Re: Regarding Dot NET
Vincent wrote:
>
> D. Newhall wrote:
> >
> > A lot of it is. BSD is used by most commercial web servers and would be the
> > prime target
> > for malicious code if you wanted to interfere with a large company's
> > buisness. Yet
> > BSD has still survived these past 30 years being the most secure and stable
> > OS available
> > outside of the government.
> >
>
> There is a whole bunch aimed at typical user too.. In fact 100,000's of
> trojans, worms,
> virues, adware, spyware, keyloggers, etc. all aimed at Windows users. Now lets
> consider
> the average user, who just doesnt want the complexity of Unix based systems.
> There
> are only a few Linux distros that I believe are friendly to use: SuSE and
> Linspire.
> But if Windows is already installed, the typical user will just live with it.
Nowadays the setup of most distros has gotten really smooth. An exception to
this is quite often installing drivers for some stuff that doesn't have a Free
driver and therefore cannot be included in a Free (as in free beer) OS.
> > > > > That will prevent Linux or BSD from ever dominating the desktop
> > > > > domain.
> > > >
> > > > I think (and hope) that Vista is too little too late. M$ does have a
> > > > hold
> > > > on the personal desktop, but with more and more corporations switching
> > > > to
> > > > Linux/BSD, I think that marketshare will erode over the course of the
> > > > next
> > > > 10-20 years. That's good news for the generation below me. :)
> > >
> > > That may be true currently, but once Vista is released at the end of 2006,
> > > I suspect
> > > that outlook will change. But currently the fact alone that 95% of new
> > > computers come
> > > with Windows pre-installed, and the fact that I cant go to just any
> > > computer retail
> > > store, and purchase Linux is a poor indication of your point. Stores dont
> > > want to sell
> > > software that you can legally get for free elsewhere.
> > You can get copies of SuSE, Novell, and Red Hat Linux at Best Buy and
> > Staples.
>
> SuSE and Novell? arnt they using the basiclly the same core?: "Novell Linux
> Desktop
> powered by SUSE LINUX". Red Hat and Fedora... I can download them for free,
> I'm sure
> they are just flying off the selves ;). Unfortunatlly there happens to be no
> Best Buy
> in Southern Oregon, or Frys Electronics :(.
Novell is the corporation that makes SuSE linux.
Red Hat Linux is commercial, and cannot be downloaded, if you aren't
referring to some warez site ;).
Also, if you ask nicely, some corporations that you can purchase linux from over
the net will even ship world-wide. So it doesn't matter if you live in Bangladesh
or the US. And I believe that many will ship to the whole US.
> >
> > > 10 to 20 years from now, Windows will probably be a completley different
> > > entity, not
> > > even called Windows. Vista may be a little too late, but Microsoft will
> > > spend billions
> > > of dollars in marketing to get back in the game. Microsoft has huge amount
> > > of power
> > > because because of its money. Billions of dollars is little more than
> > > ice-cream money
> > > to Microsoft.
> > > Microsoft has had a long history of falling behind and then catching up.
> > > In the end
> > > the one with the most money always wins.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > There could be an Euphoria.NET, but it would have to become a full
> > > > > object oriented
> > > > > language.
> > > >
> > > > Can you tell me why or point me to relevant articles?
> > >
> > > Well there could be an Euphoria to MSIL translator, but since the language
> > > isnt even
> > > OO, having the programmer handle .NET namespaces, classes, objects, etc.
> > > would be a
> > > big problem now wouldnt it. Anything is possible, but if it was done it
> > > would be an
> > > awful hack that everyone would want to avoid.
> > You wouldn't need to. It's completely possible to write a Euphoria (or any
> > other language)
> > interpreter and have the user never even know it's using .NET.
> >
>
> Heh, right good "BS". You will still need the framework, and it would be one
> huge internal
> wrapper.
Does it really need to wrap the full framework? Ain't it enough to know that it
is possible?
> > The thing I don't know if you realize is that no one's going to switch to
> > .NET immediately.
> > Companies still need to make their stuff backwards compatible and rarely
> > completely
> > reengineer their software unless they have to. In fact, I HIGHLY doubt that
> > by 2008
> > everybody will be using .NET. Plus Microsoft is well know for their hyping
> > the "new
> > technology of the future" and end up going back to what they've done before.
> > The hyped
> > OS/2, tried to get a new internet protocol they designed standardized (and
> > Bill Gates
> > got laughed out of the commitee while doing so), and said they'd never add
> > DOS compatability
> > to NT (which they eventually did for backwads compatability). I expect MS to
> > get a
> > LOT of angry customers if they don't handle this well.
> >
>
> Well perhaps microsoft will extend support for Win32 a little longer, who
> knows.
Microshaft Winblows XP is even partly compatible with DOS. Win32 compatibility
will last many years or even decades into the future.
> Microsoft
> has lots of resources on migration to .NET, and those who wish to get ahead
> with Vista,
> will have to move. According to Microsoft, 1000's of companies are migrating
> to .NET
> each year.
Do you really believe what the marketing part of Microsoft is saying? Come on,
it's a big corporation that just wants you to buy their product!
> > Also, in regards to your last post, why no mention of Apple and Mac OS X?
> > That's probably
> > MS's biggest competitor right now (and IMO have a much better product).
> >
>
> Apple's OS X Tiger is very impressive, but Apple computer market represents
> 1.8 percent
> of the worldwide desktop market and 2.9 percent of the global portable market.
> In the
> United States, Apple’s strongest region, share is only 3.7 percent. Microsoft
> is competing
> with their OS, but Apple does not represent a threat to Microsoft. In fact
> Apple could
> be herting themselves by the switch to Intel architecure. Could a PC crack of
> MacOS
> X become available? Maybe.
>
I'd say that two percent is a big threat against Microsoft's monopoly.
Also, prices will go down and/or performance will increase if they use intel
cpus, just because there's a huge amount of such cpus made every year.
And there will probably be some crack available, as with any other product.
Regards, Alexander Toresson
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