OpenEuphoria

2. Re: IDE bugs

• Posted by Judith Evans <camping at FLASH.NET> Dec 18, 2000
• 405 views

see responses intermingled below:



On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 19:59:42 -0800, Dan B Moyer <DANMOYER at PRODIGY.NET>
wrote:

>Judith,
>
>Looks like you have put a *lot* of work into your latest version of the
IDE!
>I like the grid very much, and the <ctrl>drag to make copies of a control
is
>*real* nice!!!  Congratulations, and thanks!
>
>The new Toolbox will take some getting used to; I liked having *many*
>controls available at a time without having to work through category
choices
>to see them.  I know as you add new controls, like the progress bar, that
>you need to do something to provide for their selection without covering
the
>whole screen with them, but I wonder if you couldn't put the tool box
across
>the top like it was previously with the tool kit, with category buttons
like
>you have it now, but with *more* of the controls in each category showing,
>so there'd be less clicking to get to the control one wanted to use? Or,
>maybe just a "show all" button on the tool box, so it could expand to show
>*all* the controls at once until resized back to normal?


You can make the ToolBox show all the controls together under one heading
"control" by going into ide.exw and undo the breakdown of the controls. Try
that and see if it works better for you. I tried it that way first. Another
thing you can try is to change where the toolbox is set up there is a last
param of 32. Change that to 16. The controls will be smaller and the text to
the side but more show in each panel. When you select a control, the
highlight box surrounding the control is a bit off centered.

David had suggested putting the property sheet and toolbox as tabs in a
tabItem. That way you would have almost the full length of the control
window to see the controls. Would everyone like that better?

I figured the Tool Box would get some comments and I'll change to the most
acceptable method everyone can agree on. I do not, however, want to place
the ToolBox at the top of the window like I did before because there are
some requests to make the toolbox dockable.


>
>Problems:
>1.  The IDE takes 15 seconds to load on my system, and once generated a
>sequence of one error message after another of something like "files not
>associated with any application", dunno what that was all about because it
>was only once; but first time I used it, I ended up with 4 or 5 running
>versions because I didn't realize the first clicks were loading & I kept
>clicking again & again; I suspect this comes at least in part from the time
>it takes to draw the snap-to grid?

Yep. I don't know of a faster way to draw it; although I'm sure there is
one. I probably could make the program load, showing the design window
ungridded. That would remove the doubt that the program was running. The
grid would have to be selected.

>2.  Under "Options", "Grid", if I select "Type", and try "lines", it
>crashes;

That isn't happening to me. Do you choose only lines and then x-out? Which
version of win32lib are you using when that happens? I'm using 54.5.


>3.  The TreeView control won't run, because the default styles need to be
>or_all'd (I noticed this under Win32Lib 50, and then re-tested and got the
>same under 53).  If this is what you mean in the docu by, "This is done
>purposely in the event the user is aiming the EXW or EW file to a folder
>which uses an
>different version of Win32Lib.", then I would suggest that in the
properties
>dialog you should include some selector buttons, so the user could easily
>specify whether any defaults should be "stand-alone", or "or_all'd";

I thought about that but decided it would be overkill. Sure enough, sounds
like I should have done it.

>the
>properties dialog could also use a listbox of styles appropriate to
specific
>controls, so user could add styles by just selecting them from a list.

I certainly don't know ALL the styles possible! If anyone can supply me that
info I can certainly make a select box for them.

>
>And at first I thought the default grid spacing was too dense, but after
>playing with it a little, I now think it's just right.

That is the snap to size David used and I thought it best to keep the same
as default. It *is* a bit busy, I know.
>
>Good work!
>
>Dan

 Thanks, Dan,

I'll look into adding the options of or_all, etc to the Properties Sheet; I
think I've still got that coded somewhere. As far as the Tool Box breakdown,
lets let it jell a week or so and get more responses. Why don't you make the
changes to eliminate the breakdown and report back to the list if that works
for you or not.

Judith