1. Robert, Take Notes!
Allright allright...
Woah this Euphoria to C translator is pretty cool!
Let me pay good money for it!
Waw! What a good idea from Robert Craig to write a
Euphoria to C translator! He's a genius! Look at him!
He's so smarty-ass! Oh zupah l33t hax0r! Let me bow
down infront of your shining armor, kiss your noble
feet, and lick the lint beneath you toe-nails!
Heh?
Wha?
No kidding???
It was "MIKE THE SPIKE"'s idea??
What?
He set things up so he would get RDS to write a
translator?
Realy???
Well hell yeah it was me who's to thank for all of
this.
And why didn't I get a free copy? Huh? Why do you act
like an ass and not send me one?? I don't see
"Disclaimer: All messages posted on this list become
the intelectual property of RDS" written beneath this
page, do you want me to sue you?
Well hell, thanks a lot folks, you think my job is
done now huh? The translator is out by now, why even
bother listening to MTS anymore? Did you know it is
IMPOSSIBLE
to order Euphoria from Belgium? Why? Because you have
to be a millionair in Belgium before the bank gives
you a creditcard! This ain't the US! The King Of
Belgium don't even have a creditcard! And postal
order? Haha! That's funny, wait 3 weeks for RDS to
tell you "Go download it there"?
Well Rob, eventhough I hate your white ass right now,
you cheapskate, take notes of these easy-to-follow
tips on how to improve the translator;
1. (easy) I said this in a previous post, don't
declare 'int _0, _1, _2, _3' in a function if this
function does not use these vars. You will save memory
and increase callspeed doing this.
2. (easy) Add support for the 'import' header
directive. doing so, you can support 'import foo.c'
aswell. Any Euphoria source file that imports a C file
is able to call all functions available in that C file
in Euphoria. Plus, 'import foo.dll' should be allowed
aswell, simply pass the symbol for an external
function call found in the euphoria source file to
GetProcAddress() in exw/ecw*.lib to call it. This
would take about 10 minutes to implement in both exw
and ecw*.lib. If you want, I'll even write you the
source.
3. (easy) Get rid of 'machine()' in translated
Euphoria source! It slows things down dramatically!
4. (easy) Gotos? They whent out in the 60's! They're
bad coding style aswell, not to mention unreadable!
Believe me, using C flow control statements makes
things faster! The compiler often optimizes these to
jump tables and whatnot.
5. (medium) Add support for the 'as' header directive.
Doing so, you can support 'as c_lib', 'as c_source'
and 'as dll'. 'as c_lib' compiles the file where this
directive is found as a .lib or .a file, wich exports
Euphoria functions wich C/C++/Euphoria programs can
call. 'as dll' compiles the source into a DLL or
shared library, exporing all global routines and
variables.
6. (hard) And while you're at it, why not add a
portable ANSI dll library such as Stonewheel to the
interpretter wich allows you to call routines in
lib/.obj/etc. files as if they were DLLs? This way,
people can write routines in C/C++ and call them using
the interpretter. Or even allow people to re-write
parts of the interpretter using this method.
You know what? I'm out of a job right now, eversince
L&H stocks dropped to the basement (watch the news you
ass!). So, why not hire me so I can put in all this
stuff myself? Want my resume? Well, OK, but only if
you don't have a heart dissease, cos it looks better
than Bill Gates'!
Hell, forget the job, drag me into the team, I'll code
on Eu for free. Wha? You're afraid to give out source
to a psycho like me? (hehe...) NP man, you just send
me the interpreter core allready compiled, and I'll
work on the library functions and the parser, etc.
I'll show you how to field-kick Euphoria into the
mainstream! 2 weeks in my hands and Microsoft won't
even sell the Learners edition of VB anymore!
A graphical GUI tracer for all platforms, more
powerfull than Win32lib and portable, an IDE that
looks like VB on steroids, a database.e and a
network.e library wich make SQL look like last year's
shareware misser.
Yeah, I know I'm good....and so do you.... :p
Mike The Spike
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2. Re: Robert, Take Notes!
- Posted by ck lester <cklester at YAHOO.COM>
Dec 30, 2000
-
Last edited Dec 31, 2000
> Well Rob, eventhough I hate your white ass right now,
Please don't hate.
> 1. (easy) I said this in a previous post, don't
> 2. (easy) Add support for the 'import' header
> 3. (easy) Get rid of 'machine()' in translated
> 4. (easy) Gotos? They whent out in the 60's! They're
> 5. (medium) Add support for the 'as' header directive.
> 6. (hard) And while you're at it, why not add a
> You know what? I'm out of a job right now, eversince
> L&H stocks dropped to the basement (watch the news you
> ass!).
What?! Your Xtreme skills couldn't save them? 
> I'll code on Eu for free.
Rob, that's hard to resist. He apparently has the skills, why not throw him
a crumb?
> I'll show you how to field-kick Euphoria into the
> mainstream! 2 weeks in my hands and Microsoft won't
> even sell the Learners edition of VB anymore!
> A graphical GUI tracer for all platforms, more
> powerfull than Win32lib and portable, an IDE that
> looks like VB on steroids, a database.e and a
> network.e library wich make SQL look like last year's
> shareware misser.
It sounds good to me! Let's have it!
> Mike The Spike
So, no coming back under pseudonyms, right?
Let the skills speak, not the proud tongue.
-ck
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3. Re: Robert, Take Notes!
--- ck lester <cklester at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > Well Rob, eventhough I hate your white ass right
> now,
>
> Please don't hate.
>
> > 1. (easy) I said this in a previous post, don't
> > 2. (easy) Add support for the 'import' header
> > 3. (easy) Get rid of 'machine()' in translated
> > 4. (easy) Gotos? They whent out in the 60's!
> They're
> > 5. (medium) Add support for the 'as' header
> directive.
> > 6. (hard) And while you're at it, why not add a
>
> > You know what? I'm out of a job right now,
> eversince
> > L&H stocks dropped to the basement (watch the news
> you
> > ass!).
>
> What?! Your Xtreme skills couldn't save them?
>
> > I'll code on Eu for free.
>
> Rob, that's hard to resist. He apparently has the
> skills, why not throw him
> a crumb?
>
> > I'll show you how to field-kick Euphoria into the
> > mainstream! 2 weeks in my hands and Microsoft
> won't
> > even sell the Learners edition of VB anymore!
> > A graphical GUI tracer for all platforms, more
> > powerfull than Win32lib and portable, an IDE that
> > looks like VB on steroids, a database.e and a
> > network.e library wich make SQL look like last
> year's
> > shareware misser.
>
> It sounds good to me! Let's have it!
>
> > Mike The Spike
>
> So, no coming back under pseudonyms, right?
>
> Let the skills speak, not the proud tongue.
>
> -ck
>
>
>
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4. Re: Robert, Take Notes!
--- ck lester <cklester at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > Well Rob, eventhough I hate your white ass right
> now,
>
> Please don't hate.
Heh?
Allright then, I hate to be an ass! (<- did I just
sin?)
> > 1. (easy) I said this in a previous post, don't
> > 2. (easy) Add support for the 'import' header
> > 3. (easy) Get rid of 'machine()' in translated
> > 4. (easy) Gotos? They whent out in the 60's!
> They're
> > 5. (medium) Add support for the 'as' header
> directive.
> > 6. (hard) And while you're at it, why not add a
>
> > You know what? I'm out of a job right now,
> eversince
> > L&H stocks dropped to the basement (watch the news
> you
> > ass!).
>
> What?! Your Xtreme skills couldn't save them?
Yeah they could, but the stocks dropped because of
fraud in Singapore, not because of the quality of the
products we develop. (Watch the news!)
> > I'll code on Eu for free.
>
> Rob, that's hard to resist. He apparently has the
> skills, why not throw him
> a crumb?
Hehe.. Well it's true..
> > I'll show you how to field-kick Euphoria into the
> > mainstream! 2 weeks in my hands and Microsoft
> won't
> > even sell the Learners edition of VB anymore!
> > A graphical GUI tracer for all platforms, more
> > powerfull than Win32lib and portable, an IDE that
> > looks like VB on steroids, a database.e and a
> > network.e library wich make SQL look like last
> year's
> > shareware misser.
>
> It sounds good to me! Let's have it!
>
> > Mike The Spike
>
> So, no coming back under pseudonyms, right?
Right.
> Let the skills speak, not the proud tongue.
Exactly.
> -ck
>
>
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5. Re: Robert, Take Notes!
- Posted by Euman <euman at BELLSOUTH.NET>
Dec 30, 2000
-
Last edited Dec 31, 2000
TO MTS,
Personally I think your a f ' ' n idiot.
You expect people to believe you can afford a puter
but, for some reason cant afford to spend $29!
How f ' ' n stupid think do you think we are.
I also believe RDS to be a fine, reputable establishment.
One in which I have given my hard earned $'s to because
they have a stable, easy to use and user friendly
software programming tool. For them to change from this
would be suicide. Granted, Im for tighter security features
at the cost of minor speed degredation but, this is my opinion.
Dont expect for this person to hand you a F ' ' n thing.
I work hard for what I have and well, so should you.
Maybe we should throw you a freakin pitty party.
I wish you the very best VIRUS money can buy.
euman
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Cat <catjackus at YAHOO.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Robert, Take Notes!
> --- ck lester <cklester at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > Well Rob, eventhough I hate your white ass right
> > now,
> >
> > Please don't hate.
>
> Heh?
> Allright then, I hate to be an ass! (<- did I just
> sin?)
>
> > > 1. (easy) I said this in a previous post, don't
> > > 2. (easy) Add support for the 'import' header
> > > 3. (easy) Get rid of 'machine()' in translated
> > > 4. (easy) Gotos? They whent out in the 60's!
> > They're
> > > 5. (medium) Add support for the 'as' header
> > directive.
> > > 6. (hard) And while you're at it, why not add a
> >
> > > You know what? I'm out of a job right now,
> > eversince
> > > L&H stocks dropped to the basement (watch the news
> > you
> > > ass!).
> >
> > What?! Your Xtreme skills couldn't save them?
>
> Yeah they could, but the stocks dropped because of
> fraud in Singapore, not because of the quality of the
> products we develop. (Watch the news!)
>
> > > I'll code on Eu for free.
> >
> > Rob, that's hard to resist. He apparently has the
> > skills, why not throw him
> > a crumb?
>
> Hehe.. Well it's true..
>
> > > I'll show you how to field-kick Euphoria into the
> > > mainstream! 2 weeks in my hands and Microsoft
> > won't
> > > even sell the Learners edition of VB anymore!
> > > A graphical GUI tracer for all platforms, more
> > > powerfull than Win32lib and portable, an IDE that
> > > looks like VB on steroids, a database.e and a
> > > network.e library wich make SQL look like last
> > year's
> > > shareware misser.
> >
> > It sounds good to me! Let's have it!
> >
> > > Mike The Spike
> >
> > So, no coming back under pseudonyms, right?
>
> Right.
>
> > Let the skills speak, not the proud tongue.
>
> Exactly.
>
> > -ck
> >
> >
>
>
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6. Re: Robert, Take Notes!
- Posted by ck lester <cklester at YAHOO.COM>
Dec 30, 2000
-
Last edited Dec 31, 2000
Thanks for the fast reply, I think... 
> --- ck lester <cklester at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > Well Rob, eventhough I hate your white ass right
> > now,
> >
> > Please don't hate.
> >
> > > 1. (easy) I said this in a previous post, don't
> > > 2. (easy) Add support for the 'import' header
> > > 3. (easy) Get rid of 'machine()' in translated
> > > 4. (easy) Gotos? They whent out in the 60's!
> > They're
> > > 5. (medium) Add support for the 'as' header
> > directive.
> > > 6. (hard) And while you're at it, why not add a
> >
> > > You know what? I'm out of a job right now,
> > eversince
> > > L&H stocks dropped to the basement (watch the news
> > you
> > > ass!).
> >
> > What?! Your Xtreme skills couldn't save them?
> >
> > > I'll code on Eu for free.
> >
> > Rob, that's hard to resist. He apparently has the
> > skills, why not throw him
> > a crumb?
> >
> > > I'll show you how to field-kick Euphoria into the
> > > mainstream! 2 weeks in my hands and Microsoft
> > won't
> > > even sell the Learners edition of VB anymore!
> > > A graphical GUI tracer for all platforms, more
> > > powerfull than Win32lib and portable, an IDE that
> > > looks like VB on steroids, a database.e and a
> > > network.e library wich make SQL look like last
> > year's
> > > shareware misser.
> >
> > It sounds good to me! Let's have it!
> >
> > > Mike The Spike
> >
> > So, no coming back under pseudonyms, right?
> >
> > Let the skills speak, not the proud tongue.
> >
> > -ck
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7. Re: Robert, Take Notes!
>> > You know what? I'm out of a job right now,
>> eversince
>> > L&H stocks dropped to the basement (watch the news
Did EVERYBODY lose thier job? Or did they just decide
trim some dead wood?
>> What?! Your Xtreme skills couldn't save them?
>Yeah they could, but.....
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH (ROTFLMFHO)
>> > I'll code on Eu for free.
>> Rob, that's hard to resist. He apparently has the
Having the skills to dismantle something that SOMEONE ELSE
has produced is a lot diffrent to having the skills, inspiration,
foresight and work ethic to actually PRODUCE anything of your
own. I guess the poeple at L&H worked that out, eh?
>> > I'll show you how to field-kick Euphoria into the
>> > mainstream! 2 weeks in my hands ...
Sounds like your hands (or one of the at least) are
working overtime at the moment. If you're so good
why don't you bugger off and do it yourself? What do
you need RDS or EUPHORIA for?
This guy is a snake in the grass. As I can't hit it
with a shovel (much as I'd like to), I suggest we just
walk the other direction, and wait for it to go away.
Graeme.
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8. Re: Robert, Take Notes!
- Posted by Kat <gertie at PELL.NET>
Dec 30, 2000
-
Last edited Dec 31, 2000
On 30 Dec 2000, at 17:15, Jack Cat wrote:
> 4. (easy) Gotos? They whent out in the 60's! They're
> bad coding style aswell, not to mention unreadable!
> Believe me, using C flow control statements makes
> things faster! The compiler often optimizes these to
> jump tables and whatnot.
A jump table is a goto table. That's what a jmp is, a specified goto. I wrote
jmp tables back in my C64 days. I use "goto" as needed, and it beats the
socks off of multiple flag tests in program flow control, assuming a two
pass compiler or a smart interpreter.
Kat
9. Re: Robert, Take Notes!
- Posted by Jack Cat <catjackus at YAHOO.COM>
Dec 30, 2000
-
Last edited Dec 31, 2000
--- Graeme <graemeburke at CROSSWINDS.NET> wrote:
> >> > You know what? I'm out of a job right now,
> >> eversince
> >> > L&H stocks dropped to the basement (watch the
> news
>
>
> Did EVERYBODY lose thier job? Or did they just
> decide
> trim some dead wood?
Think before you write.
Nobody lost his job.
But a lot of people quit, and so did I.
> >> What?! Your Xtreme skills couldn't save them?
> >Yeah they could, but.....
>
>
> BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH (ROTFLMFHO)
Laugh while you frag...
>
> >> > I'll code on Eu for free.
> >> Rob, that's hard to resist. He apparently has the
>
>
> Having the skills to dismantle something that
> SOMEONE ELSE
> has produced is a lot diffrent to having the skills,
> inspiration,
> foresight and work ethic to actually PRODUCE
> anything of your
> own. I guess the poeple at L&H worked that out, eh?
The people at L&H didn't. They are still paying me for
a 6 month period incase I change my mind. I was the
team leader for RealSpeak you know...
>
> >> > I'll show you how to field-kick Euphoria into
> the
> >> > mainstream! 2 weeks in my hands ...
>
>
> Sounds like your hands (or one of the at least) are
> working overtime at the moment. If you're so good
> why don't you bugger off and do it yourself? What do
> you need RDS or EUPHORIA for?
>
>
>
> This guy is a snake in the grass. As I can't hit it
> with a shovel (much as I'd like to), I suggest we
> just
> walk the other direction, and wait for it to go
> away.
>
>
> Graeme.
Mike The Spike
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10. Re: Robert, Take Notes!
- Posted by Jack Cat <catjackus at YAHOO.COM>
Dec 30, 2000
-
Last edited Dec 31, 2000
> > 4. (easy) Gotos? They whent out in the 60's!
> They're
> > bad coding style aswell, not to mention
> unreadable!
> > Believe me, using C flow control statements makes
> > things faster! The compiler often optimizes these
> to
> > jump tables and whatnot.
> A jump table is a goto table. That's what a jmp is,
> a specified goto.
A goto statement gets compiled into a jmp instruction,
I know...
But some jn* instructions do not require a jmp
instruction.
> I wrote
> jmp tables back in my C64 days. I use "goto" as
> needed, and it beats the
> socks off of multiple flag tests in program flow
> control, assuming a two
> pass compiler or a smart interpreter.
>
> Kat
But still, when coding in C or C++ you are assumed to
use break; and continue; instead of gotos for advanced
program flow control. Doing otherwise is considered a
no-no for the benefit of readability.
Someone should come up with a goto vs. regular C flow
control benchmark. So we can test the speed out once
and for all.
Mike The Spike
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11. Re: Robert, Take Notes!
> TO MTS,
> Personally I think your a f ' ' n idiot.
> You expect people to believe you can afford a puter
> but, for some reason cant afford to spend $29!
Read what it says.
When I bought my computer, I walked in, dropped the
cash, and walked out with two 20inch boxes.
With Euphoria, I have to wait weeks before I get it.
Creditcard is no option, because you can't get one
that easily in Belgium (We use Proton Cards and every
store has a card reader where you slide your
electronic bank card through to make payments).
And besides, I think I deserve a free copy of the
translator.
> How f ' ' n stupid think do you think we are.
I think do we are you are!! ^
> I also believe RDS to be a fine, reputable
> establishment.
> One in which I have given my hard earned $'s to
> because
> they have a stable, easy to use and user friendly
> software programming tool. For them to change from
> this
> would be suicide. Granted, Im for tighter security
> features
> at the cost of minor speed degredation but, this is
> my opinion.
Sure, tighter security, why not..
> Dont expect for this person to hand you a F ' ' n
> thing.
Actually, I do.
> I work hard for what I have and well, so should you.
Again, read what it says!
> Maybe we should throw you a freakin pitty party.
Or maybe we should throw you a graduation party!
> I wish you the very best VIRUS money can buy.
> euman
Oh! Stop! A VIRUS! i'm afraid!
Talk like a man, pall!
Mike The Spike
PS. What the fuckin' shit does f ' ' n mean? Is it
the new kind of slinky mommy bought for you?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack Cat <catjackus at YAHOO.COM>
> To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Robert, Take Notes!
>
>
> > --- ck lester <cklester at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > > Well Rob, eventhough I hate your white ass
> right
> > > now,
> > >
> > > Please don't hate.
> >
> > Heh?
> > Allright then, I hate to be an ass! (<- did I just
> > sin?)
> >
> > > > 1. (easy) I said this in a previous post,
> don't
> > > > 2. (easy) Add support for the 'import' header
> > > > 3. (easy) Get rid of 'machine()' in translated
> > > > 4. (easy) Gotos? They whent out in the 60's!
> > > They're
> > > > 5. (medium) Add support for the 'as' header
> > > directive.
> > > > 6. (hard) And while you're at it, why not add
> a
> > >
> > > > You know what? I'm out of a job right now,
> > > eversince
> > > > L&H stocks dropped to the basement (watch the
> news
> > > you
> > > > ass!).
> > >
> > > What?! Your Xtreme skills couldn't save them?
>
> >
> > Yeah they could, but the stocks dropped because of
> > fraud in Singapore, not because of the quality of
> the
> > products we develop. (Watch the news!)
> >
> > > > I'll code on Eu for free.
> > >
> > > Rob, that's hard to resist. He apparently has
> the
> > > skills, why not throw him
> > > a crumb?
> >
> > Hehe.. Well it's true..
> >
> > > > I'll show you how to field-kick Euphoria into
> the
> > > > mainstream! 2 weeks in my hands and Microsoft
> > > won't
> > > > even sell the Learners edition of VB anymore!
> > > > A graphical GUI tracer for all platforms, more
> > > > powerfull than Win32lib and portable, an IDE
> that
> > > > looks like VB on steroids, a database.e and a
> > > > network.e library wich make SQL look like last
> > > year's
> > > > shareware misser.
> > >
> > > It sounds good to me! Let's have it!
> > >
> > > > Mike The Spike
> > >
> > > So, no coming back under pseudonyms, right?
> >
> > Right.
> >
> > > Let the skills speak, not the proud tongue.
> >
> > Exactly.
> >
> > > -ck
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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