1. error
- Posted by mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA
Aug 11, 2001
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2. Re: error
- Posted by thinkways at YAHOO.COM
Aug 11, 2001
the pattern of beeps could be a post code
(power on self test). Is your motherboard getting
proper ventillation?
try this link for beep codes.
http://www.pcguide.com/ts/x/sys/beep/
--- mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA wrote:
>
> I know that this is an oftoppic but I need help .
> After a short time my computer just restarts . Then
> it gives these long beeps . What is it ? Thanks to
> this I have lost a lot of code . Please help .
>
> FG
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3. Re: error
--- mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA wrote:
> >
> > I know that this is an oftoppic but I need help .
> > After a short time my computer just restarts . Then
> > it gives these long beeps . What is it ? Thanks to
> > this I have lost a lot of code . Please help .
> >
That's most likely a memory error. It may be that the memory is ok, but is
just
loose in the socket, or there is some corrosion on the contacts.
If you don't mind opening up your computer, you might try unplugging the
memory, blowing the dust out of things, and plugging it back in. Sometimes
that helps. Be sure the power is off, and don't unplug anything you don't
know
how to plug in again!
Regards,
Irv
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5. Re: error
- Posted by rforno at tutopia.com
Aug 12, 2001
Kat:
Sometimes I have noticed a power drop lasting perhaps 1/10th of a second in
the room lights, that did not affect the PC. This is much more than your
1/120th of a second. This is because the AC power is rectified and
stabilized in the power source inside the computer, where there is a
capacitor that can hold the low-level voltage for a fraction of a second.
But if the outside voltage is a bit low, when it drops more for let's say
one or two seconds, it may cause the PC to reset.
----- Original Message -----
From: <gertie at ad-tek.net>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: RE: error
>
> On 11 Aug 2001, at 19:04, Bernie Ryan wrote:
>
> > >
> >
> > mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA wrote:
> > > I know that this is an oftoppic but I need help . After a short time
my
> > > computer just restarts . Then it gives these long beeps . What is it ?
> > > Thanks to this I have lost a lot of code . Please help .
> > >
> > > FG
> > >
> > >
> > Its sounds like you are have a problem with bad memory.
> > One of the memory dim/sim boards may be loose or going bad.
> >
> > The other possibilty is that your power supply is going bad
> > or something in the system is loaded down the power supply voltages
> > intermittently.
>
> If the power drops off for one cycle, 1/120th of a second, the puter can
get massive
> heart failure, and may reboot, or lock up. Designing power suplies with no
margin
> makes them lighter, cheaper, and more efficient, so it also means
everything else
> must be better,,, and the power company is the weakest link, followed by
flakey outlet
> strips. Get a small UPS, with 10 minutes of puter + monitor power, and
plug the puter
> into it, not an outlet strip. My UPS beeps at least once a day, usually
several times a
> day. Each beep is at least a micro power outage, and would have wiped the
puter if the
> UPS had not caught it. I had given up on using ibm-clone puters while i
still had the
> C64, because i could run the C64 on batteries, while the power co kept
killing the big
> puter.
>
> A bad program writing outside allotted memory will also reboot the puter.
>
> Kat
>
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>
6. Re: error
On 11 Aug 2001, at 20:49, rforno at tutopia.com wrote:
> >
> Kat:
> Sometimes I have noticed a power drop lasting perhaps 1/10th of a second in
> the
> room lights, that did not affect the PC. This is much more than your 1/120th
> of
> a second.
You must not have a very loaded computer. I have 3 harddrives which get
used often enough that they never sleep 24-7, etc etc.. Could be you have a
problem with the room lights too, or that power circuit.
> This is because the AC power is rectified and stabilized in the power
> source inside the computer, where there is a capacitor that can hold the
> low-level voltage for a fraction of a second. But if the outside voltage is a
> bit low, when it drops more for let's say one or two seconds, it may cause the
> PC to reset.
Thats cute, hun.
To make this short, i know what a capacitor is and how they operate and
their ratings. That fraction of a second can be remarkably short.
There is no way you will get a desktop puter to stay awake thru a 1 sec
power blackout, with the harddrives running, on a standard PC power supply.
The secondary side caps are there more for filtering than bulk storage, the
primary side caps are as small as possible to make the supply cheaper.
Rule of thumb: if the 120v power skips *one* cycle, the puter is in trouble,,
and 99.9% of the time, you can count on it crashing if two are missed. I have
watched on the scope as cheaper supplies went out of proper regulation if
*1/2* of a cycle got clipped. This also depends on the powerline, how much it
charged the primary side caps before the power was cut, the cap's ESR,
circuit design, etc... Your mileage may vary, but i swear *by* the battery
backup supplies, and i swear *at* the power companies.
And by the way, *most* equipment power supplies use only the peak of the
sine wave, and i have seen many times, on outdoor stage events, when the
power amps clobber the line peaks, the mixer or other equipment screws up
royally. Puter power supplies also use only the peaks, and if that *peak*
drops below 130v, it's useless as the supplies are designed, even if the lights
are still on.
Kat
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7. Re: error
----- Original Message -----
From: Kat <gertie at PELL.NET>
<snipps>
> Your mileage may vary, but i swear *by* the battery
> backup supplies, and i swear *at* the power companies.
Which reminds me, what kind of UPS was that which survived the lightening
strike
recently? Sounds like a pretty good one to have.
Regards,
Irv
8. Re: error
On 12 Aug 2001, at 15:48, Irv Mullins wrote:
> >
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kat <gertie at PELL.NET>
>
> <snipps>
>
> > Your mileage may vary, but i swear *by* the battery
> > backup supplies, and i swear *at* the power companies.
>
> Which reminds me, what kind of UPS was that which survived the lightening
> strike
> recently? Sounds like a pretty good one to have.
"Blackout Buster". It was the best price and the best specs i could find. It
has a remote control interface, and is rather intelligent.
The phone line into the UPS was melted down, plastic all over the place, the
wire contacts in the phone jack on the back of the UPS were melted down,
the pine tree died, the electrical heat tape on the water pipe into House is
melted down, and one GFI breaker is toast as well. The puter is fine (it didn't
hiccup thru the whole stormy day), so is the modem, and the audio/video
equipment. I now have the phone line run thru another MOV arrestor block.
For times when the power is out over 5 minutes, i have a separate
continuous duty invertor on a deep discharge battery good for 10 hrs, and a
baby generator for longer times of power outages. To me, it's just foolhardy
to use a puter without being able to supply your own electricity for at least
the time it takes to execute a controlled shutdown. Even if you don't mind
losing all the code you just wrote since the last save, and the data files, the
MS OSs will surely wipe themselves out when they run scandisk and trash
the open files when you reboot. And i prefer to keep Tiggr online all the time,
some people have come to expect her to be there, so i place a premium on
reliability. There was an animated discussion the other night about just *how*
alive she is, and the definitions of such words as "alive" and "program", and
she participated in the discussion, in her own defense. Under those
conditions, one could think of the UPS as a life support system, eh?
Kat
9. error
Well, this is a new one on me:
unknown command
end if
^
Kat
10. error
the newbies message board is going nowhere. no matter what pass
word I put in, it won't accept it. then when I go back & try
another one, it say that name is in use. how can it be in use if
it wouldn't accept it? so long, try again, maybe you'll get it
right next time.
11. Re: error
david wrote:
> the newbies message board is going nowhere. no matter what pass
> word I put in, it won't accept it. then when I go back & try
> another one, it say that name is in use. how can it be in use if
> it wouldn't accept it? so long, try again, maybe you'll get it
> right next time.
Do you want me to delete you (I mean: your name 
), so you can
try again?
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12. Re: error
The board & the newbies who want to use it would be better served
if the webmaster (or whoever maintains it) figured out what was
causing the error & corrected it. Thanks for responding.
