1. http from dos32

Sorry to be so late in getting back to everyone.  The dog ate my computer.
Actually, it died on me over the weekend (the computer, not the dog) and I had
to send down to the Big Smoke to get another motherboard.  Thanks to those who
answered my question, especially Daniel Berstein, who has offered to help.  I
have done some checking around and checked my copy of DR-DOS and its browser,
WEB-SPYDER.  The browser certainly doesn't use any WIN DLLs to do log on and
transfer via HTTP.  Any ideas about how this is done?  I will try and figure
this out myself over the rest of the week, and will post my findings within the
next few days.

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2. Re: http from dos32

There's another Dos32 browser, for MS-DOS, it's called Arachne...
Check it out:
http://www.naf.cz/arachne/

I actually used it as my main browser, for a while.  Then my computer
troubles started, which included a dead CPU fan (which resulted in a
fried CPU), a hard drive failure, and my monitor ceasing to work =)

I found arachne to be incredibly fast, faster than Netscape or IE 4.x,
and with as many features (supports javascript, html 4.0, etc. etc.)

But most amazingly...With Arachne, you can 'Web-enable' almost any
electronic device, whether it's a television, cellular phone,
information kiosk with touch-screen interface, etc.

I didn't get an opportunity to check out the above little features, so I
can't absolutely say they work, but it seems that some of the small but
dedicated user-base have gotten it to work, how, I don't know.

Anyways, check it out, hopefully, the creator of the program won't have
too much of a problem with sharing how he can access http from dos32

thanks,
Greg

--
Greg Phillips
i.shoot at rednecks.com
http://euphoria.server101.com
--

Useless fact of the day:

If the population of China walked past you in single file the line would
never end because
of the rate of reproduction

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3. Re: http from dos32

At 03:21 a.m. 26-12-98 , you wrote:
>Sorry to be so late in getting back to everyone.  The dog ate my computer.
 Actually, it died on me over the weekend (the computer, not the dog) and I
had to send down to the Big Smoke to get another motherboard.  Thanks to
those who answered my question, especially Daniel Berstein, who has offered
to help.  I have done some checking around and checked my copy of DR-DOS
and its browser, WEB-SPYDER.  The browser certainly doesn't use any WIN
DLLs to do log on and transfer via HTTP.  Any ideas about how this is done?
 I will try and figure this out myself over the rest of the week, and will
post my findings within the next few days.
>

I'm still sure it *can* be done!

Look what Hawke wrote:

" EUServer makes use of windows DLL's to provide networking over
TCP-IP. EX.EXE cannot load DLL's, SO!, this makes DOS support
for TCP-IP much more difficult, as well as making things like
NEIL.e very diffucult to mesh with EUServer.

Creating a DOS TCP stack, will and won't help you.
EUServer could be hacked to not create it's "window" for
running it in *pure* dos, but that won't help you.  You still
have to run exw.exe to call/load the DLL's, and (i'm not sure)
i do not think that can be done without win9x actually running."

He needs wininet.dll for networking. The UI is superfluos for a
server. That is the only reason EuServer requires Win32. I know there
are PPP dialers and TCP/IP stacks for DOS. The limitation would be
the lack of multitasking, that implies that the server should run exclusivly
on one machine (Euphoria crashes on DR-DOS with multask on).

In theory the PPP dialer (for a modem networking) and TCP/IP stack
could be coded in Euphoria, but why bother if there are existing ones
for DOS?


Regards,
        Daniel   Berstein
        daber at pair.com

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