OpenEuphoria

2. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Sep 27, 2009
• 2239 views

Which is exactly the reason that the flag of the USA still has the Union Jack embedded in it, right?

4. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Sep 27, 2009
• 2280 views

We can only hope

The 'republican' debate flairs up here every few years, but we still have the Queen of England as our Head Of State.

6. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Sep 27, 2009
• 2291 views

I thought you had the Queen of Australia as your Head Of State. (Yes, I know they're the same person. Elizabeth Alexandra Mary is the only person in all of history to be head of state of so many different countries.)

8. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by Fendaril Sep 27, 2009
• 2392 views

I disagree with Jim because very few people who use Euphoria even know its origins from Canada.

10. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by jacques_desch Sep 27, 2009
• 2231 views

Forget about flags of any kind. It is about programming not nationalism.

Jacques

12. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Sep 28, 2009
• 2182 views

I agree. Anything that could have a strong tie (whether intended or not, global or not) to one individual country, IMHO, is bad. i.e. a Maple Leaf, esp. a red maple leaf.

Jeremy

14. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by kinz Sep 28, 2009
• 2216 views

Let's just read the docs.

http://www.rapideuphoria.com/relnotes.htm

relnotes.htm says:

Version 1.0, July 1993: Euphoria was first released after 3 years of research and development and 6 months of Beta testing. Many of the ideas behind Euphoria came from Robert Craig's Master's Thesis in Computer Science at the University of Toronto. That thesis was strongly influenced by the work of John Backus on functional programming (FP) languages.

Let's see the very first readme.doc.

It says:

			--------------------- 
			    Euphoria 1.0 
			Public Domain Edition 
			--------------------- 
 
 Welcome to Euphoria! ... End User Programming with Hierarchical Objects 
			  for Robust Interpreted Applications 
 
 Euphoria is a new programming language developed by Rapid Deployment Software, 
 a Canadian software research and development firm. 
 
 Euphoria is primarily a language for =End User's= like yourself. These are 
 people who want to develop software for their own use. They want fast, 
 easy development. They cannot recover the cost of their labor by selling 
 hundreds or thousands of copies of their programs. They do not want to spend 
 countless hours debugging. They do not have the time or inclination to 
 learn a large, complex language intended for professional programmers, but 
 they need something better than BASIC. 

So, let's learn and do not forget our history...

Regards,
kinz

16. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by alanjohnoxley Sep 28, 2009
• 2157 views

I'm South African, ie from the "Rainbow nation". So I prefer the old Euphoria logo ;) Seriously though, I agree with leaving out flags to not give offence anywhere.

REgards Alan

18. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by Fendaril Sep 28, 2009
• 2150 views

I personally think jeremy that we should make a logo that includes every flag. This will solve any problem of nationalism.

20. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Sep 28, 2009
• 2143 views

There are too many flags for this to be practical. Especially as an icon. Better to have no flag at all.

22. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by jacques_desch Sep 28, 2009
• 2128 views

Irv,

As a Canadian myself I'm certainly not offended by the use of the red mapple leaf. It is just that I don't see the point of using it in euphoria language logo. Beside anyone is free to use the logo he want to use with is programs but the official euphoria is an international effort. Linux kernel logo is not flagged with Norwegian flag and everyone knows that it is the initial creation of a Norwegian and that Linus Torvalds is still a major contributor to it.

Jacques

P.S. Although I don't understand why Jeremy have a problem with the color of our flag I certainly won't start a flame on it.

24. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by kinz Sep 28, 2009
• 2112 views

Are you sure?
PSPad is Czech, and Czech flag stands on the first place,
just under that nice dog.
Do you see the flags on PSPad page are not placed strongly alphabetically?
Almost same thing you can see in my project with flags.
The Canada flag is first one, but sequence with flags of other
registered countries is sorted alphabetically - without any
offence.

Regards,
kinz

26. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Sep 28, 2009
• 2089 views

Yes, I am 100% positive that the PSPad logo does not have any flag in it. The logo is the dog and the pen w/PSPad. The flags are language selection. If you wish to translate the Euphoria website into many different languages and put up flags for each language selection, I'm all for it and will be behind you 110%.

Jeremy

28. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by jacques_desch Sep 28, 2009
• 2118 views

No offense Jeremy I was just refering to comment number 12 where you written:

"... IMHO, is bad. i.e. a Maple Leaf, esp. a red maple leaf."

It just caught my attention.

Jacques

30. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by kinz Sep 28, 2009
• 2091 views

Who 'he' ?

This translation is my one. To Russian only. By hands.
Not an automatic by Google or such.

And it is a problem - no one else wants to translate the
RDS site or OpenEuphoria site to his\her native language
by hands, nor automatically.

See? 67 registered countries and only Russian translation.

So logo with flags is good - shows a problem with distribution
of EU knowledge in different languages.

And automatic translation is very poor.

Regards,
kinz

32. Re: Canadian Euphoria

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Sep 28, 2009
• 2094 views

Yes, as it has even more special attention to Canada, even though red maple leaves are all over.

Jeremy