don't look *natural* to me, like i said,,, but still, i
was not *sneering* at them, i was poking good natured fun. I didn't mean any
harm by it. I envy people who can sit down and write good code in a language
where "@#$%$T$%]@$%4\/454" is a valid line. I envy David Cuny's work, if i
had a reason to learn the intricacies of windoze like he has, i'd prolly do
it, but since i'd rather not have windoze on my puter at all, i don't have a
lot of incentive.
Even tho i envy them, it's the results of the code working that i envy, not
the abstractness of the languages they use. I'm sure i could write a
language no one could figure out, that's easy, but i prefer to stay with
programming languages that approach the natural spoken such as english or
spanish or portugese, or even italian. The way i see it, the puter is here
to make my life easier, it's not here to cause me to spend a year learning
languages i don't need, especially if i can get the same power in a language
i prefer. But i wasn't sneering, slamming, dissing, insulting, etc the
language, and i'm sorry i assumed you could take a joke.
Kat
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