1. VisualBasic 5.0 vs Euphoria
I am learning both VBASIC and Euphoria at the same time. After
reading the argument between Perl vs. Euphoria I came to the obvious
question,"What's faster, VBASIC or Euphoria?".
How are two languages compared for speed if code can be written
in so many different ways.
Do you compare them when solving a math problem, sorting
sequences,etc...?
Rafael
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2. Re: VisualBasic 5.0 vs Euphoria
I do develop in both as well. I find that Euphoria is much faster and smaller.
It is really not fare to compare these two languages. VisualBasic is a
complete development envirronment while Euphoria, although accompanied by
development tools and add-ins, is a language. They both have their positive
features that attract me.
I have done some file i/o comparisons and found that Euphoria was faster.
However, I do not do ANY gui programming in Euphoria. If I need gui, I use
a GUI tool like Visual Basic, Powersoft, etc. As I have indicated in other
emails,. I have to consider the entire life cycle of a project. What will
it cost me to modify, etc. Will the code be re-usable. (However, I do find
my evaluation of Euphoria code on this criteria is positive. ) I do not do
any game programming, so the reasons for my choices are not related to the
opinions of most other users of Euphoria.
Also, Visual Basic is not very optimized. Do not use it for speed. I have
mentioned in the past that a program must produce "results with maximum
utility". In the real world that does not always translate to maximum
efficiency. In fact, it might not always mean maximum benefit. This
concept, which I barely remember, comes from economics. When does an
additional investment not yeild an equal or greater return. Unfortunately,
that's often translated, how bad can I do. I choose to look at it as, how
can I provide the maximum satisfaction to the user while not decreasing the
satisfaction of my superiors. (Yes, those two can often contradict!)
That means I spend 30 minutes creating a gui interface that runs slower
that Euphoria as opposed to hours of programming in Euphoria, hammering out
syntax, etc. To the user, the gui interface is much more pleasing than a
few less seconds to process a file. In fact, I often add visual components
that are of no real value, and no real development time, just to be
pleasing. (progress bars, changing mouse pointers, etc.) (Don't scoff you
young, whipper-snappers. It pays the bills ! ! )
So, if I was sitting at home jamming out efficient routines, I would
probably not use VB5 or any other windows gui environment. I would use (
non-registered ) Euphoria.
By the way, what was it you were asking? I think I went just a little long.
(This email was written in PERL) ( WIthout short-circuit logic)
Joe Phillips, Assistant Director
Information Technology Services
Texas Wesleyan University 817-531-4284
3. Re: VisualBasic 5.0 vs Euphoria
Actually in some cases VB5 *is* faster.
This is logical. All datatypes are known. No dynamic-anthing is required at
run-time.
It can and is compiled very efficiently.
Take PowerBasic. It beats the crap out of *any* c-compiler.
It simply produces the fastest code.
However, VB is OO-s way too much and is a real memory-hog. Actually the
multi-purpose controls are memory-hogs too. It can often do many things and
need to check many things in run-time that you don't at all.
Ralf
4. Re: VisualBasic 5.0 vs Euphoria
>Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:11:20 -0500
>From: Joe Phillips <bubba at TXWES.EDU>
>Subject: Re: VisualBasic 5.0 vs Euphoria
>
>By the way, what was it you were asking? I think I went just a little long.
>(This email was written in PERL) ( WIthout short-circuit logic)
Er... explain 
5. Re: VisualBasic 5.0 vs Euphoria
At 05:33 PM 6/25/98 +0700, you wrote:
>>Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:11:20 -0500
>>From: Joe Phillips <bubba at TXWES.EDU>
>>Subject: Re: VisualBasic 5.0 vs Euphoria
>>
>>By the way, what was it you were asking? I think I went just a little long.
>>(This email was written in PERL) ( WIthout short-circuit logic)
>
> Er... explain
>
It was a joke. You need to take a vacation. You've been talking with (to)
Ralf too much. I think Ralf enjoys your little chats!
Joe Phillips, Assistant Director
Information Technology Services
Texas Wesleyan University 817-531-4284
6. Re: VisualBasic 5.0 vs Euphoria
Joe Phillips wrote:
>
> >>By the way, what was it you were asking? I think I went just a little long.
> >>(This email was written in PERL) ( WIthout short-circuit logic)
> >
> > Er... explain
> >
> It was a joke. You need to take a vacation. You've been talking with (to)
> Ralf too much. I think Ralf enjoys your little chats!
>
Joe,
Would it be more accurate to say that, when doing general programming in
the Dos/Win95 world, PERL, when compared to Euphoria, is a joke?
--
Terry Constant
mailto:constant at flash.net
http://flash.net/~constant
