1. Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

Hi

Is it just me, or has the rapideuphoria site become really slow at downloading from the archive?

Cheers

Chris

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2. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

no it is slow

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3. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

I've noticed that even accessing the site is slow.

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ChrisB said...

Hi

Is it just me, or has the rapideuphoria site become really slow at downloading from the archive?

Cheers

Chris

It is not you, it is really slow long ago.

Regards


kinz

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5. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

When rapideuphoria is too slow, you can try PCAN - but do not blame me if it is even slower!

Files actually hosted on rapdieuphoria will still be a problem, unless copies of them get uploaded to PCAN (as per eg Win32lib7ForPhix)

Pete

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6. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

Looks like rapideuphoria.com is offline completely this morning.

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7. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

Hmm

Does anyone else have the archive?

Cheers

Chris

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irv said...

Looks like rapideuphoria.com is offline completely this morning.

FWIW, the good news, I suppose, is that their domain registration doesn't expire until 15 Aug 2018.

Domain Name: RAPIDEUPHORIA.COM 
Registry Domain ID: 9129499_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN 
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com 
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com 
Update Date: 2017-05-22T19:38:26Z 
Creation Date: 1999-08-15T20:28:23Z 
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-08-15T20:28:09Z 
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC 
Registrar IANA ID: 146 
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com 
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505 

-Greg

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9. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

Hi

Call to arms!

You can access the rapideuphoria website at https://web.archive.org/web/20180304051205/http://www.rapideuphoria.com/

You can also download the archive (at least the zip files), looks like at the moment, as usual.

I will try to download as much as possible, and put them somewhere else, not sure where yet, anyone any suggestions?

Cheers

Chris

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10. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

Hi Pete

Looks like your PCAN site was produced just in time. Don't suppose it will be able to host the entire RDS archive though. How hard would it be to change the links to somewhere else?

Cheers

Chris

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ChrisB said...

How hard would it be to change the links to somewhere else?

You can edit each one by hand, and upload individual files to PCAN, easily enough. Unfortunately there are something like 1500 rds-hosted entries.
Perhaps, looking at http://phix.x10.mx/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Catagory.Rds-hosted, individual volunteers could pick themselves (/and post here) a starting letter, to break that down a bit, and remove the [[!rds-hosted]] tag on each entry once some alternate link is in place.

You could (theoretically) also write a standard program to find/replace things, download the entire site, modify it, and re-upload it - which is pretty much how I got it up there in the first place.
Before leaping off either of those particular cliffs though, questions of speed, uptime, long term survival, mirror sites, propagating updates, admins/caretakers, etc should probably all be debated.

For instance, is anyone else interested in and capable of hosting a copy of the entire PCAN pmwiki (currently just less than 15MB when zipped), and maybe some ideas about synchronizing updates?

FYI, I have no problem if someone wants to take a snapshot, today, then run off and do their own completely independent thing with it, either.

Pete

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petelomax said...

Before leaping off either of those particular cliffs though, questions of speed, uptime, long term survival, mirror sites, propagating updates, admins/caretakers, etc should probably all be debated.

For instance, is anyone else interested in and capable of hosting a copy of the entire PCAN pmwiki (currently just less than 15MB when zipped), and maybe some ideas about synchronizing updates?

A very good point, Pete. I think we should host it here. Let's add an "Archive" tab at the top and adapt (and improve) the original archive function from RDS.

-Greg

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13. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

Just a note about the Wayback machine: don't count on it.

Thousand of website archives have disappeared from there, mostly because of "name squatting".

If we need anything from rapideuphoria, and Rob isn't going to renew it, better download it before the registration expires, because odds are, the Wayback archive will be gone soon after, to be replaced with ads or porn.

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14. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

Is there enough space / bandwidth on openeuphoria.org to host the archive?

Cheers

Chris

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15. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

Has anyone attempted to reach out to Rob about this? He may just be unaware that it's down.

-Greg

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ghaberek said...

Has anyone attempted to reach out to Rob about this? He may just be unaware that it's down.

It has gone down several times before, and not been back up until a few days later.
I assume that in the past godaddy (or whoever) rebooted one of their servers, and probably did so because someone on the same cluster other than Rob kicked up a fuss, or a cron job.
I also seriously doubt that Rob would deliberately just abandon it without at least offering it here. Then again, sinkholes happen...

Perhaps I should say that I started PCAN partly for similar fears, but more so that I could have a phix section, and update/comment/combine/regroup/rename/reject/hide entries, etc.
Having an alternative (or two), along with a bit of reorganization and cleanup, is no bad thing though, and obviously now is better than never.

Pete

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17. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

It's unfortunate we haven't made regular backups - or more specifically, complete downloads - in the past. There are a lot of packages listed on RDS which are no longer available, since they were off-site links, and those sites have disappeared.

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ChrisB said...

Is there enough space / bandwidth on openeuphoria.org to host the archive?

Greg might also consider hosting the archive at UsingEuphoria.com.

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euphoric said...
ChrisB said...

Is there enough space / bandwidth on openeuphoria.org to host the archive?

Greg might also consider hosting the archive at UsingEuphoria.com.

Well thanks for volunteering me! blink

I scraped the web archive pages and downloaded as much as I could. Then I dumped the content back to a single HTML page. Enjoy.

https://archive.usingeuphoria.com/

-Greg

P.S. The archive isn't entirely up to date and some stuff may be missing. Not much I can do about that right now.

P.P.S. The SSL certificate is currently self-signed. Sorry about that. AutoSSL should sort that out in a few hours. All is well.

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20. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

I found a bunch of files that were just "500 Internal Server Error". Re-downloading those now. Some are "400 Bad Request" and it doesn't seem like they can be retrieved right now.

-Greg

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ghaberek said...

Well thanks for volunteering me! blink

haha! It wasn't quite a volunteering... More like a suggestion of volunteering. tongue

ghaberek said...

I scraped the web archive pages and downloaded as much as I could. Then I dumped the content back to a single HTML page. Enjoy.

https://archive.usingeuphoria.com/

Dude, that's awesome!

We should be good until RapidEuphoria.com is back up and running.

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euphoric said...
ghaberek said...

Well thanks for volunteering me! blink

haha! It wasn't quite a volunteering... More like a suggestion of volunteering. tongue

ghaberek said...

I scraped the web archive pages and downloaded as much as I could. Then I dumped the content back to a single HTML page. Enjoy.

https://archive.usingeuphoria.com/

Dude, that's awesome!

We should be good until RapidEuphoria.com is back up and running.

What he said!

Cheers

Chris

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23. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

Hi Greg,

I scraped yours, hope you don't mind. Reason I didn't do it with archive.org is because of all the timeouts I was getting - just easier to do it by hand.

Cheers

Chris

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ChrisB said...

I scraped yours, hope you don't mind. Reason I didn't do it with archive.org is because of all the timeouts I was getting - just easier to do it by hand.

No I don't mind at all. My hosting service can take it just fine. I had about 610 MB downloaded over 1,965 files.

-Greg

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ChrisB said...
euphoric said...

Dude, that's awesome!

What he said!

Thanks guys. I've just updated the formatting, included count-per-category details, and added a link to download the database I made.

-Greg

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ghaberek said...

Thanks guys. I've just updated the formatting, included count-per-category details, and added a link to download the database I made.

@ghaberek Can you sort the files by date within each category, with latest first?

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euphoric said...

@ghaberek Can you sort the files by date within each category, with latest first?

It is done.

-Greg

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28. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

My word, we have some talent here.

Will you accept new additions?

Cheers

Chris

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29. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

ChrisB said...

My word, we have some talent here.

Will you accept new additions?

No I don't think so. I'd prefer this remain a static copy of the main archive.

I think I'd rather put my efforts toward updating our existing site so we can get off the RDS site for hosting uploads.

-Greg

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30. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

Ok.

Still looking for a new home for authors to upload their own creations without webmaster involvement then.

Cheers

Chris

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ChrisB said...

Ok.

Still looking for a new home for authors to upload their own creations without webmaster involvement then.

Cheers

Chris

How to do that while preventing malicious use is the problem, I guess. Does anyone know of a website that has solved that problem without a human in the chain somewhere?

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irv said...
ChrisB said...

Ok.

Still looking for a new home for authors to upload their own creations without webmaster involvement then.

Cheers

Chris

How to do that while preventing malicious use is the problem, I guess. Does anyone know of a website that has solved that problem without a human in the chain somewhere?

There's no human involved in posting to PCAN, you just need the password.

Pete

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33. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

Hi Pete

Assuming you would be willing to accept user contributions, do youhave a size limit, and an upload and download bandwidth limit?

Cheers

Chris

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34. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

ChrisB said...

Hi Pete

Assuming you would be willing to accept user contributions, do youhave a size limit, and an upload and download bandwidth limit?

Cheers

Chris

There is a fairly strictly enforced file size limit of 10MB - nothing to stop you uploading something bigger but they run a cron job that deletes all >10MB files every day.

Apparently the only bandwidth limit is 1M/s

I am currently using 335MB out of 512MB, but I can ask for that to be doubled (and later re-doubled), and I'm sure there are a few things I could delete.

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35. Re: Speed of download www.rapideuphoria.com

Hi

There would be a cost for that, and it would be unfair of the community to ask you to shoulder that alone. As far as file size goes, I think there were only 9 over that limit, which could be broken down into smaller chunks.

Cheers

Chris

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ChrisB said...

There would be a cost for that, and it would be unfair of the community to ask you to shoulder that alone.

No, it would be free, but I'm not guaranteed to get it. I've put in a request, we'll see.

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ghaberek said...
ChrisB said...

My word, we have some talent here.

Will you accept new additions?

No I don't think so. I'd prefer this remain a static copy of the main archive.

I think I'd rather put my efforts toward updating our existing site so we can get off the RDS site for hosting uploads.

-Greg

Any chance of moving this forum over to the new site as well? It would be nice to get the forum out of the hands of jimcbrown and euphoric.

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