1. Euphoria, Windows & .NET
- Posted by Tommy Carlier <tommy.carlier at telenet.be> Aug 02, 2005
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OK, I've just read all the posts about Euphoria, Windows and .NET. And I have some remarks about the topic. I've been working with C# and .NET daily, for about 2.5 years. At the company we work, we ONLY program in .NET. Someone has said .NET is crap, well it's not. We create applications (client, server, utility, ...) with millions of lines of code, and I couldn't imagine doing this in Euphoria. I like Euphoria, but its purpose is not the same as the purpose of C#/.NET. A lot of people also don't know what C# and .NET is and what the relationship is. .NET is a run-time (like Java's run-time), that contains tools and libraries for all kinds of functionality. Imagine it like Euphoria with all standard libraries like Win32Lib, XML, networking, ... included. C# is only one of the supported languages. VB.NET is another. You can only criticize stuff you know about. Don't say .NET is crap if you haven't used it. Don't say OOP is too complex if you haven't worked with it. Don't say Windows Vista is as crappy as previous version, since it isn't even completed yet. Right now, Beta 1 is available for MSDN subscribers, and beta 1 doesn't even have most of the features that will be in the final version. I'm professionaly working with .NET, and because of that, I try to stay up to date as much as possible. I read every new article, I watch the videos, I work daily in .NET 1.1 and Visual Studio 2003, I'm now experimenting with the new .NET 2.0 beta and Visual Studio 2005, so I think I'm in a good position to judge it all. I've also heard someone say Linux is better because it's open-source. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but open-source doesn't make it better. FireFox is open-source, Opera is not. Still Opera is technologically a lot better. Closed-source applications are usually created by companies that make a living of it. If they create bad products, they'll make less money. Euphoria is closed-source. Is it therefor a bad product? I think not. Just my 2 cents. -- The Internet combines the excitement of typing with the reliability of anonymous hearsay. tommy online: http://users.telenet.be/tommycarlier tommy.blog: http://tommycarlier.blogspot.com
2. Re: Euphoria, Windows & .NET
- Posted by Ferlin Scarborough <ferlin1 at bellsouth.net> Aug 02, 2005
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Tommy Carlier wrote: > <snip> > is. .NET is a run-time (like Java's run-time), that contains tools and > libraries for all kinds of functionality. Imagine it like Euphoria with all > standard libraries like Win32Lib, XML, networking, ... included. > C# is only one of the supported languages. VB.NET is another. > I have programmed with VB for years, and I NEVER liked the idea of having to have a run-time library for it, that is the problem with Java also is run-time libraries, they just bloat your software. > You can only criticize stuff you know about. Don't say .NET is crap if you > haven't used it. Don't say OOP is too complex if you haven't worked with >it. <snip> I HAVE used .NET and programmed using C# and VB.NET, and still think it is uncessary crap. If I get software that requires .NET a (24MB) download, I just do NOT install or use it, besides I can find software to do exactly the same thing, sometimes better, that does not require me to install additional junk. So, until the point where Microsoft FORCES people to use .NET, I'll either switch OS's completely, or install it but HATE having to use it. Later. Ferlin Scarborough Learn To Program Games in Free Courses Now contains an Introduction To Euphoria Programming Course At http://www.gameuniv.net My Euphoria Home Page http://mywebpage.netscape.com/shadetreesoft My Free Games Page http://freewebtown.com/ferlin