1. Is machine language that big?
- Posted by Alan Tu <ATU5713 at COMPUSERVE.COM> May 22, 1998
- 690 views
Big isn't the right word. First, its not the right technical term. = Second, big is an understatement. I compiled BUZZ.EX for a friend and for my own enjoyment (with BIND). Th= e original file was 2,342 bytes and the resultant was 177,something bytes. = Is machine language that cumbersome? --Alan =
2. Re: Is machine language that big?
- Posted by Robert B Pilkington <bpilkington at JUNO.COM> May 22, 1998
- 699 views
>Big isn't the right word. First, its not the right technical term. >Second, big is an understatement. > >I compiled BUZZ.EX for a friend and for my own enjoyment (with BIND). >The original file was 2,342 bytes and the resultant was 177,something >bytes. > >Is machine language that cumbersome? BIND creates a copy of EX.EXE (BINDW makes a copy of EXW.EXE) and appends the shrouded form of the .EX to it. (I don't know if it needs to modify anything about the copy of the interpreter... But that's basically what happens.) So, basically, you get EX.EXE (or EXW.EXE) and a shrouded BUZZ.EX in BUZZ.EXE when you bind a BUZZ.EX. FWIW (For what it's worth), I have a modified version of BUZZ that uses a data file similar to: "Computer Industry Forcast" {"Researchers predict that", "Very soon, we can confidently say," } {"Compaq", "Micro$oft", "Euphoria (the greatest programming language ever)" } {"will", "may", "must", "could", "might" } {"crush", "by out", "sell out to" } Then I bound it and took it to school. That way, it could easily be changed and added to. (Completely, including the header, if that was wanted.) IIRC (If I recall correctly), I added the "will","may",etc part to increase the variety of it. (And one classmate did it very effectively..) I also fixed the Word Wrap part to work perfectly.... :) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
3. Re: Is machine language that big?
- Posted by Irv <irv at ELLIJAY.COM> May 22, 1998
- 697 views
- Last edited May 23, 1998
At 07:35 PM 5/22/98 -0400, Alan Tu wrote: >Big isn't the right word. First, its not the right technical term. = > >Second, big is an understatement. > >I compiled BUZZ.EX for a friend and for my own enjoyment (with BIND). Th= >e >original file was 2,342 bytes and the resultant was 177,something bytes. = > >Is machine language that cumbersome? Big: Of course, bind does not compile a program, just tacks your Euphoria code onto a copy of ex.exe so you can send it out in one package. (and people can't mess with it). Using assembly language you could probably write the same program to fit in 5 or 6,000 bytes. Cumbersome: However, the assembly code might run to 20 or 30 pages of incomprehensible code. You pays your money and you takes your choice....... Irv
4. Re: Is machine language that big?
- Posted by "Bonn Ortloff (\"LEVIATHAN\")" <ortlofffamily at WORLDNET.ATT.NET> May 23, 1998
- 697 views
Alan Tu wrote: > Big isn't the right word. First, its not the right technical term. > Second, big is an understatement. > > I compiled BUZZ.EX for a friend and for my own enjoyment (with BIND). The > original file was 2,342 bytes and the resultant was 177,something bytes. > Is machine language that cumbersome? > > --Alan If you have read the documentation, it says that 170k is the ex.exe (exw.exe), 5k for .e (.ew) files, and 2k for the actual code. Byebye. - "LEVIATHAN"