1. Linux system config q's and complaints!
- Posted by MikeHu1271 at AOL.COM
Feb 03, 2000
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Last edited Feb 04, 2000
Could somebody send me a compiled and ready to use gcc compiler + any stuff
it needs ALONG WITH decent documentation? Could someone also send me a
compiled and ready to install desktop (ie KDE, GNOME), and that too WITH
decent documentation? I'd prefer Windows Maker, because from what I've seen
on the net, it appears to be the best smaller one. I've already d/l'd its
files, but don't have a clue as to how to install/compile them. I've tried
to read its documentation, but I don't get it. If you'd like to help me, the
Windows Maker website is http://windowsmaker.org/. Why do all Linux progs I
see need to be compiled, is it that open source thing w/Linux? If thats so,
just distribute your prog in a source & compiled form, jeez!
I'm running LoopLinux, which previously was known as DOSLinux. If anyone
cares, it was last updated 2/3/00. I don't remember its website, you could
probably figure out via YAHOO!.
If somebody does decide to help, I'd suggest posting the compiled stuff on a
webserver, mailboxes usually only hold 3 megs.
You're probably thinking to yourself, stay with DOS, quit complaining! I see
Linux as a real possibility to overthrow Windows and DOS. I want to learn
this system and possibly help make it better.
One last thing, under LoopLinux/DOSLinux, is it possible to get a new kernel
w/o screwing up the current configuration, or does LoopLinux have its own
kernel version?
If anyone knows a good HOWTO site, please tell me!!
Thanks,
Mike Hurley
2. Re: Linux system config q's and complaints!
- Posted by Allen Soard <esp-software at MAIL.HYPERMART.NET>
Feb 03, 2000
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Last edited Feb 04, 2000
you should be able to get a gcc/g++ binary from
the GNU home page http://www.gnu.org. Once you
have that the rest should be able to build
itself. If not 95% of the win-managers are
available in binary from http://www.slackware.org
hope this helps,
E.Allen Soard
E.S.P. Software
---- Begin Original Message ----
From: MikeHu1271 at AOL.COM
Sent: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:00:13 EST
To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
Subject: Linux system config q's and complaints!
Could somebody send me a compiled and ready to
use gcc compiler + any stuff
it needs ALONG WITH decent documentation? Could
someone also send me a
compiled and ready to install desktop (ie KDE,
GNOME), and that too WITH
decent documentation? I'd prefer Windows Maker,
because from what I've seen
on the net, it appears to be the best smaller
one. I've already d/l'd its
files, but don't have a clue as to how to
install/compile them. I've tried
to read its documentation, but I don't get it.
If you'd like to help me, the
Windows Maker website is
http://windowsmaker.org/. Why do all Linux progs
I
see need to be compiled, is it that open source
thing w/Linux? If thats so,
just distribute your prog in a source & compiled
form, jeez!
I'm running LoopLinux, which previously was known
as DOSLinux. If anyone
cares, it was last updated 2/3/00. I don't
remember its website, you could
probably figure out via YAHOO!.
If somebody does decide to help, I'd suggest
posting the compiled stuff on a
webserver, mailboxes usually only hold 3 megs.
You're probably thinking to yourself, stay with
DOS, quit complaining! I see
Linux as a real possibility to overthrow Windows
and DOS. I want to learn
this system and possibly help make it better.
One last thing, under LoopLinux/DOSLinux, is it
possible to get a new kernel
w/o screwing up the current configuration, or
does LoopLinux have its own
kernel version?
If anyone knows a good HOWTO site, please tell
me!!
Thanks,
Mike Hurley
---- End Original Message ----
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3. Re: Linux system config q's and complaints!
Would you like us to come round and install it for you, too? :)
I suggest you try mandrake (if you are prepared to repartition). It is
available at http://www.mandrake.org
Detailed, easy to follow install documentation is available onsite, and
mandrake is basically Red Hat + KDE, the best window manager IMHO - no
config files, all graphical etc. The install procedure is easy to follow,
esp if you have copied it onto a CD - just boot off it. As with red hat, it
comes with a programme to resize existing partitions without losing data,
but even better is PartitionMagic.
If you really want to try linux, you have to install it on it's own
partition.
Also, a good guide through the whole thing is Sams Teach yourself Linux in
24 Hours.
If all of this daunts you, try Caldera Openlinux (comes with the Above
mentioned book and many others) - it has a completely graphical - anyone can
do it - just follow the prompts install.
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: <MikeHu1271 at AOL.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 4:00 PM
Subject: Linux system config q's and complaints!
> Could somebody send me a compiled and ready to use gcc compiler + any
stuff
> it needs ALONG WITH decent documentation? Could someone also send me a
> compiled and ready to install desktop (ie KDE, GNOME), and that too WITH
> decent documentation? I'd prefer Windows Maker, because from what I've
seen
> on the net, it appears to be the best smaller one. I've already d/l'd its
> files, but don't have a clue as to how to install/compile them. I've
tried
> to read its documentation, but I don't get it. If you'd like to help me,
the
> Windows Maker website is http://windowsmaker.org/. Why do all Linux progs
I
> see need to be compiled, is it that open source thing w/Linux? If thats
so,
> just distribute your prog in a source & compiled form, jeez!
>
> I'm running LoopLinux, which previously was known as DOSLinux. If anyone
> cares, it was last updated 2/3/00. I don't remember its website, you
could
> probably figure out via YAHOO!.
>
> If somebody does decide to help, I'd suggest posting the compiled stuff on
a
> webserver, mailboxes usually only hold 3 megs.
>
> You're probably thinking to yourself, stay with DOS, quit complaining! I
see
> Linux as a real possibility to overthrow Windows and DOS. I want to learn
> this system and possibly help make it better.
>
> One last thing, under LoopLinux/DOSLinux, is it possible to get a new
kernel
> w/o screwing up the current configuration, or does LoopLinux have its own
> kernel version?
>
> If anyone knows a good HOWTO site, please tell me!!
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Hurley
>
>
4. Re: Linux system config q's and complaints!
----- Original Message -----
From: <MikeHu1271 at AOL.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 9:00 PM
Subject: Linux system config q's and complaints!
> One last thing, under LoopLinux/DOSLinux, is it possible to get a new
kernel
> w/o screwing up the current configuration, or does LoopLinux have its own
> kernel version?
>
> If anyone knows a good HOWTO site, please tell me!!
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Hurley
Mike try www.linux.com
>
5. Re: Linux system config q's and complaints!
On Thu, 03 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> Could somebody send me a compiled and ready to use gcc compiler + any stuff
> it needs ALONG WITH decent documentation? Could someone also send me a
> compiled and ready to install desktop (ie KDE, GNOME), and that too WITH
> decent documentation? I'd prefer Windows Maker, because from what I've seen
> on the net, it appears to be the best smaller one. I've already d/l'd its
> files, but don't have a clue as to how to install/compile them. I've tried
> to read its documentation, but I don't get it. If you'd like to help me, the
> Windows Maker website is http://windowsmaker.org/. Why do all Linux progs I
> see need to be compiled, is it that open source thing w/Linux? If thats so,
> just distribute your prog in a source & compiled form, jeez!
Gcc comes ready to use on almost every Linux CD, even
the $1.99 ones from cheapbytes.com. Erm.. how would we compile a complier
before we had a compiler, anyway?
Would my program, compiled on a pentium II, run on an Alpha, or a Mac?
Don't think so. If I distribute the source, it can be compiled on whatever
platform a person is using. Even so, many programs _are_ available in
pre-compiled versions for each specific processor family. You won't find these
on Linuxberg.com, they're not going to post 5 or 6 copies of each program. Your
best bet is to find the homepage for the particular software, and look for
links there.
90% of the programs I have downloaded compile and run just fine, with three
commands:
./configure
make
make install
The other 10% won't compile, and I don't have the patience to find out why,
so I move on.
You are right about WindowMaker, it's a nice, lightweight window manager,
however, KDE comes ready to use on most distributions, and it is more like
Windows, which makes life easier.
> You're probably thinking to yourself, stay with DOS, quit complaining! I see
> Linux as a real possibility to overthrow Windows and DOS. I want to learn
> this system and possibly help make it better.
You should learn it. Whether it replaces Windows or not, it will be used more
and more in business. Those businesses will need people who know Linux, so
it's a good move. And, as we know, Bill is trying hard to bury DOS, even though
it isn't dead.
..
> If anyone knows a good HOWTO site, please tell me!!
http://www.linux.org
http://www.linuxdoc.org
There are Liinux user's groups everywhere (see the list on linux.org),
e.g. http://www.ale.org
Many have maillists like this Euphoria list, which are the best places to get
answers to your questions. Often hese groups have meetings and install
fests, where you can get an expert to install Linux for you.
Also, check out the Linux Journal http://www.linuxjournal.com for hints and
news.
You'll need a book or two to really learn much - so I suggest you look thru
your local MicroCenter or whatever for one that you find understandable.
SuSE (about $32) comes with an excellent book on settiing up Linux, but
it doesn't cover anything at all about programming.
--
Irv
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