1. Re: Non-native English Speakers
Guys:
Let's just be nice to each other. It's obvious some members of this discussion
group are non-native English speakers. Why not just get back to the discussion
of what matters: Euphoria and programming?
Regards,
Frank
Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen wrote:
> >Ralf:
> >
> >I realize English is your second launguage so here
> >is a new word for you: Profane
> >
> >Your posts are becoming increasingly profane.
> >It is simply unnesessary and detracts from the
> >credability of your views.
>
> Yes, I did need to look that word up.
> Did I really sound unfriendly ? I didn't mean to.
>
> I always thought you people got offended by me, because I don't much of the
> 'context' that words are placed in. Some words don't have a direct negative
> meaning, but are interpretered like that, because they are often used for
> that purpose. I will state once more that I really don't mean stuff
> unfriendly.
>
> But I am now starting to think, this is more a cultural difference. I am not
> used to people getting insulted by words this easily. Most people I talk to
> don't take things personally, nor get all kinds of emotions during a
> discussion. The goal in a discussion is not to get your right, but to get
> *it* right. And the ideas are what is being discussed. IMHO the ideas are
> the only one that could get insulted by me. I don't understand why this kind
> of message can upset any one. Ok, normally people hear your voice, but why
> expect the most negative?
>
> The truth is, most of the times, I reread my message and make it a little
> bit more political, a bit more friendly. I've learned that speaking to
> Americans requires that behaviour. And yes, lately that has skipped a couple
> of times. However, about the message you are refering to was added some
> friendly stuff.
>
> Still, I think, after a while, some stuff doesn't have to be said. If I mean
> something as a flame, trust me, there will be no doubt that that is not due
> to my lack of command of English. I mean, I'm just a 16-years old boy, how
> in the world can I get any of you upset anyway ?
>
> I think this is enough about that. You shouldn't have placed such a personal
> message on the list-serv anyway, but because you did, I'll take this chance
> to apologize to any one that did get insulted. Just get it right this time,
> I dont' mean it unfriendly, nor do I look down on any of you. Do I really
> need to put zillions of smileys every where to prove that ?
>
> Ralf