1. VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

thought i might make that clear to the anti compiler crew we have in this forum

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2. VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

besides what's the go with releasing my first major coding project and
having it attacked before i can even respond to the users post,
in less than an hour, mind u im quite flattered brian put it in a 
category and compared it to judith's ide without even running it
, good 1 mate , judge something before you see it, always works like
a charm , and then to go on and talk about viruses and stuff, thanks
for trying to scare away anyone who is thinking about my hard work.
The thanx i get for weeks of early early mornings and a personal 
contribution to RDS

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3. Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

your average Joe wrote:
> 
> besides what's the go with releasing my first major coding project and
> having it attacked before i can even respond to the users post,
> in less than an hour, mind u im quite flattered brian put it in a 
> category and compared it to judith's ide without even running it
> , good 1 mate , judge something before you see it, always works like
> a charm , and then to go on and talk about viruses and stuff, thanks
> for trying to scare away anyone who is thinking about my hard work.
> The thanx i get for weeks of early early mornings and a personal 
> contribution to RDS
> 

Dude, chill... remember when I said "This is not intended to be a 
personal attack on Joe or his VE."?  I really meant it.  There are
already plenty of "no source" contributions and I wasn't trying to
imply that any of them were malicious.  I was just thinking out loud
about how easy it would be.

Believe me, I could whip-up a doozy Eu EXE that you'd have no clue about
on first test... (in fact, I could probably provide source that you'd have
no clue about)  But I wouldn't nor am I trying to brag.  It's just a
fact and I'm sure many of us here *could*.

Anyway, you are free to do as you will and if your product is good then
we'll hear about those favorable reactions on the forum.  However, 
there's no need to drop a big attitude around here because many don't 
much care for it.  Our intent here is to learn and/or help.

-- Brian

PS:
global procedure forumhandler(object self, object events, object parms)

	if self = brianbroker then 

	-- imagine resorting to my punctuation to try and show me up
	
	end if	

end procedure
setHandler(forum,w32tosserremark,routine_id("forumhandler")) 



ForumMain(forum,Normal)


So basically your comeback is: "An non-existant Win32Lib-style event-
handler with a juvenile name that does nothing even if brianbroker was 
in his face."? 

heh... don't start

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4. Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

well think to yourself the comparisons people may draw when u say the name
of my program and virus in the same context

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5. Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

it's the concept brian, in your ignorance u missed the concept, you
couldn't look at it for what it is, and never will, besides
id be off doing something with my life while u sat there and made
sure youd got your grammar right mate

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6. Re: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

umm...average Joe...just a question....
you don't happen to be a native of the "Perl beginners mailing list" do you?

Michelle

> 
> From: your average Joe <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
> Date: 2004/09/23 Thu AM 08:34:24 EDT
> To: EUforum at topica.com
> Subject: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library
> 
> 
> posted by: your average Joe <spent_memory at hotmail.com>
> 
> it's the concept brian, in your ignorance u missed the concept, you
> couldn't look at it for what it is, and never will, besides
> id be off doing something with my life while u sat there and made
> sure youd got your grammar right mate
> 
> 
> 
>

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7. Re: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

nope i dislike perl, nuff said


On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:31:01 -0400, michellerogers at bellsouth.net
<michellerogers at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> umm...average Joe...just a question....
> you don't happen to be a native of the "Perl beginners mailing list" do you?
> 
> Michelle
> 
> >
> > From: your average Joe <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
> > Date: 2004/09/23 Thu AM 08:34:24 EDT
> > To: EUforum at topica.com
> > Subject: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library
> >
> >
> > posted by: your average Joe <spent_memory at hotmail.com>
> >
> > it's the concept brian, in your ignorance u missed the concept, you
> > couldn't look at it for what it is, and never will, besides
> > id be off doing something with my life while u sat there and made
> > sure youd got your grammar right mate
> >
> >
> 
> 
>

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8. Re: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

spent memory wrote:
> nope i dislike perl, nuff said
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:31:01 -0400, michellerogers at bellsouth.net
> <michellerogers at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > umm...average Joe...just a question....
> > you don't happen to be a native of the "Perl beginners mailing list" do you?

The reason Michelle asked this, is not because of her or your interest in
the Perl-language, but because of the negative and aggressive attitude on
the Perl mailing list.

I too find your attitude a bit too aggressive.
You're probably new to this list, but you'll notice that people here are
usually nice and polite, and most posts are made with good intentions.
Nobody's trying to attack you personally. If someone gives critique on
your posts or work, it's usually with the purpose of improvement.
If you publish a program or code, you can expect critisism and you
shouldn't be so defensive. Look at it from a neutral position and you'll
see that most people are trying to help.

Now don't see this post as a personal attack.

--
tommy online: http://users.telenet.be/tommycarlier
tommy.blog: http://tommycarlier.blogspot.com
Euphoria Message Board: http://uboard.proboards32.com

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9. Re: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

ahh, ok, sorry then, you just sounded like some of the people I met there.

Michelle
> 
> From: spent memory <spent.memory at gmail.com>
> Date: 2004/09/23 Thu PM 12:37:45 EDT
> To: EUforum at topica.com
> Subject: Re: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library
> 
> 
> nope i dislike perl, nuff said
> 
> 
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:31:01 -0400, michellerogers at bellsouth.net
> <michellerogers at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > 
> > umm...average Joe...just a question....
> > you don't happen to be a native of the "Perl beginners mailing list" do you?
> > 
> > Michelle
> > 
> > >
> > > From: your average Joe <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
> > > Date: 2004/09/23 Thu AM 08:34:24 EDT
> > > To: EUforum at topica.com
> > > Subject: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library
> > >
> > >
> > > posted by: your average Joe <spent_memory at hotmail.com>
> > >
> > > it's the concept brian, in your ignorance u missed the concept, you
> > > couldn't look at it for what it is, and never will, besides
> > > id be off doing something with my life while u sat there and made
> > > sure youd got your grammar right mate
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
>

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10. Re: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

fair enough.....


On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:56:55 -0700, Tommy Carlier
<guest at rapideuphoria.com> wrote:
> 
> posted by: Tommy Carlier <tommy.carlier at telenet.be>
> 
> spent memory wrote:
> > nope i dislike perl, nuff said
> > On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:31:01 -0400, michellerogers at bellsouth.net
> > <michellerogers at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > umm...average Joe...just a question....
> > > you don't happen to be a native of the "Perl beginners mailing list" do
> > > you?
> 
> The reason Michelle asked this, is not because of her or your interest in
> the Perl-language, but because of the negative and aggressive attitude on
> the Perl mailing list.
> 
> I too find your attitude a bit too aggressive.
> You're probably new to this list, but you'll notice that people here are
> usually nice and polite, and most posts are made with good intentions.
> Nobody's trying to attack you personally. If someone gives critique on
> your posts or work, it's usually with the purpose of improvement.
> If you publish a program or code, you can expect critisism and you
> shouldn't be so defensive. Look at it from a neutral position and you'll
> see that most people are trying to help.
> 
> Now don't see this post as a personal attack.
> 
> --
> tommy online: http://users.telenet.be/tommycarlier
> tommy.blog: http://tommycarlier.blogspot.com
> Euphoria Message Board: http://uboard.proboards32.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

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11. Re: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

look im not trying to be rude, i'm just defending my program, someone
starts a thread
wanting to ban bound programs, 40 mins after i release something i've worked
on for weeks, and then suggesting bound programs are a median for
virii , further
giving my project a bad wrap. I hardly call that constructive
critisism and half the people
involved in this discussion probably haven't even downloaded the
program, it happened to strike some nerve in the euphoria community
about bound and open-source projects.


On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 03:00:46 +1000, spent memory <spent.memory at gmail.com>
wrote:
> fair enough.....
> 
> 
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:56:55 -0700, Tommy Carlier
> <guest at rapideuphoria.com> wrote:
> >
> > posted by: Tommy Carlier <tommy.carlier at telenet.be>
> >
> > spent memory wrote:
> > > nope i dislike perl, nuff said
> > > On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:31:01 -0400, michellerogers at bellsouth.net
> > > <michellerogers at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > umm...average Joe...just a question....
> > > > you don't happen to be a native of the "Perl beginners mailing list" do
> > > > you?
> >
> > The reason Michelle asked this, is not because of her or your interest in
> > the Perl-language, but because of the negative and aggressive attitude on
> > the Perl mailing list.
> >
> > I too find your attitude a bit too aggressive.
> > You're probably new to this list, but you'll notice that people here are
> > usually nice and polite, and most posts are made with good intentions.
> > Nobody's trying to attack you personally. If someone gives critique on
> > your posts or work, it's usually with the purpose of improvement.
> > If you publish a program or code, you can expect critisism and you
> > shouldn't be so defensive. Look at it from a neutral position and you'll
> > see that most people are trying to help.
> >
> > Now don't see this post as a personal attack.
> >
> > --
> > tommy online: http://users.telenet.be/tommycarlier
> > tommy.blog: http://tommycarlier.blogspot.com
> > Euphoria Message Board: http://uboard.proboards32.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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12. Re: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

spent memory wrote:
> look im not trying to be rude, i'm just defending my program, someone
> starts a thread
> wanting to ban bound programs, 40 mins after i release something i've worked
> on for weeks, and then suggesting bound programs are a median for
> virii , further
> giving my project a bad wrap. I hardly call that constructive
> critisism and half the people
> involved in this discussion probably haven't even downloaded the
> program, it happened to strike some nerve in the euphoria community
> about bound and open-source projects.

I don't think the banning is specifically aimed at your program. But there
have been bad experiences with bound programs in the contribs, that did
some bad stuff. Of course you're allowed to contribute a bound program,
I have no problem with that. Especially when it's only a program, and not
a library. And even libraries can be contributed in a bound form. Like
someone else already said, Pete's Print Preview-library is a fine example
of such a bound library.

--
tommy online: http://users.telenet.be/tommycarlier
tommy.blog: http://tommycarlier.blogspot.com
Euphoria Message Board: http://uboard.proboards32.com

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13. Re: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

I think that's part of the point that was being made though.  Yes, at least half
of the ones involved in the discussion haven't downloaded the program.  That's
the point.  Most probably will not download it, if we can't view the source.
> 
> From: spent memory <spent.memory at gmail.com>
> Date: 2004/09/23 Thu PM 01:13:52 EDT
> To: EUforum at topica.com
> Subject: Re: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library
> 
> 
> look im not trying to be rude, i'm just defending my program, someone
> starts a thread
> wanting to ban bound programs, 40 mins after i release something i've worked
> on for weeks, and then suggesting bound programs are a median for
> virii , further
> giving my project a bad wrap. I hardly call that constructive
> critisism and half the people
> involved in this discussion probably haven't even downloaded the
> program, it happened to strike some nerve in the euphoria community
> about bound and open-source projects.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 03:00:46 +1000, spent memory <spent.memory at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > fair enough.....
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:56:55 -0700, Tommy Carlier
> > <guest at rapideuphoria.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > posted by: Tommy Carlier <tommy.carlier at telenet.be>
> > >
> > > spent memory wrote:
> > > > nope i dislike perl, nuff said
> > > > On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:31:01 -0400, michellerogers at bellsouth.net
> > > > <michellerogers at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > > umm...average Joe...just a question....
> > > > > you don't happen to be a native of the "Perl beginners mailing list"
> > > > > do you?
> > >
> > > The reason Michelle asked this, is not because of her or your interest in
> > > the Perl-language, but because of the negative and aggressive attitude on
> > > the Perl mailing list.
> > >
> > > I too find your attitude a bit too aggressive.
> > > You're probably new to this list, but you'll notice that people here are
> > > usually nice and polite, and most posts are made with good intentions.
> > > Nobody's trying to attack you personally. If someone gives critique on
> > > your posts or work, it's usually with the purpose of improvement.
> > > If you publish a program or code, you can expect critisism and you
> > > shouldn't be so defensive. Look at it from a neutral position and you'll
> > > see that most people are trying to help.
> > >
> > > Now don't see this post as a personal attack.
> > >
> > > --
> > > tommy online: http://users.telenet.be/tommycarlier
> > > tommy.blog: http://tommycarlier.blogspot.com
> > > Euphoria Message Board: http://uboard.proboards32.com
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
>

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14. Re: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "spent memory"
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: Re: VE is an Euphoria Code Editor -- Not a routine library


> look im not trying to be rude, i'm just defending my program, someone
> starts a thread
> wanting to ban bound programs, 40 mins after i release something i've worked
> on for weeks, and then suggesting bound programs are a median for
> virii , further
> giving my project a bad wrap. I hardly call that constructive
> critisism and half the people
> involved in this discussion probably haven't even downloaded the
> program, it happened to strike some nerve in the euphoria community
> about bound and open-source projects.
> 

Right!  A nerve that already existed but had yet been spoken.

All this top posting is really starting to grate on my nerves.

    unkmar

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