1. Lemon Headz

How come I have gotten very few e-mails about my lemon headz game?
Has nobody played it? I don't see why not, It's a pretty cool game,
It's free, and I even released all the source code.

-Mark.

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2. Re: Lemon Headz

Mark wrote:

>How come I have gotten very few e-mails about my lemon headz game?

I took a look at your site, saw the screenshot (and the fact it came with
source), and was tempted to try it - until I saw the size. Any game that
doesn't fit on a floppy usually doesn't get downloaded. I think RDS had some
comment on their site about it taking 3+ hours to download, as well.

That's not meant to say that there are no great games greater than a Meg in
size, or you don't have a great game - it's just that download time (I have
a slow modem) and free disk space (what's that?) are factors.

-- David Cuny

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3. Re: Lemon Headz

I downloaded it and it took less then an hour but when I went to unzip it came
up with a checksum error.  It was probably my bungy harddisk that caused the
problem and haven't tried again yet.  I do intend to again sometime...

The screen shot does look very impressive!!!!

Ray Smith

>Mark wrote:
>
>>How come I have gotten very few e-mails about my lemon headz game?
>
>I took a look at your site, saw the screenshot (and the fact it came with
>source), and was tempted to try it - until I saw the size. Any game that
>doesn't fit on a floppy usually doesn't get downloaded. I think RDS had some
>comment on their site about it taking 3+ hours to download, as well.
>
>That's not meant to say that there are no great games greater than a Meg in
>size, or you don't have a great game - it's just that download time (I have
>a slow modem) and free disk space (what's that?) are factors.
>
>-- David Cuny
>

Ray Smith

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4. Re: Lemon Headz

I think it took me about 45 minutes or so with my 56K modem.. I didn't get
any checksum errors..

Greg H.

P.S. It rocks..

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From: Ray Smith <Ray.Smith at FUJITSU.COM.AU>
To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Date: Sunday, May 16, 1999 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: Lemon Headz


>I downloaded it and it took less then an hour but when I went to unzip it
came
>up with a checksum error.  It was probably my bungy harddisk that caused
the
>problem and haven't tried again yet.  I do intend to again sometime...
>
>The screen shot does look very impressive!!!!
>
>Ray Smith
>
>>Mark wrote:
>>
>>>How come I have gotten very few e-mails about my lemon headz game?
>>
>>I took a look at your site, saw the screenshot (and the fact it came with
>>source), and was tempted to try it - until I saw the size. Any game that
>>doesn't fit on a floppy usually doesn't get downloaded. I think RDS had
some
>>comment on their site about it taking 3+ hours to download, as well.
>>
>>That's not meant to say that there are no great games greater than a Meg
in
>>size, or you don't have a great game - it's just that download time (I
have
>>a slow modem) and free disk space (what's that?) are factors.
>>
>>-- David Cuny
>>
>
>Ray Smith
>
>____________________________________________________________________
>Local Government Software Development      Phone: +61 (0)2 63 620088
>Fujitsu Australia Limited (Orange)         Fax  : +61 (0)2 63 613505
>Email: ray.smith at fujitsu.com.au
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5. Re: Lemon Headz

>Mark wrote:
>>How come I have gotten very few e-mails about my lemon headz game?
>
>I took a look at your site, saw the screenshot (and the fact it came with
>source), and was tempted to try it - until I saw the size.
>-- David Cuny

Is it worth me making a version without any sounds for those people
who don't want to download such a big file? If I take out all the sounds
the zip file will probably be less than 1 Mb.

-Mark.

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6. Re: Lemon Headz

>Ok, I've made a few adjustments to some of the code in Lemon headz,
>and uploaded a No-Sound version.
>This should fix any problems that some people may have been having with
>sound blaster, and it also makes it small enough to download for those who
>think 5Mb is too much to D/L.
>


The 5meg version takes about 15 secs to download on a cable connection....
The music is great!   The game is great!

A couple of suggestions -- the strobed credits last a very long time (IMO)
and the "I AM THE CREATOR" thingy also lasts an equally excessively long
time (IMO).  Credits will be remembered if the game is fun, and making the
potential player wait, while your name/credits are repeatedlly presented is
likely to have a good proportion of people deciding to move over to the
nearest game machine or something (maybe the refrigerator).  Remember, the
goal of the player is to play...

I must also say that from my perspective it is nice to have a game that
doesn't involve violence -- with all the violence already in the world it
really boggles the mind to consider simulating more for recreational
enjoyment...

This game was quite enjoyable, and the sounds are definitely a MUST!

Thanks for a fun game!

Cheers!

--Warren

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7. Re: Lemon Headz

Mark
I just downloaded and tried Lemon Headz, without the sound.

I like it.

I agree with the comments about the startup - it's too long, and the stroby
stuff is pretty hard to watch.

I'd appreciate a bit of an intro screen that explained a bit of what's going
on, what the goals are, and what the controls are, etc.

I tried the "code" screen and got a nice tunnel graphic, but then the system
hung.

I don't like being called a quitter when I leave the game - who needs a game
that gives a lot of lip?

Bye
Martin

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8. Re: Lemon Headz

simulat wrote:

> Mark
> I just downloaded and tried Lemon Headz, without the sound.
>
> I like it.
>

I like it as well.  Not too original a concept, but a very good example of what
can be done with Euphoria.  Keep 'em coming =)

> I agree with the comments about the startup - it's too long, and the stroby
> stuff is pretty hard to watch.
>

Agreed.  Intro sequences are nice, so long as they aren't too long, or hard to
watch.  Mind you, you can press escape to skip through them.

> I'd appreciate a bit of an intro screen that explained a bit of what's going
> on, what the goals are, and what the controls are, etc.
>

Even a 'help' menu item with the above information would suffice.

> I tried the "code" screen and got a nice tunnel graphic, but then the system
> hung.
>

Mine didn't hang, but I don't like not having an option to say "oops, I didn't
mean to enter a code, let me back to the main screen".

> I don't like being called a quitter when I leave the game - who needs a game
> that gives a lot of lip?
>

Me either, unless it's a theme.  Why not something a little less blunt, like
"What are ya, a quitter? =)"

> Bye
> Martin

One more concern, and I'll leave you be =)
The transition fades are too long.  The game is relatively fast paced, so, to
keep up the flow of the game, 1 second fades would do better than the 4 or 5
second ones you have in there.

At any rate, I thank you for a great contribution to the Euphoria community, and
keep up the good work!

Greg Phillips

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9. Re: Lemon Headz

>How come I have gotten very few e-mails about my lemon headz game?

I don't have any thing against downloading the game - it only takes about 30
mins on my system.  But I've tried 4 times now, and every time the server has
reset, or the download stops about 1 min short.  I'm not sure why.
  Any way, perhaps I'll try again, and can give you something more then.

Isaacj

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10. Re: Lemon Headz

Mark wrote:

>How come I have gotten very few e-mails about my lemon headz game?
>Is it worth me making a version without any sounds for those people
>who don't want to download such a big file? If I take out all the >sounds
>the zip file will probably be less than 1 Mb.
>
>-Mark.

Thanks, I just down-loaded the soundless version.  I'll try it at home
tonight.  I couldn't have used the 5Mb version because it wouldn't fit on a
floppy.

Thanks again
Lewis Townsend


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11. Re: Lemon Headz

Thanks for everyone's replies about Lemon Headz.
I can't make better games if i don't know what's good/bad about the ones
i've already done.

There's been some problems with memory leaks causing the program to do
random things that it shouldn't occasionaly, the cod i have at the moment
seems to work fine on most computers, but if i try adding anything else it
goes crazy.. I think the problems may be caused by my modified SFX2.E I
don't think it's meant to be used the way i have it working..
How ever, i'm looking into making a new sound player, i'm getting a bunch of
info and stuff..

The intro screen can simply be skipped at any time by pressing space, enter
of Esc.

Sorry about the quitter thing, I just added that kinda at the last minute
cos there was a blank screen doing nothing..

If you want to find out how to play, then read the "readme.txt" file. it
should answer a few questions.

Hopefuly my next game will be a whole lot better than Lemon Headz.
I was kinda in a hurry to produce lemon headz.

-Mark.

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12. Re: Lemon Headz

Hey Mark, I finally got the game downloaded like I wanted - I got the
version with sound.  Anyway, I pretty much agree with what everone else said,
though I'm not as concerned about the intro since, as you say, we can simply
push a button and move on.  I thought the music was right in sinc with the
theme of the game.
  Down the road, you might consider adding some more options - sound volume,
screen brightness, etc., if you'd like to make this a serious, even saleable,
game.  But there was some progression of enemies and weapons from what I've
seen, those are also plus points.
  Well, that's all for now.   I mess with it some in a short while and add
anything else.
  Good luck,

Isaacj

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13. Re: Lemon Headz

>How come I have gotten very few e-mails about my lemon headz game?

5 Meg is a lot of download sad
I got your soundless version yesterday.  much less strain on my modemblink

I like the game, it's quite fun to play, however sad

As the game is a download I think you should have some sort of on line
tutorial. I personally started to play straight away, then after five mins
had to quit and read the readme documant to figure out what the object was.
 Boxed games from the shop's have the luxury of a booklet in which to
simple instructions, downloads have to have a readme. you cannot idley
browse a readme while installing the game/unpacking it.

The other point, and one of the reasons I had to stop playing to RTFM, was
the game has no feed back as to when I'm hitting the monsters. I sat there
banging away (at the keyboard) and the only thing obviously happening was
me dying (I am a lousy shot).

Minor point; the game intro is fine I found the esc key to skip it.
 However, on my video card,  at least, the fades seem very flickery.

Overall I do like the game, It has shown me what can be done with Euphoria.
 I will now try to down load the version with sound at the week end.

Keep up the msot exelant work.

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14. Re: Lemon Headz

On Mon, 17 May 1999, Lewis Townsend wrote:

] I just down-loaded the soundless version.  I'll try it at home tonight.
] I couldn't have used the 5Mb version because it wouldn't fit on a
] floppy.

My (reasonably buggy with long filenames :( ) file splitter SPLIT 0.99ß is
still available from my Euphoria site. I stopped development on it when I
started fiddling with EE.

If anyone has any trouble with it, I'll teach them the "workarounds" for
the bugs... :)

5M is about 3 floppiesworth...

--
Carl R White -- cyrek- at -bigfoot.com -- http://www.bigfoot.com/~cyrek
 aka Cyrek   --    No hyphens :)    --       Bigfoot URL Alias

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15. Re: Lemon Headz

Try it, and for those people who doesn=B4t have sound yet.

At 10:34 p.m. 16/05/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>Mark wrote:
>>>How come I have gotten very few e-mails about my lemon headz game?
>>
>>I took a look at your site, saw the screenshot (and the fact it came with
>>source), and was tempted to try it - until I saw the size.
>>-- David Cuny
>
>Is it worth me making a version without any sounds for those people
>who don't want to download such a big file? If I take out all the sounds
>the zip file will probably be less than 1 Mb.
>
>-Mark.
>

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16. Re: Lemon Headz

I tried to download your game, but my conection doesn=B4t works right, so I
can=B4t donwload it.
I=B4m still trying to download ICQ 99, as u can see, it=B4s a very bad=
 conection.

At 07:50 p.m. 16/05/99 -0400, you wrote:
>How come I have gotten very few e-mails about my lemon headz game?
>Has nobody played it? I don't see why not, It's a pretty cool game,
>It's free, and I even released all the source code.
>
>-Mark.
>

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17. Re: Lemon Headz

I downloaded the sound version after playing the no sound version.
It ROCKS.
For those not of the English-American slang compatibility...
It is very fast, quite addictive, the levels that I have played so far are
fun...my girlfriend even liked it, and thought it was fun to play.
...my only question is (since the little guy looks like a lime...)why didn't
you call it limonhedz?
l8tr
Monty



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From: Caballero Rojo <ebonvehi at CPSARG.COM>
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Date: Friday, May 21, 1999 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: Lemon Headz


Try it, and for those people who doesn´t have sound yet.

At 10:34 p.m. 16/05/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>Mark wrote:
>>>How come I have gotten very few e-mails about my lemon headz game?
>>
>>I took a look at your site, saw the screenshot (and the fact it came with
>>source), and was tempted to try it - until I saw the size.
>>-- David Cuny
>
>Is it worth me making a version without any sounds for those people
>who don't want to download such a big file? If I take out all the sounds
>the zip file will probably be less than 1 Mb.
>
>-Mark.
>

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18. Re: Lemon Headz

On Sat, 22 May 1999 08:00:32 -0700, M.B.King <boot_me at GEOCITIES.COM> wrote:

>I downloaded the sound version after playing the no sound version.
>It ROCKS.
>For those not of the English-American slang compatibility...
>It is very fast, quite addictive, the levels that I have played so far are
>fun...my girlfriend even liked it, and thought it was fun to play.
>...my only question is (since the little guy looks like a lime...)why
didn't
>you call it limonhedz?
>l8tr
>Monty
>

    I believe I can answer that one.  The first character is limehead.
The first game only had the one character, LemonHead.  The second
character in this game is LemonHead.  He is more powerful and is meant
to be played as the MAIN character.  The others have their benefits
but LemonHead is better overall.

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19. Re: Lemon Headz

Tried it out. Looks good, well put together.
I think you should tinker with the actual
main character control, perhaps add a bit
of inertia. It's not very fluid to manouver.
Seems to move quite fast (not that this is a
bad thing) Is it based on timed events? or
will it run at diffrent speeds on diffrent
machines?

All in all, an excellent demo, but I'm stuck
at level 2. I blow away a heap of walls, but
there dosn't seem to be anywhere to go. Am
I missing something?

Graeme.



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20. Re: Lemon Headz

On Sun, 23 May 1999 20:00:18 +1000, Graeme. <hmi at HYPERMAX.NET.AU> wrote:

>Seems to move quite fast (not that this is a
>bad thing) Is it based on timed events? or
>will it run at diffrent speeds on diffrent
>machines?

It's controlled to run at 25Fps Maximum, it will run slower if your computer
is slow, but it'll have to be slower than mine, a 486/66Mhz.

>All in all, an excellent demo, but I'm stuck
>at level 2. I blow away a heap of walls, but
>there dosn't seem to be anywhere to go. Am
>I missing something?

You kinda gotta make your way down, it's a bit tricky, i'll probably make
the paths a bit wider and some other changes to some levels and upload it to
my site in a few days when I upload my new euphoria sound system :) Which is
almost finished. (I'll just upload the level file. It's not too big. Might
even make a few more levels too.)

-Mark.

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21. Re: Lemon Headz

<SNIP>

>
> All in all, an excellent demo, but I'm stuck
> at level 2. I blow away a heap of walls, but
> there dosn't seem to be anywhere to go. Am
> I missing something?

<END SNIP>

What you do is this... Once you have blasted as far as it can go you got
to "backblast" with the shots hitting the ground and the other blocks.


Neil Harvey

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