1. bigot & truecolor library
Sorry, C&KL, I am not even going to reply to your sick little
outburst, so typical of your kind, but let me see how many more people
I can antagonize in a single day...
Hey, Hawke, sorry, but its your turn now, you are a bit more of a
challenge...
For me, being truly colorblind, it is really imperative to have
sixteen million colors at my fingertips! When I tried the first
release of your (?) truecolor library, nothing worked. I had a look
under the bonnet and what I saw did not really inspire my confidence,
so I put it aside.
A little bit later, in a blaze of publicity, you announced a new
version, better and smarter. Being a bit of a sucker as well as
colorblind, I tried again. And again nothing seemed to work. Oh
well...
But now, a patch later, we can at least run Irv's example - your
self-congratulatory style and obvious propensity to overestimate your
own successes don't seem to interfere too much with your ability to
learn. (That's a compliment!)
Seriously, the idea of having a separate, external program to
initialize a video mode is not a winner (can I put it any more
diplomatically?), I think a lot of people will have trouble with it.
After all, one should be able to change to various other modes or
resolutions from within a single program.
OTHERWISE IT'S STARTING TO LOOK QUITE GOOD! THANKS.
jiri
2. Re: bigot & truecolor library
jiri babor wrote:
> Hey, Hawke, sorry, but its your turn now, you are a bit more of a
> challenge...
>
> For me, being truly colorblind, it is really imperative to have
> sixteen million colors at my fingertips! When I tried the first
> release of your (?) truecolor library, nothing worked. I had a look
> under the bonnet and what I saw did not really inspire my confidence,
> so I put it aside.
> A little bit later, in a blaze of publicity, you announced a new
> version, better and smarter. Being a bit of a sucker as well as
> colorblind, I tried again. And again nothing seemed to work. Oh
> well...
ummm why "nothing" was working is beyond me...
the first release was over 90% fully functional at top speed.
and as of now 11.6.98, i cannot force the library to
have a bug practically... at that is true for all three
libraries actually...
is your card vesa1.2? if no then the library bombs.
if yes, than we'll talk :) k?
> But now, a patch later, we can at least run Irv's example - your
> self-congratulatory style and obvious propensity to overestimate your
> own successes don't seem to interfere too much with your ability to
> learn. (That's a compliment!)
> Seriously, the idea of having a separate, external program to
> initialize a video mode is not a winner (can I put it any more
> diplomatically?), I think a lot of people will have trouble with it.
yeah, i been thinking about that....
it has pros and cons...
it provides a template for people to provide a setup
program for end users... and makes running/coding
the library easier...
you can also make several ini files, and use
euphoria/batch files to run any 'game' or program
at any mode just by choosing which batch
file to run...
----run640.bat
copy 640480.ini trumode.ini
ex megagame
-----------
simple, no?
> After all, one should be able to change to various other modes or
> resolutions from within a single program.
you ***CAN*** call set_true_mode any time you like
and switch video modes on the fly, with all your
constants being updated automagically and you can
use the predefined constants:
TRUE_320X200
TRUE_640X480
TRUE_800X600
TRUE_1024X768
TRUE_1280X1024
as the parameter to the function.
simple? no?
> OTHERWISE IT'S STARTING TO LOOK QUITE GOOD! THANKS.
thanks...
but, please, re-read the docs... i know they are lengthy,
but there is enuff changes in there (for the good and bad,
im sure) to warrant taking another scan over them,
and a hard look at things you may have questions
about, and jot those, and we'll talk...k?
and jiri, just about everything all of us want
in a good graphics library, i'm trying to put in
there...
how many trucolor libraries support fonts and mice???
and for the record, neil *can* do some things
about 10% faster (on the high end), but it
cannot do alot either... shrug...
so support is welcome... i'm not suggesting
that we only have one library, but that may not
be a bad idea either, pooling neil and trueEU
and your scaling and polygon texturing
and then *that* would be a truly monstrous library...
quick too :)
and thanks for the compliments and constructive
criticism... it *does* help and *is* appreciated,
especially from you... yer hard to please *poke* --Hawke'
3. Re: bigot & truecolor library
At the risk of drawing fire:
It is usually pretty hard to get people to
contribute time, code, etc. to something like
Euphoria. Therefore I prefer to let the market
decide what is most useful and what is not. I
suggest that you (and I) support those bits of
code we find useful and valuable and we ignore
those that we do not.
I have been a coder for more than 30 years, but I am
a newbie to Euphoria, so I have been lurking here
gaining from most of the postings and simply
discarding those that do not impress me. I do not
want to run off the guy who may help me with my
web page reader just because I have no use for
his brass widget twister.
Truly no offense intended.
-Flash->
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> From: jiri babor[SMTP:jbabor at PARADISE.NET.NZ]
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 8:38 PM
> To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
> Subject: bigot & truecolor library
>
> Sorry, C&KL, I am not even going to reply to your sick little
> outburst, so typical of your kind, but let me see how many more people
> I can antagonize in a single day...
>
> Hey, Hawke, sorry, but its your turn now, you are a bit more of a
> challenge...
>
> For me, being truly colorblind, it is really imperative to have
> sixteen million colors at my fingertips! When I tried the first
> release of your (?) truecolor library, nothing worked. I had a look
> under the bonnet and what I saw did not really inspire my confidence,
> so I put it aside.
>
> A little bit later, in a blaze of publicity, you announced a new
> version, better and smarter. Being a bit of a sucker as well as
> colorblind, I tried again. And again nothing seemed to work. Oh
> well...
>
> But now, a patch later, we can at least run Irv's example - your
> self-congratulatory style and obvious propensity to overestimate your
> own successes don't seem to interfere too much with your ability to
> learn. (That's a compliment!)
>
> Seriously, the idea of having a separate, external program to
> initialize a video mode is not a winner (can I put it any more
> diplomatically?), I think a lot of people will have trouble with it.
> After all, one should be able to change to various other modes or
> resolutions from within a single program.
>
> OTHERWISE IT'S STARTING TO LOOK QUITE GOOD! THANKS.
>
> jiri
>
